Carl-Richard

Have you ever tried drugs before?

I don't see the utility in framing it that way. Psychedelic states are different from meditative states. Both can help you grow your baseline ("growth"), and both can help you reach higher temporary peaks ("states"). There are differences and there are overlaps. Recognize the differences and recognize the overlaps. I feel like I'm in a really unfair situation, because something that is so obvious in other spiritual communities feels so difficult to explain here. I don't understand how this is so foreign to people.

Psychedelic states aren't equal to meditative states. They're also in different categories. That isn't to say they don't overlap. That doesn't mean he has experienced more growth. You're just adopting Leo's definition. You're assuming awakening means higher states instead of higher growth. The sad thing is that this entire problem originally had a very effective partial solution: you distinguish between "awakening" (high state) and "Enlightenment" (high growth), but he dropped that term from his vocabulary, exactly because his focus isn't growth, so here we are. I say partial, because again, you also have to distinguish between psychedelic states vs. meditative states; psychedelic awakenings vs. meditative awakenings; synthetic vs. organic. My claim is that the way he talks about it is inaccurate. It's like being a math student and going to the psychology faculty and telling the professors there "Hah! You didn't graduate college! You're not a professor! Because if that was true, you would be teaching me in my classes!" That would be to miss the categories that separates them.

I describe it as I can only have meaningful thoughts; either an insight or something that is immediately relevant to the situation. I can't think the same useless thoughts over and over again. The only way I can initiate that machinery is if I catch myself doing something wrong and somehow avoid correcting course, or if I consciously imagine myself explaining something to someone. Then it's like that repetitive self-talk, because you can always repeat and refine the explanation in your head.

I had this a couple of years ago (still do to some extent). You either have to let go of the desire to control it, or stop meditating. If you can't think of anything to say in a conversation, that's fine. Another possibility is that you're chronically repressing your emotions and storing unconscious pent-up energy (that's what I had). When is that last time you've felt truly sad or angry? Do you often stop yourself from expressing an emotion, lashing out, or saying what you truly feel because it's "unspiritual"? I won't go further than this, but it's something to think about. If you're emotionally grounded, conversations should flow effortlessly, with or without a hyperactive mind. It also might all be in your mind (ironically enough). Just because you feel like there are fewer thoughts running inside your mind, that doesn't mean it appears like that from the outside. Enlightened spiritual teachers virtually always have an empty mind, but they can still talk a lot. They're not afraid of silences either though

Well, I tried to rationalize why the fuck the one dude with the bald spot and blue t-shirt looks exactly like me when shot from the side. I spent 5 minutes rewinding the same clip

Scrolling my subscriptions on YouTube

Like shit.

I've gone way longer than that.

@Someone here Did you watch the video? ?

I recently found out that the crux of the insights about meaning, health and wisdom that I've had these last few years were all laid out by Socrates, Plato and Aristotle ?

Maybe read the guidelines one day. https://www.actualized.org/forum/guidelines/

According to attachment theory, the child has two primary needs: love/comfort vs. exploration. Both need to be satisfied for the child to grow. It involves letting the child get exposed to challenges and then getting love and comfort when they feel scared or upset. Then, as the child grows, they will internalize this regulatory capacity and become resilient as well as sensitive human beings. When those two needs aren't properly addressed during childhood, you generally end up with an emotionally dysregulated person. For example, lack of love can lead to trauma and dissociation, complex PTSD, borderline, etc., while lack of exploration can lead to anxiety, depression, etc.

Air traffic controller for flying cars

Holy shit

Get used to it already.

No ?

It's the perfect name.

I think science started with Pythagoras

Omg

This is the language of addiction. I'm fluent in it. The odds are that if life is bad now and you're introducing a new habit which involves addictive drugs, it's the warning signs of the beginning of a downward spiral. When you use more and more drugs, your life gets worse and worse, and then the drug use becomes worse and worse, etc. The only safe option is to replace the drug with a different coping mechanism which doesn't involve ever-escalating tolerance and ever-escalating dosages, preferably something physical like heavy exercise, saunas, cold showers, sports.

I frankly think that you would have to try very hard to misunderstand it if you actually take the time to read everything from start to finish. I almost decided not to write it because it felt almost too obvious to even mention.

Think of it this way: 3 times a week could be considered one of the last steps before daily use, and if you happen to experience some difficult time in your life, your first option of escape will be into that kind of habit.

The category of "focusing on states over growth" is distinct from "focusing on growth over states". In one sense, the categories describe a difference in degrees, so of course there is overlap, and of course both psychedelics and meditation impact both states and growth. What I'm saying is they're useful categories. Why are they useful? Because Leo says that ALL the people in the other category are "not awake", and it's because ALL the people have a different focus than him. If all people fit into one place because they're all doing the same thing, then that is a good justification for placing them in a category.

Then I don't see how you added anything new other than renaming each concept