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I used to watch him all the time because at the time I thought he was speaking some forms of truth. Now he's turned all 'Red Pill and MGTOW' I've given up watching him, because its all bullshit. He's turned himself into an ideologue... Thats what happens when people like him get internet famous!

@kindayellow So you want to be a life coach like everyone else? Good luck with that one! Theres already too many YouTube life coaches out there. It's incredibly difficult to escape wage slavery, and although I work 55 hours a week I do love the job. Also, Leo just says it how it is in that video, he doesn't say HOW to do it, otherwise we'd all be financially independent...

I’ve been working at least 55 hours a week for the past 2 years and at first it wasn’t a problem, but now I feel miserable regularly. like Leo has said, work will never make you happy. It’s only in my spare time that I can enjoy life and do what I want. But then again, what else are you going to do? It’s a matter of survival. I’m constantly trying to work smarter, not harder.

@bejapuskas obviously factory farming is bad. That’s why we should only buy grass fed pasture raised animal products. What ya going to do though? Stop the big factory farms? Come on...

Truth is, we can’t digest plants. So that’s why you probably felt like shite. Humans have lived on animal products since the dawn of time, so keep going. All this vegan bullshit is literally just a trend and an incredibly good business idea. Vegetarianism on the other hand is fine because you’re still eating animal products. Also, never take supplements - there’s no evidence that they actually work. Humans haven’t needed them before, we don’t need them now. “Let food be thy medicine”

@JohnnyBravo Well said! He is trying too hard to be someone that doesn't exist. He claims to have little ego but the type of YouTube videos he puts out says the opposite.

You don't have to pay for any PUA courses, all the information you need is free on youtube. You also have to realise that mostly these PUA guys are just businesses. Don't be fooled by thinking they care about you asa human being lol. I would recommend 'James Tusk' on YouTube. But to hire him for a week you have to pay £4,000.00. And for a WhatsApp add you have to pay him £500.00 So let that be a warning to ya

I like him, but like people have said, he's making money off of stage orange men. Men that lack self esteem. Its a great business if you really think about it... But he's into the red pill and MGTOW stuff too, so take that stuff with a pinch of salt

I’ve found that just being financially stable so that you aren’t begging on the streets does the trick. Sex for me is a bit of a strange one because I feel satisfied even when I don’t have it. The basic needs are pretty easy to obtain if you aren’t completely dysfunctional. Like others have said, you need to pursue success further to fully grasp how pathetic it is. I’m doing that right now, chasing money until I can feel it in my bones how ridiculous it is. I feel empty inside but it’s what it takes to realise there is more out there than stage orange craziness. Lol.

@Leo Gura I keep getting obsessed with you Leo, but then I realise that I have to live my own life and how unhealthy me trying to be someone else is.

Don't mistake getting married as the way to fix all of your problems, it wont. In fact, it might make them worse... What even IS marriage anyways? I never understand. A government contract maybe? ...

Ok, here goes... Leo’s recent posts about Pickup has got me really confused. He suggests to do pickup, but has a whole video about why pickup is terrible for spirituality and self actualisation. I can see straight through the pickup theory, it’s all about manipulation of women to get your own selfish needs met. I understand why men do this, because obviously having sex is awesome. But I can’t help but feel bad for these girls and feel awful about myself. It’s not in my DNA to manipulate people, in fact I fucking hate it. I can’t do it without feeling bad. I was sucked into looking at pickup theory because yeah, deep down I do want to get laid. However, I do want to connect with a girl properly without manipulating or controlling her. I don’t want to be selfish with this stuff. I want to like a girl for who she actually is rather than liking her for her vagina. And I understand the whole ‘looking better and being more attractive and being more masculine’, but can’t I do this without pickup? So my question is, can I skip this part of my life??? Or do I have to experience this before moving on to stage green? Can I just skip stage orange? To be honest I don’t know what stage I’m even in at the moment. Can anyone help?

But you want to work smarter, not harder!

@flowboy No worries man, the internet is a confusing place. I went on a date last night, and I have another with the same girl tonight, and she had more red flags than I thought was possible. So I know for sure it wont come to anything serious, I will continue to date and do pickup and not focus on one girl, but loads of them. It also turns out that my social anxiety with her was non-existent. There wasn't a single awkward moment, she just hinted at me to clean up the mess of her previous relationship. (huge red flag) And thank you for your view on the red pill. Rollo Tomassi seems to make complete sense, I his first 2 books and to me they have helped massively. But like you said, its the bitterness towards women that I don't like either, it seems most of these red pill/MGTOW guys are just damaged emotionally and take pleasure being a arsehole to women. Which isn't good at all. I will still be journalling, self enquiring, relaxing and all that good stuff too on the side, but focus on the stage orange areas of my life too, because I was. getting waaaaaaaaay too ahead of myself and I can see its limitations.

@flowboy No worries! I put that first message as a way to get the more 'spiritual' perspectives on this, rather than just us guys. I am proud of myself, but I'm pissed off. with myself. for not acting on it sooner, now I'm 25, I feel myself starting to mature mentally and seeing all this stage orange stuff as quite low. Maybe I was getting waaaaay too ahead of myself? But now I've got the information and I'm making progress I will be doing it actively for as long as it takes, then I will concentrate more on the 'spiritual' side of life. Because that's what I'm really interested in... Also, what's your view on Red Pill? Is it really as toxic as Leo says it is???

@flowboy I was only joking, don't take it seriously! I am actively swiping on tinder and have 2 dates from it, one of which bailed on me today, but it was worth the effort. And I have been talking to some PUAs near me (London) and we will be going out as soon! I have been doing small things like more eye contact with people and talking to people more than just small talk (which I am getting sick of) I am genuinely excited. I also have this girl messaging me a lot but she has a ton of baggage, and possibly BPD, but she wants to meet tomorrow night for a date and I will happily go, knowing in the back of my head that I am not taking any of this seriously... Thank you for all the advice guys, I have been meaning to give everyone an update so here it is!

Did the Buddha do pickup? Did Gandhi do pickup? Did Jesus do pickup?

@JohnnyBravo That sounds tempting, but I kinda want that adventurer life without having to manipulate girls to have sex with me. I know it can be done. Maybe travelling? I suppose travelling would force me out of my comfort zone because I'm in a different country on my own, which would lead me to force myself to talk to people. I dunno. This whole topic of pickup just frustrates me. (maybe that's why I should pursue it, because it pisses me off)

@Moreira So by learning social dynamics, you mean the red pill? I'm always confused about the red pill. Leo says its toxic, when I look at it, it seems completely logical. Whats the right answer there???

@JohnnyBravo I understand. As shallow and pathetic as it sounds, I just want lots of sex. I've been putting it off for too long now, and I know I have to do it. I will date and do pickup. I've found a potential wingman near me, and I will be hitting the streets of London. I want to do daytime too, I will also be doing nights out but I wont be drinking alcohol, I feel that drinking lowers my vibe and of others around me, in fact I fucking hate the stuff. I need to get it out of my horny needy system. Thank you once again.

@Shin I've been thinking about that too. Escorts too maybe? How low can I go? lol Fuck sake!

@Arcangelo @flowboy Fucking hell Both of you are right. I literally crave sex pretty much all of the time, I just can't see at this moment in time how pickup is a good idea. I know Leo has said to have enough sex so we don't crave it anymore and we can go into higher consciousness, it has just taken me by surprise how important that shit actually is. Maybe I'm being too much of a 'nice guy'. Maybe I should try and be more 'alpha' lol. My mind complicates things so much I never know what to believe each day. I'm constantly learning things all the time. And most of it surprises me to the point of anxiety. I just hate the idea of using and controlling people, especially girls. I know how emotional they are.

@Arcangelo I know, they are the comments I am talking about. I just need to know if its a good idea to 'skip stage orange' and go straight to 'stage green' I think I have the answers now, I will certainly talk to girls and flirt with them here and there, but I wont be doing pickup. Its too creepy for me, there's something about it that I don't like. I mean, I'm actually looking for a girlfriend that I can share deep connections with, not dating and shagging 200 women before a certain year. I just needed to know if I was alone in thinking this way...

@Michael569 really great comment, thank you.

@JohnnyBravo great post. You summed it all up! i am pretty good socially, I sometimes get a bit of social anxiety now and again but this is with difficult people, most people are fine to talk to and so I do talk to them. But yeah, there is so much bullshit on the internet, and I’ve fallen for the trap many times, most recently being Leo’s recent comments on this forum. I know he’s right in most of what he says, but the pickup stuff is just bullshit. I hope he knows it’s bad. It’s his video on YouTube that speaks more sense than his comments on here. thank you everyone for the replies, I needed to ask people before I went mad. It’s like, I needed to confirm I wasn’t skipping over something Leo has said is important.