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45 minutes ago, Judy2 said:i find it difficult to articulate this, but something along the lines of consciousness grasping itself, or grounding myself in what's real. my default mode is a kind of dissociation where i pretend like "this is not it" or "i''m not actually here", but i guess i actually am here...so maybe it would be beneficial to ground myself more in that recognition....otherwise i'm grounded in falsehood and keep running into problems.
of course psychedelics would be a more potent tool to achieve that and i might get back to that in the future, but right now i don't have access to them and it's okay for me to meditate even if that grounds me only moderately. it's better than nothing.
If those are your motivations, never underestimate meditation. But of course, it depends on how obsessed you are.
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On 18.4.2025 at 11:32 AM, Ramanujan said:@Carl-Richard are you in yellow
I think I'm good at pretending that I am. But I care much less about pretending now than before.
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What are you looking to get out of meditation? Because the more radical the orientation, the more radical the results. Here is a quote that I liked so much I saved it on my computer 5 years ago:
QuoteSurrender to all pain. Surrender to all fear. Surrender to Love. Love. Give everything, to Love.
- Martin Ball
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1 hour ago, blackchair said:He's dating children for that past 20 years, you can't be tier 2 and be with someone who's only starting his/her self development journey, I'm turquoise/coral and single for 9years, for a reason..... there's chart of compability of colors in relationships, yellow is opposite and equal, turquoise is interbeing.....and yes I look/dress like homeless guy....
Describe Coral and how it differs from Turquoise.
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2 hours ago, LastThursday said:This forum needs something other than SD to pigeon hole us, something that better fits the individualistic vibe on here. But I guess those shiny primary colours are just too attention grabbing - genius marketing: colours and levels.
The MBTI fanatics got banned 😝
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17 minutes ago, Salvijus said:👍 Pursuing your life purpose would be wise.
Just curious, do you fancy yourself situated in Tier 2 in Spiral Dynamics?
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6 hours ago, Salvijus said:Firey response indeed, it's okay, I don't mind fire, you can go full force.
In retrospect, the profanity was not needed, but the rest was. I'll apologize, but I think you should think about how it makes someone feel when you call them not manly for really no reason.
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10 minutes ago, Salvijus said:You want me to list all the things that are not wise?
Everything that came from ego is not wisdom. Everything that comes from love is wisdom.
So essentially everything in your life is not wise, and it has nothing to do with gender in particular. Great.
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Let me leave a reminder that making mega-threads about listing examples of bad things can be a provoker of epistemic scoundrelness and self-deception, as you create a habit of putting up walls between what you like and identify with (and think is you) vs what you don't like and don't think is you. When the "bad" constantly gets put into what is not you, you can become blind to that in yourself. And there should be a virtue (e.g. temperance, balance) that excessive judgement impacts clear judgement.
Maybe a way to combat this is for each example you post, you also post something about yourself. If this mega-thread is indeed a practice meant to benefit you, maybe it could be helpful.
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5 minutes ago, Salvijus said:Do you even understand your own question?
Literally abuser talk. Gaslighting instead of answering a simple question. Stand up for what you think. Answer the question. Be a man.
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5 hours ago, Salvijus said:Masculine usually have more fire energy in them. That's why they always end up in heated situations like battles and debates. Too much fire in them. Women are more water dominat element, they tend to withdraw where there is too much heat or conflict, find a nice place somewhere else and build a pleasent atmosphere around it. Clearance doesn't strike me as a fire warrior, cutting-through-your-way-to-victory person. Which is what you'd normally expect from water element people.
Instead of calling other people water people, why don't you answer the question which I've been asking for the third time now and which you've been evading with your water boy attitude? This level of forwardness in my response is completely intentional, because you are being incredibly disrespectful to the original poster.
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5 hours ago, Salvijus said:Everything is permitted. Not everything is wise tho.
What else is not wise? Please stop evading and answer the question.
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On 11.4.2025 at 8:34 PM, OBEler said:@Leo GuraHow do you handle such an situation if someone wants you to explain the word to you, indirectly showing you that you are ignorant? In a public place like a massage or hair cut?
Treat them like they're a kid who just explained to you what they learned in science class today about volcanoes.
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I might have slightly overstated my case here in the original post. It's not that being Tier 2 or any stage is only about what your life is or what it looks like from the outside. It's that once you learn about Spiral Dynamics and Tier 2, it becomes truly impossible to tell what your stage is, because humans are the mimicking animal. We ape after what we find fascinating and valueable (and the highest SD stage we can conceive of). And we are so extremely good at it that we even fool ourselves. And that is why we need other methods to reliably determine what our development is.
Only after a very long time of deeply involved mimicking, you might actually become the thing you are mimicking. But then again, if we take the "official" words of the authors of these models (which you can doubt, but then there are also many more things you should doubt), even this might take decades. Or to be honest, this has as far as I know not been studied at all (i.e. the effect of taking in knowledge and values from higher SD stages). But if this forum is any proof, I don't think it makes very much of a difference 😂 (I'm of course partially joking with you guys 😉😋).
So my point in a nutshell is that once you have learned about SD, any claims about your own SD development become so unreliable as to be essentially invalid. If you want to get anything resembling a reliable estimate (and even then it's shady at best, giving that humans are also the bullshitting animal), survey yourself from before you learned about the model.
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33 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:Dude, I am not spending my time remembering names from Borat movies. Come on.
It's because Sasha's cousin is a leading researcher on Asberger's 😗
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2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:Borat was funny because Sasha is a comedy genius.
Do you know why the feminist lesbian in the movie is called "Alison Burgers"?
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34 minutes ago, Majed said:Spiral dynamics is too simplistic to deal with the complexities of reality. Most people don't fit clearly in a stage or another.
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2 hours ago, Salvijus said:In appearance? Everything is permitted.
No, in everything. You seem to think changing one's gender is not permitted. What else is not permitted?
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22 minutes ago, Salvijus said:Haha, nice move.
No amount of change in appearance will change the role God has given you. The role is what truly defines you tho. My recommendation is to stop chasing fantasies and embrace the role God has given you instead. See if that role is feminine in nature or masculine in nature.
What changes are permitted vs not permitted?
17 minutes ago, Salvijus said:No idea what that means.
It means God allows change.
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28 minutes ago, Salvijus said:There is nothing dogmatic about having given a role to play. Imagine a duck descided to become a crocodile. God didn't give a duck enough upgrades to be a crocodile. If God blesses you with certain enchancmemts, use them to achieve the life purpose you're meant to fulfill in this life. How you want to look is not important. Wear whatever you want. Look whichever way you want. But the role that has been given you cannot be changed and you should honor it. Start focusing more on your life purpose than your appearance. Men and women avatars are designed differently, way beyond than just the surface appearance.
At what point does changing something about myself become "denying my God-given role" vs just changing something surface-like about myself like my appearance?
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8 hours ago, Salvijus said:You have a point there. I too am very particular about what I wear. You can wear whatever you like. But it's not what you look like that defines you, it's the role you play that defines you. And God created certain roles for different people to fulfill. If you were given a support champion with support skills and antributes. Then you shouldn't play ad carry role. People will just report you for trolling. That is not how the game of life is meant to be played. Woman avatar has different stats than man avatar, their astrological alignment, their energies and their psyche behave differently to fulfill a different role for a reason.
There are many things that can make one feel unwell. Especially when reality is split into two largely mutually exclusive scenarios, which sex often is. Acceptance for feeling unwell plays a role, but so does making oneself feel well. If your kid falls off the bike, you don't accept them laying there hurting, you pick them up and make them try again. Riding a bike vs falling down can be a tricky business and treating falling only as "the role God gave you" can be a bit, shall we say, dogmatic and inflexible.
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On 9.4.2025 at 8:13 PM, docs20 said:Even severe conditions like bipolar 2 disorder and schizophrenia are more common than we think (thank God in Europe at least the toll of the opioid crisis is nowhere as near as the prevalence in the US).
Depending on diagnostic criteria the prevalence of schizophrenia can rise up until 1,2%!
Diagnostic criteria are quite an epistemic trouble in psychiatry - no other medical field in 2025 has the quite as much an epistemic problem - you don't see endocrinologists fighting about what diabetes really is or internal medicine doctors fighting about the definition of pneumonia, but you can find psychiatrists in the same hospital not fully agreeing even on what something as common as depression really isOver time, I've been convinced by the idea that "mental disorder" (as opposed to "disorders") is a more unitary phenomena that can be put on a general spectrum of "well" to "unwell". And when you are pushed to the side of "unwell" (be it by environment, genes, stress, life situations), general symptoms of disease pop up; in the beginning of the spectrum maybe milder symptoms of ADHD, OCD, neuroticism, rumination, while later down the spectrum, symptoms of schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, depression (and the aforementioned beginning symptoms in more extreme forms).
In other words, it's not that suddenly at some point in your life, you start manifesting a clear cut phenotype of say "schizophrenic", but usually it's that you experience general disease; anxiety, panic attacks, social maladjustment, maladaptive coping strategies; and some people tend to get very ill and lean more in one direction (e.g. schizophrenic psychotic symptoms) while some more in another direction (e.g. bipolar psychotic symptoms). And often you can experience symptoms somewhere in-between these two (and we even have a "category" for this: "schizoaffective disorder"). You don't necessarily fall into one category (in fact, you virtually never do).
At the same time, you do get the sense that some illnesses are more "hardwired" and unitary than others. For example, many people with bipolar disorder type 1 seem to be able to live quite functional lives at times when they are not psychotic, and that when the psychosis starts, it's like they are being taken over by something. But still, the times they do become psychotic, you can very often point to some situation in their life, some challenges and some maladaptive coping strategies that makes them spiral into that state. And it's just an extreme form of general unstability which you can see in many people, maybe even yourself, that when you e.g. become very overwhelmed by things that you need to do, pressure, deadlines, etc., you can enter this elevated and restless state. Bipolar disorder is just this taken to the extreme (and some are more prone to escalate to that extreme than others).
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4 hours ago, UnbornTao said:There's really no facilitation in her videos but a series of assertions and opinions made to be believed. It seems like she's running a cult. But people get lost in the assertiveness and such.
Is there one person or topic in the world you're not cynical about?
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58 minutes ago, Salvijus said:Only if you believe in the illusion.
Stop eating food right now. Oh, so you're attached to the illusion of being a human?
If I put on the wrong color t-shirt, I become mentally unwell.

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