Fake Spirituality Examples Mega-Thread

[Leo Gura]

Please find examples of fake spirituality. I am especially interested in New Age examples. But cult examples are also acceptable.

This is spirituality that is very conformist, performative, fantastical, conceptual, ungrounded, word salad, grifty, magical, corrupt, occult. Cringe spiritual BS, basically.

I want to see how bad it gets. How deep does self-deception and fantasy go? How deep does the New Age go?

Edited July 20 by Leo Gura

[Leo Gura]

 

[RendHeaven]

anything that claims "healing frequencies" or glorifies a certain hertz number (like 432hz) is utter putrid garbage and it's pure group think and lack of understanding and none of these people even know what a hertz is and have never studied musical tuning systems and don't understand the genius of equal temperament (commonly anchored to A = 440hz) which enables almost any frequency to "work" musically, making no frequency better or worse than any other

(they say that 432 is more "natural" and "better" and "healing" whereas the standard 440 is somehow bad and "unnatural," whatever the fuck that means)

this guy is a pretty key figure in pushing this dogma. he's very charismatic so young people will just blindly believe him

here's a few breakdowns of why these new age ideas don't hold. but it's less sexy to listen to a nerd giving a logical breakdown of academic music theory and history.

There's so many more examples of this kind of thinking but I'm not going to link all of it. You'll run into it even if you try to avoid it.

Basically, I urge you to simply distrust anything that advertises 432Hz. they know nothing at all and they're actually being aggressively ignorant and I find their stupidity offensive.

It's like someone who is illiterate claiming that the letter "D" is bad and negative because it's the devil's letter. But the letter "A" is good because it's the angel's letter. And then they buy this so thoroughly that they start transcribing all these texts by replacing the letter D with the letter A. This is the level of idiocy I am forced to endure whenever someone mentions 432.

Edit: NVM this shit is enraging I have to link it lmao

notice the braindead comments agreeing like sheep about the supposed magic of 432 while 440 is somehow a toxic government conspiracy. I bet none of these people can even play twinkle twinkle little star on the piano. They know nothing about pitch tuning. Fuck off.

Edited July 20 by RendHeaven
added more supporting details because y'all really need to feel just how retarded this shit is

[aurum]

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

 

[aurum]

Can't forget this guy:

 

[ExploringReality]

Leo I have a question. Ken Wilber emphasizes stages of spiritual intelligence or states of consciousness at specific rungs on a developmental ladder in spirituality. Someone can be tribal and magical but does it mean that it's fake spirituality? Like 11:11, 3:33, frequencies like this guy 

 

His videos have helped me over the years, he has an amazing personality and I met him at Venice Beach while skateboarding 😁. Just curious. No fluff 

[RendHeaven]

@ExploringReality "angel numbers" are garbage. offensive levels of narcissistic self importance and group think/dogma.

0 construct awareness. herculean mental gymnastics to ascribe importance and meaning and then pretending that your own overactive imagination is not involved - as if the repeating number ACTUALLY means something significant beyond your interpretation of it.

And of course, the disgusting duality between repeating numbers VS non-repeating numbers. as if the repeating numbers are somehow distinct and special and imbued with a "message" but non-repeating numbers are dull and forgettable and devoid of a "message." Not realizing that all numbers are projections of MIND

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, ExploringReality said:

His videos have helped me over the years,

Well, he probably says some valid things.

It's hard to be wrong 100% of the time.

But remember, spirituality is not really about helping you feel good. A blowjob might make you feel good. That doesn't make it a spiritual pursuit. Spirituality is about consciousness of the illusion of reality.

[aurum]

Kundalini Yoga is basically full of fake spirituality:

 

[RendHeaven]

10 minutes ago, aurum said:

Kundalini Yoga is basically full of fake spirituality:

 

what a trash way to get sex.

same with marc gafni, but abusing your guru status to sleep with your students is basically a self-admission of your own unattractiveness and unpopularity with women.

It wouldn't even occur to a man who is genuinely loved by women to concoct and maintain these elaborate victimization schemes.

Edited July 20 by RendHeaven

[Natasha Tori Maru]

37 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Well, he probably says some valid things.

It's hard to be wrong 100% of the time.

But remember, spirituality is not really about helping you feel good. A blowjob might make you feel good. That doesn't make it a spiritual pursuit. Spirituality is about consciousness of the illusion of reality.

Maybe there's some confusion between a state change and spirituality. Seems like most of these examples of fake spirituality have this common theme 

[Leo Gura]

@RendHeaven You have to also be real.

Most gurus sleep with their students because in the end who are they going to sleep with? They going to do pickup at a nightclub? No. People sleep with people they socialize with. This true of all humans.

Peter Ralston married his student. That doesn't make it abusive. It's just how he meets people. He doesn't go to a nightclub or log onto Tinder.

Obviously this is easily abused.

Edited July 20 by Leo Gura

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Maybe there's some confusion between a state change and spirituality. Seems like most of these examples of fake spirituality have this common theme 

State change can be legit spirituality.

The key is if reality is being understood or not. Are you gaining insight into reality? If so it is legit. If not is it a distraction.

If sticking your tongue into a wall socket gives you a genuine insight about existential reality it is legit spirituality.

(Don't do that.)

Edited July 20 by Leo Gura

[RendHeaven]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

who are they going to sleep with? They going to do pickup at a nightclub? No.

ah but you did!

because consciousness :]

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Peter Ralston married his student.

that's pretty spicy. 

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That doesn't make it abusive. It's just how he meets people.

Obviously this is easily abused.

in the vid above, it's clearly a sex extraction factory, in stark contrast to ralston who would rather sit in his broom closet to quote your wisdom

there is certainly a difference in intent to be mindful of

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Leo Gura Yes precisely.

Otherwise, you aren't increasing consciousness. You haven't become conscious of anything.

1 hour ago, aurum said:

Kundalini Yoga is basically full of fake spirituality:

 

This one is fucken feral. Those poor women. I am very grateful to have never had such a negative experience. I am the only women I know in my real life who hasn't experienced any sort of sexual assault. Thanks for the share

[Leo Gura]

25 minutes ago, RendHeaven said:

ah but you did!

because consciousness :]

Pickup is not particularly conscious. And it makes way more sense to date a girl who is into my work than a random girl at a nightclub.

The beauty of being a spiritual teacher is that your work attracts higher consciousness people than the general population.

Edited July 20 by Leo Gura

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Pretty sure most romantic relationships form from workplace relations - historically for sure.

[RendHeaven]

30 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Pickup is not particularly conscious. And it makes way more sense to date a girl who is into my work than a random girl at a nightclub.

The beauty of being a spiritual teacher is that your work attracts higher consciousness people than the general population.

come on bro I was trying to gas you up for NOT having sex with your students

but now you're like "actually, having sex with your students is situationally optimal! lets be objective!" 

classic leo 

[RendHeaven]

37 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I am the only women I know in my real life who hasn't experienced any sort of sexual assault.

it's the stiletto heels.

no man would dare