Carl-Richard

When I was 11 and got my first electric guitar (I still use that one), I listened to only Metallica for over a year straight. I learned basically all of their songs

The fear of death is one of the reasons I'm not enlightened.

Eeeeeeh... You sure about that? I don't think boredom is simply an emotion, atleast the regular type of boredom where people will hurt themselves to escape it. https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-28130690

Omfg this is the best thing I've read in a long while! Man I wish I could favorite posts. EDIT: Nvm, I just discovered the bookmark function

I personally vibe with this particular type of stroking

I think it's unreasonable having to spend your time adding endless caveats to what you're saying in order to warn about any potential misinterpretations, because that potential is limitless. I will rather wait until the misunderstanding actually arises and deal with it there like we just did. ...sure. By the way, if you're all about that implicit stuff, I did infact vaguely express my concerns about the representability of academic giftedness as a measurement for "the need for understanding and truth" earlier in the topic, but maybe you missed that (I'm not being hyperbolic btw). Anyways, what do you consider to be a high consciousness measurement stick? Just curious.

Start with ending the search, then do the work

Yup. Boredom is ego telling you to change your external world. Spirituality is ego telling you to change your internal world. Enlightenment is when internal and external becomes one

Enter Sandman by Metallica is a good example of this. Many Metallica fans hated Bob Rock for doing that to them

No. You're the one making assumptions here. I was deliberately being careful in representing the numbers without making any additional claims. There is nothing implicit about simply laying out statistics. You're not a mind-reader — nobody is that intuitive Read the study before making assumptions about what the graph really represents. These types of studies compare the academic perfomance of students in a school, and they consistently find that intuition correlates with academic giftedness. That is the only takeaway here, no implicit whatevers. I made this point earlier in the topic.

Laying out statistics is a mistake? I never made any absolute statements like that. Intuitives are generally more academically gifted.

Me too. Sometimes there is that one song on the radio that has one of those magical moments in it, but that gets rarer as time passes.

If your intention is to create hit songs, then that is what you'll get. If your intention is to express what you feel deep inside, then that is what you'll get. Will they possibly overlap? Yes.

Hit songs deal with seduction and short attention spans. Musical content is a side note. The average song length of my favorite music is 10 minutes, has no fixed song structure or rhythm, just pure outpouring of inspiration and creativity.

Addiction is not fun. It's hollow.

The inability to get bored does not make you a boring person

I would take that any day over some pretentious no-ego-stroking.

Meh. They are quantitatively relevant.

Lel obviously he is talking about relative truth, beauty, love But like I've said, the level of immersion that a musician achieves through music is the closest he can get to Absolute Love, so for him, music IS the best So here is what he's really saying: Relative wisdom is not relative truth. Relative truth is not relative beauty. Relative beauty is not relative love. Relative love is not Absolute Love. Absolute Love is the best.

"Emotion" doesn't capture the magnitude of the experience. The feeling I get from music is identical to the feeling I get from awakening. It's Love. The immersion in the present moment is completely perfect; subject and object duality collapses. I understand it might not be like this for anyone, but for me it's undeniably so. People are different, but I believe every person must have atleast one thing in their life that resonates with them on this level. If not, I don't see how one can live life. The is-ness of sound is so profound, any description fails to capture it. Sound doesn't "create feeling". Sound IS, and it's completely amazing! You are the sound The depth and richness of sound is completely ineffeable.

For me, asking what value musicians provide is like asking what value food, water and shelter provides

If you have to ask that question, I feel very sorry for you

How does that work specifically?

My definition of 1st world country is essentially synonymous with social equality. If life is shit for a large percentage of your citizens, then it's not such a great nation after all.