Every Moment/Dhikr

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, Sugarcoat said:

What does the mind do beyond thinking? 

The mind is the absolute in one of it's expressions, same than a stone or the universe. 

[kbone]

10 minutes ago, Kuba Powiertowski said:

@James123 ah... "no toilets..., damnation without relief" 🤣🤣🤣.

I strongly belive that God is The Great Joker. Otherwise he would be just a dick. Maybe powerful, maybe omnipotent, but a dick.

Old testament style! 

But yeah, if you believe in god as omnipotence, at some point in the line of reasoning, you may have to admit that it's capable of wielding a knife in some abattoir, or maybe even while staring you down in some late night rendezvous in your building's elevator.

Mind you, if that's the case, god can be pretty funny, too. 

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[Sugarcoat]

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

The mind is the absolute in one of it's expressions, same than a stone or the universe. 

Ok I agree with you it’s really cool and amazing I just thought if you perceived it as a tool beyond just thinking. Like if you knew something about it I didn’t know

[kbone]

4 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The mind is the absolute in one of it's expressions, same than a stone or the universe. 

🎯

[James123]

13 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Are you Muslim?

No. Just the words of La ilahe illallah perfectly matches and scronize with the breath for me.

11 minutes ago, kbone said:

What you continue to point to is understood. The mind was engaged to write this post and it will have to be in order to read/understand it, while THAT to which you have been pointing remains unblemished by any of it. The Peace that Passeth All Understanding is forever available prior to what mind maketh of any situation.

Just notice if/when the mind is engaged, you're wading out into the river.

Is this post beautiful, or do you prefer my silence?

When mind becomes quite, you don't think and write, You write with the moment. Because, You merge with it, become one with it.

10 minutes ago, Kuba Powiertowski said:

@James123 ah... "no toilets..., damnation without relief" 🤣🤣🤣.

I strongly belive that God is The Great Joker. Otherwise he would be just a dick. Maybe powerful, maybe omnipotent, but a dick.

Lolllllll. If you can call the god as name, I call the biggest lover. Most of people explain gods with beliefs or ideology. But love, doesn't belong to anything. 😊 But, whatever makes you happy, you can call it 😊 

7 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

What does the mind do beyond thinking? 

Dies.

 

12 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I don't suffer, I can open myself to the absolute every single day if I take some time at night, but the absolute is the absolute, and the relative is the relative, and in it I want develop myself as much as its possible, and the mind, that mechanism that makes relationships, is magic, it's the best tool ever, is the reality in its glorious expression. Denying it is so stupid, like wanting to be a monkey when you are almost a god that can touch the divinity. 

you must vanish to be absolute. Only way is the killing the mind.

[Breakingthewall]

3 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Ok I agree with you it’s really cool and amazing I just thought if you perceived it as a tool beyond just thinking. Like if you knew something about it I didn’t know

I am the mind, who is talking with you is the mind, that's talking with you as a mind. The mind is a relational node that arises from the growing complexity of life and that at a given moment separates from the vital flow tied to matter, to the gene, purely instinctive, and gives birth to a new dimension of existence that has the capacity to expand without limit, transcend its genetic conditioning and connect with its total nature and with other minds and be one with them. And very possibly to move in the interdimensional flow of reality visiting other possibilities and dimensions 

[kbone]

10 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

What does the mind do beyond thinking? 

The word mind is synonymous with thinking.

[Breakingthewall]

6 minutes ago, James123 said:

you must vanish to be absolute. Only way is the killing the mind.

The mind quiet is a mind without articulated though, not a no mind. It's a different state of the mind, inherently the same mind, but can be more opaque because there is a lot of emotional honey or emotional bile that obscures it. If you transcend that, the mind is transparent in stillness and movement.

Mastery lies in creating a conceptual framework that is transparent yet precise and alive, not in performing a lobotomy.

[kbone]

4 minutes ago, James123 said:

 

When mind becomes quite, you don't think and write, You write with the moment. Because, You merge with it, become one with it.

C'mon, you can get more radical than that. The mind functions as a bifurcator. Just use it wisely.

[kbone]

9 minutes ago, James123 said:

you must vanish to be absolute. Only way is the killing the mind.

Aaah man, back to the statistic on suicides by firearms. 

[kbone]

6 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

 

Mastery lies in creating a conceptual framework 

Nah. 

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[Breakingthewall]

Just now, kbone said:

Nah. 

Of course yes. We are humans, our potential is limitless, as our nature. 

[kbone]

9 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Of course yes. We are humans, our potential is limitless, as our nature. 

You've limited your self to a conceptual framework. Sounds like a collection bars for building a prison in progress.

True nature is/was/will always be FREE. Find and settle into the Peace That Passeth All Understanding (TPTPAU) and you will understand where I am coming from. Yesterday, you went  further and further unconscious of it, running headlong into the river of logic and doubt. If you understand what TPTPAU means at all, you'd start there. In my book, you did not exhibit that you do understand it, much less stay rooted in it. Jussayin...

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[Breakingthewall]

13 minutes ago, kbone said:

You've limited your self to a conceptual framework. Sounds like a collection bars for building a prison in progress.

I can open myself to the absolute at will, It was extremely difficult at first. I explained it 200 times, if you want I can explain again. I'd like that everyone could do it . But then I'm in the relative reality being a mind and I use the relations as clean as I can even you see it as a prison, it's an structure from the freedom . Maybe some could see it and take advantage of it, who knows 

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[kbone]

12 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I can open myself to the absolute at will, It was extremely difficult at first. I explained it 200 times, if you want I can explain again. I'd like that everyone could do it . But then I'm in the relative reality with a mind and I use it even you see it as a prison, it's an structure from the freedom . 

Great to hear you can open to it at will. Maybe your mind just got sidetracked... dunno. You don't need to explain. And yes, it would be nice if everyone could easily just notice that TPTPAU is immediately available, but typically they run headlong into the thought structure of their making (with a lot of unconscious attachments to needing to be right, win an argument, and so on and so forth), and try find shelter in their structure. Stepping into the mind ( bifurcating functional tool ) is the relative reality, and it is impermanent, along with the rest of the appearing universe, including the "structure from freedom" (?).

Edited July 14 by kbone

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, kbone said:

Great to hear you can open to it at will. Maybe your mind just got sidetracked... dunno. You don't need to explain. And yes, it would be nice if everyone could easily just notice that TPTPAU is immediately available, but typically they run headlong into the thought structure of their making (with a lot of unconscious attachments to needing to be right, win an argument, and so on and so forth), and find shelter in their structure. Stepping into the mind ( bifurcating functional tool ) is the relative reality, and it is impermanent, along with the rest of the appearing universe, including the "structure from freedom" (?).

Everything you say carries an aggressive emotional charge. I'm perceptive enough not to fall for the games of a vulnerable narcissist. I play in the first division, so if you think you're going to drag me into your emotional mud, I'm sorry, that won't be the case. If you want to engage in a constructive conversation, I'd be delighted.

[James123]

31 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

If you transcend that, the mind is transparent in stillness and movement.

That's it. Effortlessness. 💯 

30 minutes ago, kbone said:

C'mon, you can get more radical than that. The mind functions as a bifurcator. Just use it wisely.

Mind is for past or future, not for Now.

28 minutes ago, kbone said:

Aaah man, back to the statistic on suicides by firearms. 

Suicide is running away, therefore still belongs to survival. One must burn while alive, and Love rebirth You as the Moment.

[Sugarcoat]

35 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I am the mind, who is talking with you is the mind, that's talking with you as a mind. 

When you say “I am the mind” do you mean “I” as the self?

39 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

 The mind is a relational node that arises from the growing complexity of life and that at a given moment separates from the vital flow tied to matter, to the gene, purely instinctive, and gives birth to a new dimension of existence that has the capacity to expand without limit, transcend its genetic conditioning and connect with its total nature and with other minds and be one with them. 

So you mean us having minds is what makes it possible for us to reach enlightenment?

[Sugarcoat]

18 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I can open myself to the absolute at will, It was extremely difficult at first.

If you can do that why can’t you stay there, if you want?

[kbone]

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

Everything you say carries an aggressive emotional charge. I'm perceptive enough not to fall for the games of a vulnerable narcissist. I play in the first division, so if you think you're going to drag me into your emotional mud, I'm sorry, that won't be the case. If you want to engage in a constructive conversation, I'd be delighted.

Interesting.