The most obvious proof that religion is fake?

[enchanted]

Christianity has had a 2000 year trial period and it still hasn't created a perfect Christian heaven on earth. Couldn't God come up with a better plan? Couldn't God come up with a message that instantly and decisively convinces and converts the listener? isnt God powerful enought to come up with a message that is immune to corruption and misinterpretation? Yet Christians have been creating a whole bunch of devilery in the past 2000 years "in the name of God".

Similarily if there is "One true God" why can't Christians agree with each other and create different sects? Muslims don't agree with each other either and they also claim there is "one true Allah".

[Someone here]

Yes but don't confuse religion with God himself/itself . As Leo have said the only true thing in religion Is that God exists . Also what do you mean religion is "fake "? There is a field called theology .they study the logic behind the belief system about god .

But at the end yeah obviously Christianity is a bunch of bullshit. Open the bible in genesis it says God made light and darkness before creating the sun or stars. bullshit in the very first page . 

authors of Bible and quan had retarded scientific understanding of the universe. 

 

[Aaron p]

Religion isn't fake, just highly corrupted. Religion is exactly correct a lot of the time.

1 John 4:8 "...God is love."

Mormons believe "as man is, god once was, as god is, man can become." 

And loads of other stuff I cba quoting. It would be better if your question was "the most obvious proof that religion is highly corrupted and a harmful misapplication of spiritual truths?"

The best I can offer is the following:

 

Now I will admit, some healings are real and quite cool. Like my dad for instance was healed instantly of crippling arthritis and is now a 60 year old body builder and my mind was healed (mostly by more normal spiritual practises that we do here).

But you can clearly see the problems in the videos...it's a complete misapplication of spirituality. It's so far separated from the central truths of the real religion it's just insane. 

You've also got the slightly more obvious religious harms like the explosive situations that arise from islam. Pun intended. And sooo many things. But your not going to convince them, as Leo says, the mind is capable of creating a rational explanation to explain anything and changing the entire mental map around one central idea that is held as sacred. 

I'm surprised I was able to break myself out of my religion. I was entrenched in it. Fucked up my mind so badly. But it has nice aspects. But ultimately...don't go near it unless your prepared to engage in constant mindfulness that your probably being indoctrinated every second you spend in a church.

[enchanted]

4 hours ago, Aaron p said:

Religion isn't fake, just highly corrupted. 

Couldn't an "all-powerful" God create an uncorruptible religion? Because all religions can be corrupted is proof that they are created by humans. Yes there's some truth to the religions but they weren't created by a God in the sky.

Edited Friday at 12:33 AM by enchanted

[enchanted]

9 hours ago, Someone here said:

Yes but don't confuse religion with God himself/itself . 

Don't worry I'm not. God is here right now every moment no need  for a church or a sacred ancient text. 

9 hours ago, Someone here said:

 Also what do you mean religion is "fake "? 

I mean religion is bullshit. And my post is my best proof of that. 

Edited Friday at 12:31 AM by enchanted

[aurum]

The most obvious proof is that it's based on faith.

No one seriously interesting in truth-seeking would accept that.

[Aaron p]

1 hour ago, enchanted said:

Couldn't an "all-powerful" God create an uncorruptible religion? Because all religions can be corrupted is proof that they are created by humans. Yes there's some truth to the religions but they weren't created by a God in the sky.

It's a working progress homie. It also depends on what you mean when you say religion. Generally speaking religion is dumb. It prioritises ritual, repetition and belief. 

I mean I think gods giving it a good go right here in this community. Is it possible that the creation of this very community is God creating the pure religion. However, in common parlance, religion is a shit term. Spirituality is better, more aligned with the holy spirit proper. Far more pure here. This website and community is a gift from god literally

[saif2]

There is a lot of comforts in religion, that go against the rigor of wanting to understand reality. So someone religious instead of facing an issue head on and think strategically to overcome it, he or she would go to prayer instead so that it can be fixed on its own.

A lot of religious people even if they come from esoteric backgrounds that uses meditation techniques and spiritual practices, they rely on a lot of assumptions, which makes their practice more corrupt and comfortable.   

[samijiben]

Obviously Christianity is fake but why bother about the delusion of other people?...

 which is the only place that icky religion can exist when you firmly establish yourself as outside of it?

That is like critiquing the manner in which the homeless people on the side of the street dwell in the poverty of God! Or getting angry at the imaginary heads of the corruption and devious ways of the people that lie and butcher God as if it were a pizzapi3. 

 

 

[samijiben]

1 hour ago, Aaron p said:

It's a working progress homie. It also depends on what you mean when you say religion. Generally speaking religion is dumb. It prioritises ritual, repetition and belief. 

I mean I think gods giving it a good go right here in this community. Is it possible that the creation of this very community is God creating the pure religion. However, in common parlance, religion is a shit term. Spirituality is better, more aligned with the holy spirit proper. Far more pure here. This website and community is a gift from god literally

Couldn't have said it better myself!

[enchanted]

11 hours ago, aurum said:

The most obvious proof is that it's based on faith.

No one seriously interesting in truth-seeking would accept that.

Yes good point too 

[enchanted]

8 hours ago, samijiben said:

Obviously Christianity is fake but why bother about the delusion of other people?...

 

Isn't contemplating the world around us what we do here?