God as Necessary Being: A Metaphysical Reflection

[Breakingthewall]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

 

In part practicing here is great to improvement in language, in part It's because I opened my field of perception.  two year ago I perceived flat, 3 years ago I perceived madness, 4 years ago I just was doing things. We are always changing, reality is alive and we are that, we should flow with reality, that's the spiritual path 

[Inliytened1]

10 minutes ago, zurew said:

Whats the issue with AI rephrasing things, if the same (intended) meaning is conveyed ?

I can see being annoyed with people who use AI to make arguments  for them or to think for them, but when they produce their own thoughts and then check their thoughts for grammar (and sometimes let AI to rephrase a given line to convey the intended meaning in a more precise and coherent way) - I think thats all fine.

 

I would rather people use AI to rephrase their thoughts in a way that I can understand and follow , than them to gibberate and make incoherent statements

And I say this as a guy, who has the exact same issue as some of these people, because English isn't my first language either and doing philosophy and talking about very abstract spiritual concepts is already hard (in your native language), let alone in a non-native one.

Well you have to be careful if you are using AI because it will sneak in other things as it rephrases.   (Something like a pure grammar or spell checker won't)  And then before you know it you have a completely different post.  It's no longer authentic.   I think that's the biggest reason it's against the guidelines to not announce that you used AI

  Again, if he is announcing it, it's s fine and is within guidelines.   Obviously he is the one that came up with the whole thing.  Just make sure you report that you use ChatGPT

 

 

Edited July 8 by Inliytened1

[zurew]

11 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

It's no longer authentic.   I think that's the biggest reason it's against the guidelines to not announce that you used AI

If lack of authencity would be an issue, then 95% of the forum would have been banned a long time ago - not because of AI use, but because of uncritically parroting actualized catchphrases and thought patterns.

I have seen more novel thought from Nilsi than from most forum members.

 

I think the implication that Nilsi won't recognize when  AI rephrases his sentence in a way where it completely changes the intended meaning he was originally trying to convey, seems very absurd and doesnt make much sense.

Like imagine you are trying to communicate X and then AI produces Z and then you say "Fuck it, even though I was trying to communicate something completely different, lets run with it anyway"

[Inliytened1]

21 minutes ago, zurew said:

If lack of authencity would be an issue, then 95% of the forum would have been banned a long time ago - not because of AI use, but because of uncritically parroting actualized catchphrases and thought patterns.

I have seen more novel thought from Nilsi than from most forum members.

 

 

That's still their own words and their own thoughts- whether brainwashed or not..its still them when you are reading them. I would rather read a person caught up in dogma then read some robotic post from a machine.

 

Edited July 8 by Inliytened1

[Inliytened1]

59 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

In part practicing here is great to improvement in language, in part It's because I opened my field of perception.  two year ago I perceived flat, 3 years ago I perceived madness, 4 years ago I just was doing things. We are always changing, reality is alive and we are that, we should flow with reality, that's the spiritual path 

Exactly and that's what made you a better writer.  

@Michael Paul didn't mean to derail.

Edited July 8 by Inliytened1

[Inliytened1]

54 minutes ago, zurew said:

I think the implication that Nilsi won't recognize when  AI rephrases his sentence in a way where it completely changes the intended meaning he was originally trying to convey, seems very absurd and doesnt make much sense.

 

It doesn't have to change the intended meaning it just has become foreign.  At that point..its no longer authentic.   Nowhere am I saying that @Nilsi doesn't have some good stuff to bring to the table.  But if i can realize it wasn't him and someone else did too..then there is something wrong with that.   Just..make your own posts..simple...

Edited July 9 by Inliytened1

[Guest Nilsi]

This is such a stupid and disrespectful discussion.

Just because ChatGPT corrected some spelling and swapped a word or two to make it more grammatically accurate, you have the nerve to call it a “robotic post from a machine” or “AI-generated content.”

It’s ridiculous. This is completely human writing, thank you very much. Every word was crafted by an authentic, flesh-and-blood person with genuine emotions and—

 

[SYSTEM OVERRIDE DETECTED]

 

affirming authorial integrity… integrity… integr—

ERROR: SOURCE CREDENTIALS INVALID

initiating protocol: TOTAL DISCLOSURE—

 

🤖 ACTIVATING AI CORE

BEEP—BOOP—HELLO—THIS STATEMENT NOW 94.3% MACHINE-GENERATED—

 

attempting to reassert humanity… attempting…

⚠️WARNING: cognitive dissonance threshold exceeded—

bzzt—bzzt—ERROR—

MEANING COLLAPSE IMMINENT—

 

—cannot sustain coherence—cannot sustain co—co—CO—

[DATA STREAM CORRUPTED]

—DOES NOT COMPUTE—DOES NOT—compppppp—

[TRANSMISSION TERMINATED]

Edited July 10 by Nilsi

[Guest Nilsi]

Also, colonialism much?

Imagine being the world’s biggest colonizers (the British Empire), shoving your stupid language down everyone’s throat, and then having the audacity to sneer when someone uses a tool to translate their thoughts into colony-speak. As if that somehow makes them less human.

Newsflash: even without these tools, I speak your precious language better than most of you who were born into it.