The mirroir effect : Why you only speak to yourself.

[theleelajoker]

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

It's quite the opposite at times. It can show the clarity and depth one has of understanding the point being relayed. Leo's videos are 3hrs long. Do you say he lacks the clarity to express his message that's why he does it in 3hrs. Provably not.

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My hypothesis is that you have a incomplete understanding of communication. My arguments are:

• Look at how the top consultancy companies in the world operate. "Cutting through complexity" is sth you hear a lot. I was lucky to work with e.g. BCG and McKinsey Teams for quite a while and experience it first hand + my own experience in consulting, teaching and advisory service.
• Look at how the top speakers in the world operate. Alan Watts comes to mind. Incredible background knowledge, incredible clarity, incredible storytelling, incredible structure,  incredibly on point with his words. He can talk for hours and still there is almost no superfluous information in his talks.
• Look at how the best teachers in the world operate. Go back to your school or university times and remenber how good teachers communciate their points
• The key is in my experience to KNOW ALL THE BACKGROUND INFO but to communicate only the relevant, only the essence, tailored to your audience. It's not to spit out everything, that creates confusion with both, the one communicating and the one listening
• Clarity and depth is shown by NOT BLABBERING OUT EVERY LITTLE DETAIL AS INTELLECTUAL MASTURBATION. As much as necessary, as little as possible is IMO the best guideline
• Clarity about your intention is crucial. Most of times most people just start expressing without clarity. Me too, btw! It's a process every time again: 1) Picking up information / getting aware of it 2) processing it 3) integrating it 4) communicating it clearly with words and actions
• Leo is not a good example. I watched some of his video but was soon turned off. My POV: 
  • First, his appearance is full of arrogance, personal bias and harmful believe systems. There are e.g. people in these forum I consider far more developed than him
  • Second, a lot of information in his videos is only provided to paint a specific, superior picture of himself. 
  • Third, there is a other information you could leave off without loosing the message
  • There are indeed incredible value nuggets of information, I learned precious things but I neither like his style nor bis personality. I respect him as he is but I don't like listening to him and I don't see him as role model re communication

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Some posts are long, some are short. We want everything to fit into our little boxes. Move on if a post is too long and go get your short fix. This is Infinity where diversity is the spice of life. Short enough for you. Point taken? 

• Please continue telling me how I am, what I want and what I should do. That shows immense maturity and definitely strengthens the argumentative power of your position. It also is the exact way for you that leads to growth and development
• It also shows me that you have read my previous post in which I stated that I was to lazy to read everything, was not interested in understanding it and do not appreciate the diverstiy provided by other people. Great job!

Much Love! 

Edited Saturday at 03:37 PM by theleelajoker

[Hojo]

I knew it you can tell its human because it is all over the place if you look. Its not structured like chat gpt would structure it. Its just well written.

I see the castration fear post and it was well written to I like your writing style.

I don't normally read long posts but I read yours cause its smart.

Edited Saturday at 05:20 PM by Hojo

[Hojo]

@theleelajoker it is smart. Like a manual. Should a manual be the shortest it can be? No it should be long enough to explain everything. He not making a point he's telling you a fact.

Edited Saturday at 05:24 PM by Hojo

[Schizophonia]

@Hojo Thank you.

 

By talking about "castration fear, i will maybe create another topic about this to actualize my views.

It will be simpler that this topic. 

[Schizophonia]

4 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

@SchizophoniaIt's fine by me and i don't care about your errors. I'm just showing how your own obvious writings are filled with errors for you to proofread with such accuracy all on your own. I make errors too, so this is not a criticism or judgement, just a pointer. I'll leave it here.

But I could make mistakes on purpose so that people think it's me.

Edited Saturday at 06:16 PM by Schizophonia

[Yimpa]

7 hours ago, theleelajoker said:

F*** yourself.

[theleelajoker]

3 hours ago, Hojo said:

@theleelajoker it is smart. Like a manual. Should a manual be the shortest it can be? No it should be long enough to explain everything. He not making a point he's telling you a fact.

• Manuals are as long as necessary, as short and clear as possible. I created more than enough of them professionally and this guideline has been the most valuable teaching I received re this 
• The point of a manual is to make best use of the item explained, not to explain how it works. Go to your car, fridge or whatever and check the manual. Does it explain how fuel is produced and burned in the car for energy? No, it says "put that kind of fuel into that hole"
• Telling someone a fact in a way that fails to convey the message is pointless. Which brings me again to intention: What do I want to achieve? I write for me or for others? What's the goal?

Edited Saturday at 08:58 PM by theleelajoker