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@Pilgrim Exactly, and in addition to this, getting the permission to take patients via their insurance is really hard and you have to have great luck for that. That is, after you spend so much time and money for the certificate. Still a good point though, but as far as I researched, so many people are going to healers etc. for the aforementioned reasons. Thank you for the feedback my friend

@kieranperez Hey man I'm in the same boat. Unfortunately, for the most part @winterknightis right. I started my Psychology studies this year and I'm already doubting if I really wanna go this path towards therapy. It would take at least 7-8 more years and a lot of money which I don't have. So one thing I know, which will probably be my way to go, is to become a healer. You can get a license as a "healer for psychotherapy" or just a "healer" (which is more medically based), the training costs around 2.000-4.000 €. You are allowed to do anything a therapist can except prescribing medicine and referring patients to hospitals. Training takes 3 years. You don't need the training to take the test. But you will need it. This is the situation in Germany and as far as I know Switzerland. What I do think is, not everyone should be a therapist. Also, I want to take time to learn psychological and holistic healing. I'm 23 now and don't see myself practicing this before 30. I want to undergo a classical hospital training (like a nurse or something), while saving up money for the healer training. This gives me time to heal myself and dive into all the theory I want to incorporate. You can add anything, holotropic breathing, meditation, yoga etc. After having the license you can also get extra certificates. The training in the hospital will introduce me to working with patients already and seeing how can one contribute to healing just with your presence and love. Also it will give me the opportunity to work there while building up the healer thing. Just wanted to share my plan since it's quite fresh. I'm not sure if this healer thing is available and legal in America.

@brugluiz Hey would you share what you mean by a "dynamic"?

Try Terence Mallick's movies. My favorites so far, highly transformative: - The Tree of Life - The New World - Knight of Cups

Adyashanti, Matt Kahn and/or A.H. Almaas

!!! I can't stress this enough. This is exactly what I had to find out yesterday. My meditation went quite smooth for several weeks, the last few days though there was constant movement in my mind, I couldn't let go, I was so irritated by that. Yesterday I started focusing on the heart again. This cleared soooo much, since then my meditations became clearer again. It really felt like being stuck up there in the head, kind of an endless game. With the mind alone letting go is not possible.

@Salvijus So much about reading what was said. I don't really want to continue this. You seem to just wanting to be right. Congratulations, you are right and I seem to be schizophrenic. <3

Well, I have the feeling you are not really reading what is being said here and projecting your own views and problems onto my situation. That's totally okay but this way there is no discussion possible. Actually READ what I wrote and see how your response doesn't really fit. Strangely enough though, in my process it DOES lead to loving others, more than ever before. Could it be that you just misinterpret something here or that you're trying to prove a point you strongly hold? Again, this has nothing to do with feeling better and making the guilt go away. I've been very clear with that. I still thank you for your time and thoughts and I will think about it. Have a beautiful day

@Salvijus In my experience, it's the other way around. It's counterintuitive, I also was a little scared in the beginning to love myself fully. But this is the point. It really much depends on what love means to you and where it comes from. One example: I fuck up in some way, on top of that I'm starting to bath myself in guilt, the spiral goes down. I remember that I can love myself, not to push away the negative feelings but to embrace them, just as I embrace every positive feeling. Loving myself eventually opens up my heart, I am more aligned with truth and I don't try to change my emotional or mental state. It's not about feeling better, it's about seeing the lack of love in the moment I'm being in a self-destructive behaviour. Negativity can only be met with love. In yourself just as much as in everyone and everythign else. There is no other way! If you don't love everything the same, including yourself, you don't know yet what love is. This is not selfish at all. Seeing yourself as an enemy and not being lovable (including by yourself) is a big trap, watch out for that. Also, whenever I love myself, it is not that I exclusively love my ego, my true Self, my body etc. There are moments when each of those need seperate attention of course. You recognize the truth of love though when it expands out to everything in your perception and everyone around you. It's the opposite of selfishness. I love you

@Healingheart This might help you.

Love is THE answer. But not the love we think we know. And yes, self-love is super important. It is not loving your ego, it is loving yourself when you see who/what "you" really are. It is being the love that IS everything which you are. I see myself and many other individuals transform immensely from this insight and its practical results. It is a question of nuance, but love is what is intrinsic in truth. As soon as you see that, your heart will open up. I'm not here to argue with you. I'm interested to hear why you think it is not an answer to anything? What else is the answer to suffering, anger, sadness, fear? Is it nothingness? Is it more suffering? I'm meaning that very practically as in the OP's question.

@hikmatshiraliyev That's normal in the beginning, it can even happen occasionally again way down the road. This stress is exactly what can help you dive deep into the nature of it, the nature of this constant "doing" and "wanting to go somewhere". Let it be. Don't resist the stress, don't resist the resistance. Let it unfold without actively encouraging or discouraging it. It will show you what it's made of, just give it permission and patience. I think you might have heard it here and there: Intense suffering is part of the journey. It's a very helpful tool. Get in the mindset of expecting it to happen so you don't get thrown off by it but also as I said: don't TRY to create it. When it's there, fine: work with it. When it's not there, also fine.

I actually researched a lot on multivitamins and although I think it's crucial to rely mostly on natural vitamins which still are bound to their fiber, I take a low dose of the highest quality multi I could find. This way I just make sure not to miss anything. It uses the best absorbable forms of the vitamins, and you don't need any b12, VitD, VitA etc., it's all included. It's the "2per day" by "Life Extension", I think they are from the Netherlands and only ship from their website. I only take one so one package lasts me 3 months. But disclaimer: I have no idea of possible negative cross effects, so maybe it's not the best idea to take them. Just found many sources I trust to recommend them.

Go for it then

@Serotoninluv

Practice is important but the mindset with which you go into this whole thing is much more important. That you want enlightenment so badly is not a bad thing. Keep practicing. But also as mentioned before, read a lot! Read so you understand what is really at play here and your psychological approach will adapt. Take your time. Don't rush it, there is plenty of time And keep that motivation, it will bring you very far. At one point you will have to let go of the understanding and the desire but you will know when. Until then it is required. Get the booklist, everything you need to know is in there. When your mind gets too much, don't forget to feel, to breathe and to be alive in your body.

I think there are more than one thread on this topic already? Search for it, there is a lot we collected already I got the feeling there are so many repeated questions, which is not to blame anyone, but the forum seems kind of overflowed and confusing lately.

@Wisebaxter Excited to hear from your journey I'm also feeling really warmhearted right now towards this comminity, especially in this thread. You guys are lovely

@Durka_Durka Hey have you done the therapeutic sessions since you read the book? I started reading it today and I'm actually really excited to go deep into it. As he said it takes a looong time for changes, reminded me of meditation. "This here is no world of instant gratification." I like his approach and as far as I heard and can guess this is quite powerful! Would be amazing to hear experiences if anyone here has any?

Thank you !

@Matt8800 Not sure if you were pointing to my advice Matt, but when he/she him/her self notices the problematic consequences then why should one encourage to continue? I'm not saying it's bad or wrong, that's another story. From experience and to help in the specific question, seeing what was found out by OP, I just think there is no reason to continue doing it right now. Maybe later. But there are way more important things to do before thinking about this. I respect your opinion of course, I just don't think it's very helpful.

Yes, I had this experience. It's an addictive substance after all, so really forget about "I would get this out of the substance". It will always backfire at you. ALWAYS. How new are you to all this? Maybe go watch some of Leo's videos where he talks about practices and implement those. It can take a while but integrating these things will get you to love: - Physical health (nutrition + exercise) - Being in touch with your emotions and your body (many things influence this, try shadow work and emotional mastery, Leo has amazing books on his booklist) - Meditation Start there, be consistent and see how life develops. There are many other things you can do, but start with the basics. Don't give in to the thoughts that any substance or external stimulus will give you what you're looking for. Namaste

I can confirm this After longer periods of healthy habits, when having a climax of insights or a mystical experience (with psychedelics for example), the next day I sometimes find myself sliding back into old destructive habits. It's so sneaky and tricky.

@Shin Nice, respect bro I also went up to 2 hours since yesterday. Keep it up <3

@Hellspeed That's actually great advice! I experiment with something like this at the moment. First thing I do is drinking a tea and reading. Then Wim Hof/Fire Breath to boost myself with energy and (more importantly) release those knots in the head. After that I found something very very powerful: A little like in Osho's dynamic meditation, I just do any movements, facial expressions and sounds that I feel like doing. It is super important to not hold yourself back here, be animalistic, express any energy and tendency that wants to be expressed. I also incorporate dancing as expressively as I feel it. That's maybe 10 minutes. It really makes a huge difference for me. I also recommend warming up / mobilizing every morning. If you're a morning exerciser as me, also exercise right after the warm up. Getting your blood pumping is often all you need to get out of your head Also meditation of course, I recommend a commitment to do that every (!!!) morning.