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@flowboy No worries! I put that first message as a way to get the more 'spiritual' perspectives on this, rather than just us guys. I am proud of myself, but I'm pissed off. with myself. for not acting on it sooner, now I'm 25, I feel myself starting to mature mentally and seeing all this stage orange stuff as quite low. Maybe I was getting waaaaay too ahead of myself? But now I've got the information and I'm making progress I will be doing it actively for as long as it takes, then I will concentrate more on the 'spiritual' side of life. Because that's what I'm really interested in... Also, what's your view on Red Pill? Is it really as toxic as Leo says it is???

@flowboy I was only joking, don't take it seriously! I am actively swiping on tinder and have 2 dates from it, one of which bailed on me today, but it was worth the effort. And I have been talking to some PUAs near me (London) and we will be going out as soon! I have been doing small things like more eye contact with people and talking to people more than just small talk (which I am getting sick of) I am genuinely excited. I also have this girl messaging me a lot but she has a ton of baggage, and possibly BPD, but she wants to meet tomorrow night for a date and I will happily go, knowing in the back of my head that I am not taking any of this seriously... Thank you for all the advice guys, I have been meaning to give everyone an update so here it is!

Did the Buddha do pickup? Did Gandhi do pickup? Did Jesus do pickup?

@JohnnyBravo That sounds tempting, but I kinda want that adventurer life without having to manipulate girls to have sex with me. I know it can be done. Maybe travelling? I suppose travelling would force me out of my comfort zone because I'm in a different country on my own, which would lead me to force myself to talk to people. I dunno. This whole topic of pickup just frustrates me. (maybe that's why I should pursue it, because it pisses me off)

@Moreira So by learning social dynamics, you mean the red pill? I'm always confused about the red pill. Leo says its toxic, when I look at it, it seems completely logical. Whats the right answer there???

@JohnnyBravo I understand. As shallow and pathetic as it sounds, I just want lots of sex. I've been putting it off for too long now, and I know I have to do it. I will date and do pickup. I've found a potential wingman near me, and I will be hitting the streets of London. I want to do daytime too, I will also be doing nights out but I wont be drinking alcohol, I feel that drinking lowers my vibe and of others around me, in fact I fucking hate the stuff. I need to get it out of my horny needy system. Thank you once again.

@Shin I've been thinking about that too. Escorts too maybe? How low can I go? lol Fuck sake!

@Arcangelo @flowboy Fucking hell Both of you are right. I literally crave sex pretty much all of the time, I just can't see at this moment in time how pickup is a good idea. I know Leo has said to have enough sex so we don't crave it anymore and we can go into higher consciousness, it has just taken me by surprise how important that shit actually is. Maybe I'm being too much of a 'nice guy'. Maybe I should try and be more 'alpha' lol. My mind complicates things so much I never know what to believe each day. I'm constantly learning things all the time. And most of it surprises me to the point of anxiety. I just hate the idea of using and controlling people, especially girls. I know how emotional they are.

@Arcangelo I know, they are the comments I am talking about. I just need to know if its a good idea to 'skip stage orange' and go straight to 'stage green' I think I have the answers now, I will certainly talk to girls and flirt with them here and there, but I wont be doing pickup. Its too creepy for me, there's something about it that I don't like. I mean, I'm actually looking for a girlfriend that I can share deep connections with, not dating and shagging 200 women before a certain year. I just needed to know if I was alone in thinking this way...

@Michael569 really great comment, thank you.

@JohnnyBravo great post. You summed it all up! i am pretty good socially, I sometimes get a bit of social anxiety now and again but this is with difficult people, most people are fine to talk to and so I do talk to them. But yeah, there is so much bullshit on the internet, and I’ve fallen for the trap many times, most recently being Leo’s recent comments on this forum. I know he’s right in most of what he says, but the pickup stuff is just bullshit. I hope he knows it’s bad. It’s his video on YouTube that speaks more sense than his comments on here. thank you everyone for the replies, I needed to ask people before I went mad. It’s like, I needed to confirm I wasn’t skipping over something Leo has said is important.

@JohnnyBravo thank you! this is exactly what I have been thinking, these pickup guys have some deep issues that they need solving in other ways, like counselling or meditation maybe. It just isn’t for me, I can’t do that shit to people. And I’m happy enough with my looks and personality that I don’t need to validate it by chasing after vagina. Dont get me wrong, I love women. I think they can be a lot stronger than men sometimes, and I’m not going to manipulate them for my own silly needy needs. There’s too much suffering involved.

I meant so they have a positive attitude about life, and are generally friendly people. They are the ones you want as friends. Obviously they aren't going to be happy all the time, but neither will you. I honestly think having good friends leads to us having a better life. But they are hard to find!

Of course you need friends, life can be miserable without people to do fun things with. Just make sure they are positive people and are into the same stuff you're into. And beware of fake friends, you need to learn to screen them out of your life.

I get lost in personal development too, and have sometimes rejected my friends when I should have gone and hung out with them. And it's come back to bite me! I've had to let go of some of the friends that wanted to have fun ALL the time. I've recently quit partying and late nights and I feel incredible, and I think everyone can gain from quitting drugs and alcohol. Well done for not losing touch with your fun side!

I've found that the only way to get rid of. social anxiety is to literally get out there and talk to random strangers, or to get. a job where it forces you to talk to people. For me also, I had to quit alcohol. Alcohol had a HUGE effect on my social anxiety, I stopped drinking and my need for social connection increased, so now I can socialise without many problems. In fact, I actually get energy from talking to people. Not talking to people drains my energy and I would just want to hide away indoors all day.

Lifestyle minimalism is waaaaaaaay more important than getting rid of items in your house. Watch Leo's video on it

I don't blame her... Who gets married these days?

Obviously you don't have to have kids at all, but most women look like they love raising children! You could just have animals instead, plenty of people just have pets. Children are a full time job for some women, and other women focus on their careers or whatever. Ask the women with children around you in real life and you might get a better vision than asking random people on this forum.

For a woman, having children is probably the most fulfilling duty to have, your greatest duty on earth will be achieved. But it's a personal choice, plenty of women choose not to have children. The only advice I would give is make sure that the person you have them with shares your values, otherwise it could end up bad for everyone involved. And don't listen to the pressure other people put on you, be wise and make your own mind up!

I think everyone needs to let go of the labels 'alpha, beta, sigma' All of this is extremely limiting, with no room for actual growth. Just be yourself without any labels. All this 'alpha' bullshit is like being back in the school playground. Time to grow up and let go of the silly immature labels we use to keep ourselves and each other in a box.

The only way to break free from social anxiety is to go out and talk to lots of people, random people, friends, family, whoever. Deep down I think everyone can do this, and it's only when you do this that you can be cured from it. I don't think Leo is going to do a video on this as it's too simple to explain. Just get out there and socialise! force yourself through the pain of it!

Having lots of free time is NOT a bad thing at all. Most people's problems occur from not having enough free time at all. You just need a couple of hours a day to meditate/do yoga/exercise/journal.

There are videos about Red Pill and MGTOW everywhere on YouTube, and I have seen Leo comment about how bad it is on here a few times. I'd love for Leo to do a video about why it is bad, because some Red Pill stuff does sound logical to me. Hope he gets to see this!

'30 Ways Society Fucks You in the Ass' and 'Lifestyle Minimalism' They have completely changed my world view and whilst at the start they made me angry, after some reflection and. contemplation they have given me peace of mind. There are so many videos of Leo's that I love, but these two are just incredible. Thank you Leo!