What is real?

[Razard86]

9 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

My unconscious biases are not real? 🤔

Only you can determine that. Each part of God determines real.

[Carl-Richard]

14 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

Only you can determine that. Each part of God determines real.

Can a person ever be deluded about what is real?

[Davino]

1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

Can a person ever be deluded about what is real?

His delusions are indeed real

[Razard86]

2 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Can a person ever be deluded about what is real?

At the highest level it is not real, because a creation compared to its creator is not real. Anything you create in comparison to you is not real because you have the ability to wipe it from existence but it doesn't have the ability to wipe you out. So to God the life of a human is illusionary, a dream. But from the perspective of the character it is real, the character can be wiped away, the character gets hungry, experiences fatigue, physical pain, emotional pain, so for the character it is real.

That's why if you notice all of God's human perspectives are on here debating what is real and what is unreal and the truth is it is both depending on which state you are in. The lowest perspective it is real, the highest perspective it is not real, and the highest truth it is both because its the only thing that exists and it cannot be annihilated and that which is unchanging and eternal is literally the standard of Real. 

So God is the only thing that is real, but its powers....are completely imaginary, because it is imaginary it has no limits, and thus can create the perfect limits to express that even though its imaginary, a chain saw to the leg is when SHIT GETS REAL!!!! Only God can take a chain saw to the leg and be not harmed, but then the entire dream would be meaningless.

Pain is the birth of meaning. If I handed someone's life story to you as a memory and you couldn't feel their struggle and pain those memories would be fleeting phantoms that appeared and disappeared without anyone to care. So yes we can be deluded if we ever become foolish enough to think there is a difference between real and imaginary....they are both the same thing with two different extreme expressions that INTERDEFINE each other.

The Non-Dualist will shit his pants if you take a Chain Saw to their leg, and the Materialist will shit their pants if they discover it is all imaginary, and God alone....would only experience Infinite Love.

[Inliytened1]

21 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

At the highest level it is not real,

Actually at the Absolute level it is real, because it exists.   Even delusion is real.  There is nothing unreal because non-existence doesn't exist...lol..it does exist as a concept so I guess on that sense even non-existence is also real - but as a concept. 

Edited April 17 by Inliytened1

[Carl-Richard]

I prefer summing up everything that has been said here in one phrase: "absolute vs. relative". But maybe I'll fall in love with talking about it all day again some day.

[Inliytened1]

13 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

I prefer summing up everything that has been said here in one phrase: "absolute vs. relative". But maybe I'll fall in love with talking about it all day again some day.

You love that duality 😀 but you're absolutely right.  

[Razard86]

48 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Actually at the Absolute level it is real, because it exists.   Even delusion is real.  There is nothing unreal because non-existence doesn't exist...lol..it does exist as a concept so I guess on that sense even non-existence is also real - but as a concept. 

I said highest perspective, a perspective is a bias. If you notice I said highest truth it is both.