Love

[James123]

When love arrives intellect departs.

[Princess Arabia]

IOW, shut up. This is why you felt the urge to say something. Love wants to express itself through intellect and other means. Love cannot be silenced. Even silence itself is an expression of love. It's all expressions of love. The departure of intellect is also love. It's all love. Can't escape love. It's all there is. So don't knock intellect, it's love's expression.

[James123]

On 6/9/2025 at 5:23 PM, Princess Arabia said:

IOW, shut up. This is why you felt the urge to say something. Love wants to express itself through intellect and other means. Love cannot be silenced. Even silence itself is an expression of love. It's all expressions of love. The departure of intellect is also love. It's all love. Can't escape love. It's all there is. So don't knock intellect, it's love's expression.

Not all expression is love. Love is no matter what the situation is being in love, feeling it, welcoming it.

[Breakingthewall]

Then love excludes intellect?

[James123]

12 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Then love excludes intellect?

Real intellect arrives, when mind vanishes. 

Then, one sees, understands and feels for the first time.

[Breakingthewall]

2 minutes ago, James123 said:

Real intellect arrives, when mind vanishes. 

Then, one sees, understands and feels for the first time.

There is not problem with the mind if it is aligned, the problem with the mind is when it's structure is wrong. Wrong means limited. 

[James123]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

There is not problem with the mind if it is aligned, the problem with the mind is when it's structure is wrong. Wrong means limited. 

Where is the so called mind?

Edited June 26 by James123

[Breakingthewall]

33 minutes ago, James123 said:

Where is the so called mind?

Mind is not a place, is the fact of structured logical reasoning 

[James123]

4 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

 is the fact of structured logical reasoning 

For continuing it's own purpose, which is the survival, therefore limitation.

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, James123 said:

For continuing it's own purpose, which is the survival, therefore limitation.

No, it can also be used for other things, for example to commit suicide

[Breakingthewall]

An open conceptual framework without any logical flaws is essential. Even in deep meditation, your conceptual framework continues to operate in the background. If it has errors or limitations, it will limit you.

[James123]

6 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

No, it can also be used for other things, for example to commit suicide

The purpose of suicide is still for mind's safety for not to suffer. Because, there is something worst then surviving, which is suffering, therefore, it is still surviving.

6 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

An open conceptual framework without any logical flaws is essential. Even in deep meditation, your conceptual framework continues to operate in the background. If it has errors or limitations, it will limit you.

Logic includes, names and labels right or wrong, flaw or flawless. Therefore, logic is an limitation itself. 

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, James123 said:

The purpose of suicide is still for mind's safety for not to suffer. Because, there is something worst then surviving, which is suffering, therefore, it is still surviving.

Logic includes, names and labels right or wrong, flaw or flawless. Therefore, logic is an limitation itself. 

You said: when loves arrives the intellect depart. 

That's a logical construction that comes from the frame of your energetic structure. Even if you are in deep meditation, the energetic structure of your psyche remains, and that structure emits a form that appears as: when loves arrives the intellect depart. 

All logical constructs that emerge from that structure are manifestations of that structure. So, if that structure is limited, you will be limited. if your logical structure is open, you have the possibility of real openess, just because your logical structure is not closing. It changes your energetic structure, the way of what reality is expressing itself through you

[James123]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

You said: when loves arrives the intellect depart. 

Yes, because so called mind vanishes. 

Then Real intellect opens up, which is the recognition of You are the Moment. No thoughts, beliefs, evaluation, understanding, etc... can reach. All must be dropped. 

[James123]

It is untouchable, undisturbable. 

[Breakingthewall]

19 minutes ago, James123 said:

Yes, because so called mind vanishes. 

Then Real intellect opens up, which is the recognition of You are the Moment. No thoughts, beliefs, evaluation, understanding, etc... can reach. All must be dropped. 

You can go further. You can perceive with absolute clarity the inherent vitality of this moment, and its unfathomable depth. And you can also realize that this moment or perspective of reality is being created by the totality of the limitless perspectives of reality, and that absolutely all of them are interconnected. You can perceive its vitality, its depth, its limitlessness, how they are moving, fluctuating, flowing in a perfect way

[James123]

8 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

You can go further. You can perceive with absolute clarity the inherent vitality of this moment, and its unfathomable depth. And you can also realize that this moment or perspective of reality is being created by the totality of the limitless perspectives of reality, and that absolutely all of them are interconnected. You can perceive its vitality, its depth, its limitlessness, how they are moving, fluctuating, flowing in a perfect way

No thoughts can enter.

[Breakingthewall]

14 minutes ago, James123 said:

No thoughts can enter.

Percepctions are not thoughts. It's something that you feel, perceive, are concious of.

 

[Javfly33]

Seems you guys are just arguing "reality is this way" and the other is saying "no, is this other way". 

The classic vibrational scale is very accurate, depending on how you vibrate, that´s how Reality is. Reality is not exactly one way or the other, but how you (a part of Reality which is also the whole) can vibrate/be.
 

How you Be depends on many things, what you eat, your thought process, state of the body system...etc. This is why Yogic sciences approaches spirituality from lots of angles just not stilling your mind, there is understanding that a lot of factors come into play and all must be taken care of if one wants to explore and live in the Peak of their possibilities. 

[James123]

@Breakingthewall @Javfly33 

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