Quitting serious spirtuality until the time is right.

[Peo]

After tripping on shrooms at 3 grams 3 times now I have realized that awakening is not all fun and easy as I assumed by watching Leo's videos. On Psychedelics is when you realize just how serious spirituality is, how dangerous it is. Honestly I am kinda afraid of spirituality and consciousness. I have realized that I must do some work on myself to be able to prepare myself for serious awakening/radical states of consciousness. 

This is why I have decided to go back to doing easy spiritual practices that won't freak me the shit out like 30 min meditation everyday, contemplation and practice open mindedness. I am done with serious spirituality. It is not something I should do at a young age. 

This is why I will follow Leo’s advice: mastering survival. I believe that in order to be able to surrender fully to awakening i have to do the following for the next 10-20 years: 

Master survival:

• Financial freedom
• Satisfy my sexual needs
• 100% healthy diet
• Working out cardio and strength
• Increase baseline happiness
• High self-discipline

 

Personal development techniques:

• emotional mastery
• Body awareness
• Letting go
• Contemplation
• Openmindedness
• Go through karma
• Shadow work
• Develop deep love for existence

 

Reach the top of “Human psychology development theories”:

• The 9 Stages Of Ego Development
• Spiral dynamics 
• maslow's hierarchy of needs

 

Once I reach the top of these, mastered survival and get older like maybe in my 30s or 40s I will start doing serious spirituality. I am not sure when I will do psychedelics again, maybe 5-10 years. I will follow my intuition, I will know when the time is right. 

Spirituality is for me the end game. I believe spirituality is a long term investment for decades. 

Anyway this is my game plan to one day reach god awakening. I just hope I wont forget it when i get older. 

[Hojo]

Thats good but keep in mind that it won't get easier if you've completed something

[PurpleTree]

I feel you boi.

I‘m also kind of over psychedelics at the moment. They are exhausting and scary imo.

But i just really enjoy nonduality and disentangling from beliefs right now.

[krazzer]

If you feel like taking a break, then definitely give yourself that space. Let it be for a while, there's nothing wrong with stepping back.

It’s also wise to stay grounded before diving in again. But don’t overdo it. The things you mentioned are big, and it’s easy to get completely absorbed in them. When the time feels right, you can return to the spiritual path. There's no need to plan too far ahead, life will guide you.

And honestly, what is “serious spirituality,” anyway? You make it sound so heavy. It’s not supposed to be a burden. All that’s really needed is to realize what you truly are, and then stay with that.

Of course, it’s not something you just snap your fingers and do. But you also don’t need to sit in a cave for 40 years, or take any substances, to get there either. The truth is simple. It’s always here. We just overlook it.

[Peo]

2 hours ago, krazzer said:

what is “serious spirituality,” anyway?

When I mean serious spirituality I mean using hard-core pshychedelics like 5 Meo DMT, DMT and other pshychedelics in general. Long meditation retreat for 30 days or more. Several hours of self inquiry. kira yoga.

Where you invest almost your entire day and the rest of my life pursuing awakening.

This is why i also want a lot of money to be able to focus on spirtuality 100% without working needing to work. 

[krazzer]

Got it. To me that sounds very serious indeed.

Me personally, I barely touched psychedelics, it just didn't seem to be my thing. I have done a 5-day silent retreat once. Visited a few satsangs here and there. But mostly I just meditated daily. Sometimes I did an hour, but mostly only like 15 minutes a day. And I've missed a lot of days. And I have periods where I would watch a lot of satsangs online. This was all over a period of 10 years.

In that time I also had a wife, 2 children, and was building a business and doing other kinds of self development. Just to say, you don't need to drop it while doing other things simultaneously.

But of course, everyone's journey is completely different. Find a path that you feel the most comfortable with, but not too comfortable, if you know what I mean.