Meaning as additive to being, and how to restore being

[Carl-Richard]

If you get heavily invested in meaning, it can be tough when things don't go your way (and things will routinely not go your way in reality, because you're ultimately not in control). But if you remember that whatever happens, you will be ok, i.e. you remember "being", then meaning can not take anything away from you, only add something to you. And you will be stronger as a consequence and more likely to experience meaning.

And naturally, the more being you experience, the more these things compound on themselves. One thing that saps being is being low on energy, doing unhealthy things, being unhealthy, being chronically stressed. Your hippocampus literally shrinks when you're chronically stressed, which further makes it harder to tackle the stress (as the hippocampus is involved in tackling stress).

And when you're chronically stressed, it's harder to do exercises and be aware enough to embody being, all of which compounds in the wrong direction. Sometimes, you just need to rest and heal to rebuild your hippocampus, and from this foundation, you can then start doing things for increasing being again, which again increases meaning.

Edited Sunday at 05:59 AM by Carl-Richard

[Carl-Richard]

Also, my now new signature Intrinsic joy = being x meaning ²  makes pseudo-mathematical sense. See if you can figure it out.

Edited Sunday at 06:01 AM by Carl-Richard

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Intrinsic Joy = Being x Meaning ²

It is missing the Lorentz factor!! (γ or, lower case gamma) - this element describes the effect of 'Intrinsic Joy' as it approaches equality with 'Meaning'', where meaning is a universal, natural constant.

Let:                                                                    γ = 1 / √(1 - (Intrinsic Joy)²/(Meaning)²)

Therefore:                                                        Intrinsic Joy = y x Being x Meaning ²

As Intrinsic Joy approaches equality with Meaning, y increases significantly, due to the action of Lorentz factor. This means the total Intrinsic Joy required to increase Being also increases dramatically. In this limit, as Intrinsic Joy approaches equality with Meaning, an infinite amount of Intrinsic Joy would be required to reach ultimate Meaning. This means it is impossible for any Intrinsic Joy with Being to exceed or equal Meaning.

In other words, Being forever increases as it approaches Meaning, as Intrinsic Joy is the sum of where it begun, and where it is going.

Intrinsic Joy and Being equivalency!

Note: I just wanted to eat dinner, Carl. But I felt a great compulsion of intrinsic joy in providing meaning in this moment of pure being <3

Edited Sunday at 08:59 AM by Natasha Tori Maru

[Breakingthewall]

Meaning is relative. If you want to put yourself in an absolute perspective, you simply have to eliminate meaning. Without meaning, the focus opens; with meaning, it closes.

Meaning is obviously real from a relative perspective. If you break your leg, it means you won't be able to walk. The idea isn't to cancel meaning completely, but to be able to cancel it at will for a while, opening yourself to the unlimited. Meaning = Limits

 

[Breakingthewall]

6 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Also, my now new signature Intrinsic joy = being x meaning ²  makes pseudo-mathematical sense. See if you can figure it out.

I'd say that it's more: intrinsic joy=absence of meaning . Relative joy=positive meaning. 

[gettoefl]

40 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Meaning is relative. If you want to put yourself in an absolute perspective, you simply have to eliminate meaning. Without meaning, the focus opens; with meaning, it closes.

Meaning is obviously real from a relative perspective. If you break your leg, it means you won't be able to walk. The idea isn't to cancel meaning completely, but to be able to cancel it at will for a while, opening yourself to the unlimited. Meaning = Limits

 

Yes. The limited mind is an unstoppable meaning making machine: I know what this means. I suggest as a pointer, the only meaning to ponder usefully is, what is this for? Do I seek to keep all this alive or do I want to break free. When I ask what does this table mean, that is the question I contemplate. From this perspective everything has one meaning. I put this here so I could see its nothingness giving me yet another shot at seeing everythingness. 

[Breakingthewall]

28 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

The limited mind is an unstoppable meaning making machine

Yes but those meanings are real, the point is understanding and aligning them. Remove meaning is necessary for meditation, meaning is necessary for human life, and we are humans 

[gettoefl]

22 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Yes but those meanings are real, the point is understanding and aligning them. Remove meaning is necessary for meditation, meaning is necessary for human life, and we are humans 

There is nothing worthwhile or helpful or enduringly fun here. Dead ends are par for the course. Truth holds for a season then crumbles and returns one to square one. With that said, once I connect to the real, I become its exemplar magnifique and thereon in it's one hell of a ride no pun intended.

[Carl-Richard]

18 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Intrinsic Joy = Being x Meaning ²

It is missing the Lorentz factor!! (γ or, lower case gamma) - this element describes the effect of 'Intrinsic Joy' as it approaches equality with 'Meaning'', where meaning is a universal, natural constant.

Let:                                                                    γ = 1 / √(1 - (Intrinsic Joy)²/(Meaning)²)

Therefore:                                                        Intrinsic Joy = y x Being x Meaning ²

As Intrinsic Joy approaches equality with Meaning, y increases significantly, due to the action of Lorentz factor. This means the total Intrinsic Joy required to increase Being also increases dramatically. In this limit, as Intrinsic Joy approaches equality with Meaning, an infinite amount of Intrinsic Joy would be required to reach ultimate Meaning. This means it is impossible for any Intrinsic Joy with Being to exceed or equal Meaning.

In other words, Being forever increases as it approaches Meaning, as Intrinsic Joy is the sum of where it begun, and where it is going.

Intrinsic Joy and Being equivalency!

Note: I just wanted to eat dinner, Carl. But I felt a great compulsion of intrinsic joy in providing meaning in this moment of pure being <3

I was expecting something like "if meaning is negative, it cancels out because (-x)^2 = x". But ok 😅 I remember the Lorentz factor: in physics class, we had a Kahoot one time, and I named myself "Lorentz" for the memes, and then I forgot that one guy in this class was actually called "Lorentz", so that was kinda embarrassing.

Edited Monday at 03:38 AM by Carl-Richard

[Natasha Tori Maru]

2 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

I was expecting something like "if meaning is negative, it cancels out because (-x)^2 = x". But ok 😅 I remember the Lorentz factor: in physics class, we had a Kahoot one time, and I named myself "Lorentz" for the memes, and then I forgot that one guy in this class was actually called "Lorentz", so that was kinda embarrassing.

I just substituted in for your equation and tried to make sense of the implications

I too have very fond memories of physics - special relativity at university was really great!

Pretty sure I flunked general if I recall properly. Applying counter intuitive concepts tripped me up and I haven't revisited it.