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@Nahm Yes Of course the wave is part of the ocean, realizing it or not. Still you either perceive from the PoV of a wave (your seperate self) even if you know the truth, or you perceive as the ocean (unity, infintiy, god). Thus can you be wave and ocean at the same time? No you are either. Can you be god and a human consciousness at the same time? You cant. Yes you are part of the infinite but in knowing or not knowing, you are still seperate. Thus I´d say you are not god but part of it. (By god I refer to everything there is) If you perceive infinity and still can focus on writing in this forum, I´ll bow before your wisdom.

Who is in the moment? See that you chase your own tail

You can realize without "dying". To dissolve the ego it takes 5meo or other practices and it is not a permanent state. @egoless yes, thank you. @Nahm How can you be the wave and the ocean at the same time? This turns into a debate about beliefs while awakening presupposes that you LET GO OF ALL BELIEFS. As Alan Watts said " Everything is falling with you, you can clinge to something but it will ultimately decay as you will".

You are aware. Isnt it that your environment is fully there, no matter if you know or dont know? So what changed that makes you frightful?

@gleb What you describe sounds like a Zen disciple who is really trying and trying and digging and digging. Its good! Go on until you see. You´ll burst out laughing.

so If you really believe in it you will turn your water into wine and the sun will never set again?Good luck Buddha smiles because he knows how silly he was. Listen to this and your questions will be answered:

@Torkys offtopic: Could you give a link (if available) for the yinyang picture of yours? It is great How did the rewriting go?

Thank you for your answer. See that everything you say has a valid point. Notice that the teaching and the religion are a different thing as the religion is a man-made institution which is built upon the teaching. No one is to judge wheter Mohammed was a corrupt teacher or not. Enlightenment is not a constant state (might be achievable in the solitude of a monastery). See that most gurus take their insight to cash in. This includes Leo Gura! The key-point of the video imo is that all teaching point to the same.

Ask yourself: Who is afraid? Who is about to become enlightenment? Who is/was trying to push thoughts aside? Who is trying to allow everything? Can you find the "who" ?

How do you do it with significant others? I caught myself recently trying to explain someone I date that she doesnt exist and was quite irritated at myself for trying. It is also this realization how far youve got with this work that you are so far away from separation and attachement. It becomes ahrd to function in society. (Leo may think about making a life purpose video after awakening).

actual advise from someone who had it from ons to marriage, be yourself. Shut the fuck up about pickup, it is 100% for materialistic ego driven nutsacks who are to dysfunctional to enter in any sort of relationship (sorry SFRL). What is "being yourself"? Spirituality & Humbleness about what little unimportant f*ck you are.

music is distraction for a weak mind to handle the pressure.

I feel the older we get, the faster a year passes by, the harder it is to stay on track with what you´d like to be because you get caught up in deadlines, responsibilities and work (especially as an employee) which only utlizes a small part of your full potential. Now, I see that full acceptance is one way to cope with that. On the other hand I think that most stories end where faith is accepted. In fact It seems to me that life is always pulling you towards acceptance and surrender while keeping hustling, keeping on fighting and trying despite the hits in the face you get, is what leaves a chance to a "better" life. (All above from a materialist and practical standpoint of the Ego). How do you deal with aging, how do you deal with that you left the stages of your life where you could fuck around and if it gets really bad you move in back with your parents. How to embrace this fact of being ultimately alone and battling for survival is what life is like and will be until you die?

Enlightenment means to see that the "I" of your story is not the origin of the perception but a feature of experience itself. Thus the mere experience includes the perception of an "I" but you are the instance which has the experience.

true. yes I see this. Nevertheless the "I" in the story has the pressure to act to make the overall story more pleasent. Even with complete detachement I´d need to find a house and garden to get food, water and shelter somehow. Being in the "Observer-mode" (so realizing the existence of the I as one aspect of reality) is a luxury as it requires the first 2 bottoms of the Maslows pyramid to be cleared.

@Leo Gura Don´t you understand that whatever beliefs in you formed by 5meo induced experiences of what you call "infinity/god" are within your experience, within your consciousness because YOU experienced them. Muho is exactly on point when he says "There is something beyond "this", which is god. You can not even express "this", how can you explain what goes beyond "this"? When you say we are all one consciousness, interacting with each other, you not only make assumptions about all the other "this" in existing, you neglect that the connection between consciousness of many "this" can NOT BE WITHIN YOUR EXPERIENCE, so it must lay outside of consciousness. Concluding "all there is is one consciousness" is an invalid claim. "But UDT you are so stupid you dont understand it, its like explaining maths to a squirrel" is not an argument, its you falling trap to your own beliefs. Additionally it has to be said that while I am arguing your position, I do not aim to attack your ego. Psychedlics alter the experience, the one (note I do not refer to the ego with this) who experiences stays constant. There is no looking behind that.

100% agree

great video!

@Joseph Maynor I dont see why awareness is aware while the body-mind is asleep. There is no evidence for that besides "just believing" that awareness can be aware of nothing thus you are not aware of it. But that´s just an unproven hypothesis. No exeprience nor book can tell you if its true or false. Can you change my mind?

"Awareness cannot exist in isolation, awareness is always awareness of something. That is not to say that the awareness and the "something" are separate. Have you ever experienced awareness with no object? "Are you aware right now?" Of course we answer, "Yes", because when we examine our own experience in this moment we find that we are aware of our thoughts, sensations and perceptions. It is impossible to totally exclude awareness of these things unless we are in deep sleep (or unconsciousness) in which case we literally cease to be Ask a person (or yourself) in deep sleep if they are aware and you will get no reply. So from our personal experience we cannot say, "I am awareness.", as Enlightenment Theory does. All we can say is that awareness (which necessarily includes, and is not separate from, what one is aware of) is arising. The correct conclusion from the experience of awareness (enlightenment) is not that, "I am awareness" it is that awareness is arising here. There is no "I", no person who is aware. However, the awareness that arises is finite and localised. Again our experience tells us this, when I stub my toe, you do not cry out in pain because you are obviously not aware of my thoughts, sensations and perceptions. What then is the locus of our awareness, around what does it cluster? We know that the body changes as time passes, it regenerates, so we literally do not have the same body now that we did as a child, so we cannot claim that the locus of awareness is the body, nor can we claim that it is the even more transient thoughts, sensations and perceptions, which constitute experience. The locus of awareness is in fact a biological organism, this is what you are, a human biological organism and you are the same organism throughout your life. Your awareness is contingent upon the existence of this particular biological organism. The awareness of what you habitually refer to as your experience depends upon the existence of that particular specific biological entity. Without a living conscious being there can be no awareness and living conscious beings are finite, they are born and they die and the unique and specific awareness that originates with them is born and dies too." - from under https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9AKvZgKfv8

@Monkey-man exactly. There is no drive for sex, why should it differ what´s on the screen?

100%. But I belive relationships necessarily change after enlightenment / realization

There is no Ego to be dissolved in the first place. Its the snake on the road which turns out to be a stick. Just look, can you find the location of your ego? is it constant? no? Well than its not you.

Yes I feel you in that sense. It might be that the experience of highly altered consciousness (as with e.g. 5MEO) gives you experiences which then answer some questions better than language can. Taking Leo´s "Awareness is precisely NOT the thing being awared." Of course, the question is, how is it possible to know that consciousness is infinite and not finite. Answer: The "I" which is asking this question, can never grasp infinity as it itself is a finite body-mind. If nothing is there to be awared, Its just nothingness (which might be awareable in different stages of consciousness). Even darkness or objectlessness is something, thus not nothing.

Yes indeed. The problem is that Leo and non duality teachers like Rupert Spira claim to know the infinity of their awareness. I can realize awareness being aware of itself but couldnt see a way to say if the present is only what is and it will be there infinitely or if Im a finite awareness localized within my organism somehow which believes being infinite awareness. When sleeping, there cant be an enlightenment experience to what I know. Thus, this awareness is not constant. Awareness beiing aware of nothing is nothing. but how can nothingness be me then?