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god fuck you guys are right. where the fuck is my nuance? thanks. there's way too many variables to just say women are more insecure than men. ive been hanging out with my parents and this feminist women that thinks all men are evil. too much black and white thinking

but why? isnt this incredibly time intensive?

please. I'll work on being the change I wish to see I feel like we should all be kind and loving to each other. We are all humans after all!! It's quite difficult to expect this from everyone. I think they need to be in a certain place to value it highly Also need to be careful with shaming people who are not kind - being kind to those even though they are not kind. That's how they will soften up In law of attraction, you'll attract those with similar vibes. If ur kind, you will experience that as well

@CreamCat he knows

Check out Leo's vid, 65 principles to a good life

@Joseph Maynor yeah I meant that perfectionism happens even outside of spiral dynamics. It's an ego thing, not a SD thing In my exp, I find that I am a trying to create a perfect human being, outside of SD as well.

This also applies to all of personal development, not just SD

@Elisabeth yes this is a major point for me too Because it maps it in stages and levels of development, many things I did not take seriously, I take seriously

@anonymous I've been wondering this. I can say for sure that the transition from orange to green makes you: More empathetic for others and more conscious of others' suffering Allows me to integrate both feminine and masculine parts of me Provides a decent framework for relationships (orange transactional vs green love) Shows the illusion of success and money chasing Allows the beginning of spirituality and spiritual teachers, moves away from dogmatic science Experience love for others more often Allows for the beginning of self love Find meaning and purpose in service to others A more slow, peaceful lifestyle - compared to orange neurotic speed More conscious of social issues Open to treatments outside of mainstream science (healing, chakras, meditation, yoga) More communal (I find this beneficial cuz I find oranges community lacking love) Less dogmatic and more openminded to new and other perspectives Healthier eating and care for body These are some of the benefits. Happy to be corrected

@MsNobody what's the meaning of the 3rd picture? I'm super intrigued

Its cuz hes working so hard to demystify psychedelics

@brugluiz good point You're right. I still want sex, but it's been overshadowed by other desires - my need for a relationship I notice that I'm just spewing a bunch of victim mentality. I'll go out and game again and heal - side by side.

@RichardY meh the video was just orange resisting green. socialism is looking fine in the nordic countries 8 of the top 10 happiest countries being socialist countries or having a large amount of socialist policies relative to the rest of the world. finland, norway, denmark, iceland, netherlands, canada, sweden, new zealand) all of which are 1st world countries and all with good ranking on GDP (meaning the theory that socialistic countries wouldnt motivate anyone to work is flawed) it's not "socialism" that's bad, it's socialism done wrong. china's government and philosophy of its people are radically different than Finland. world happiness index: https://s3.amazonaws.com/happiness-report/2018/WHR_web.pdf gdp by country: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html some basic info on socialism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model http://blog.peerform.com/top-ten-most-socialist-countries-in-the-world/ according to your theory that socialism is impossible and religious states will always supersede it there's something that socialist haters are overlooking. check out leo's videos: stage orange, stage green and deep problem with marketing according to spiral dynamics, socialism, is a progression, not regression. note: to anyone reading this, my research is incomplete. i need to study each government structure closely

Imo relationships are one of the biggest opportunities for growth and happiness. This is just my experience

@RichardY wait i thought i deleted the comment. does it still show i later concluded the video wasnt progressive. needs more orange flaws

perhaps full surrender to the song

@Serotoninluv how have you been dealing with the social pressures and change?

@Avidya love it

@brugluiz Dude, I don't know man. There's so many conflicting opinions. First, it's just not working. If I am authentic to girls they're not attracted to me. I have this one friend that's a girl, and I asked her for advice on girls (just as a fun talking point). Later she mentioned she's not attracted to guys who need advice talking to girls (she was talking about someone else, not referring to me). Leo says be authentic but it doesn't get me any girls. I have tried to talk to girls authentically about topics I find mutual on Tinder but so many of them are just not interested? Third, I don't want to manipulate or trick any girls. It's not even fulfilling at all. All I want is deep authentic relationships, but being authentic hasn't been working so far. Fourth, I believe that if you have wounds, dating someone is not a wise idea. You need some level of development. I know this because if I get into a relationship with wounds, I will just wreck havoc and do dumb shit. Furthering my point, read this thread: I just realized my results have also gone to shit as I start to be authentic. But, it's honestly all I care about. I don't care about attracting the girl at the cost of my authenticity I think I'm starting to generate a better belief system. But, I am open to all perspectives. As another talking point, I think people talking about their progression into trying to learn something is very important. It helps me to see where I am in a journey.

1) Be wary of all your teachers. they are not perfect, watch out for their own shortcomings/limiting beliefs/hidden agendas/imperfection/dogmas that can push you in the wrong direction. They are not perfectly conscious. I have found myself repeating my own teachers shortcomings. Leo's distaste for Jordan Peterson transferred onto me. RSDtyler's distaste for some progressive ideas has transferred onto me. 2) Be wary of people giving you advice. Remember to listen to YOUR heart, and YOUR desires before listening to people. If you don't have your own life plan, people will put you on their life plan. I am very intimate with being persuaded into wrong directions, due to a lack of my own, unique, authentic vision. 3) Cut out negative influences as much as possible. IT WILL RUN YOU. Ever remember having a song being played on repeat even though you only had it once? Or maybe a negative thought a friend gave you? Small words, sentences will get entered into your subconscious! BE CAREFUL.

@Emerald What's the ideal way of going about an ideal relationship as a male? I'm thinking of going MGTOW and just focusing on me. If I can't currently attract girls then I think I will just work on me until one day girls just become attracted to me because I have become developed. I recall you once wrote that girls are looking for a "specific" guy. Leo also said that girls love authenticity and presence. So. The best situation is that I'm just going to go so deep into self-love and finding my own path and eventually a girl will come along. And if she does come along, I won't even allow it because I want to focus full on my independence until I'm ready.

but - i also see my the beginnings of transferring into green, as leo was exactly describing in his last video! excitement into this whole new paradigm, all this new spiritual teachings, a new world. i also am starting to develop a love for people. i can see people just for who they are. they're all hurt. just like me. some hurt less than others. and love is such a powerful love. because at the end of the day, all we all want is love. it's our innate desire to love. it sucks that there are so many girls not about that. but honestly, thats just the surface. because all the girls i know, are all kind, loving beings. redpill had me thinking that girls are gold diggin assholes. fuck mgtow, fuck redpill, fuck incel, fuck blackpill, fuck pickup lol. it's all BS dogma. not compeltely tho. there's truth to them all. mgtow is right about being an independent man. redpill is right about there being biological parts of dating. i'm not sure where the truth in incels is. pickup is right that talking and attracting women is a skill mgtow is really appealing though. thought that maybe i could attract girls through similar interests. but im learning not that either. im not even going to try to look attractive to girls anymore. im just going to do me. forever

I am ready to full embody Orange Fuck not doing orange stuff. I AM orange, i will breathe orange, and I will move as deep as i possibly can into orange after i become a competent orange, i will take psychedelics every week for a year

Music for the following values: - I'll do whatever it takes to reach my goals - Perseverance - To achieve success - Warrior style music Examples:

Oh hey, I fit those values. Solution would be to date me. But I've thought about it a bit. Green+ seems the way to go. OR, if they're on an upward slope and I can see their potential. But also keep in mind developed people are also looking for developed people. And your level of self esteem will attract similar levels of esteem. So I'm transitioning to working on myself, and when the girl comes she comes. I think that's how it's best done anyway. That's how eben pagan does it Tbh if they fit this criteria: I also CAN NOT deal with orange relationships. Green relationships or no go. Intimacy and connection are too important to me. I am not willing if the other person cant self reflect or question their beliefs. (Problems can't be solved if this cant be done) They dont have their own purpose, vision or something that gives them their own independence. They gotta be doing things. Especially because if I'm dating her, she should be helping me grow somehow through osmosis. So far this it it. I'm lenient on looks, I just want to be minimally attracted at least.