Joseph Maynor

Good question eh?

It’s funny how things look from the perspective of Brahman versus the perspective of Maya. It’s like the difference between night and day. But both night and day are here, part of reality. But Day is so different from night and vice versa. It’s like the difference between being awake and dreaming.

How much experience do you have with Enlightenment work?

A nihilist is still clinging to belief. When you reach the state of Brahman nihilism doesn’t make sense.

The Forum is a great place for people to grasp around until they realize that it’s all right here. It’s always all just been right here. It’s like an anti-training academy. It’s going from Maya to Brahman.

The Mind is a thought story. It’s a useful fiction.

You won’t lose your morality. It will just no longer be YOUR morality. Enlightenment is not about changing yourself. It’s about detaching from a concept that says all of those bits of reality are MINE. You’ll go Meta and just be mindful of reality instead of believing that reality means anything about a separate sense of self.

You all know my style and what I like. Which Enlightenment Guru do you think I would resonate with best? I'm talking about the famous ones.

Great insight. Video on point to watch:

I think he should leave it. I like that it gets a rise out of people. Examine those emotions and why you are attaching to them.

ON ENLIGHTENMENT Enlightenment/ Enlightenment work isn't what you think it is. That's the reason why it's so confusing to teach and to learn. And that's why you have to keep banging your head against the wall until one day -- ah snap, you'll get it -- all of it -- not intellectually, you'll have an epiphany. And at that time the search will be over. The work won't be done, but the search will be over. And after that time you may call yourself Enlightened if you wish. You’ll realize the ridiculousness of all teachings after that point, so why not. As long as you don’t attach strongly to that, it’s fine. Enlightenment is the loosening of conceptual beliefs -- all conceptual beliefs. Beliefs will still arise as part of what's here in the moment, but that doesn't mean that you need to identify with them. And with that, conceptual beliefs become much less important. One of the tricks of the Mind is to reinforce the belief that conceptual belief is SO IMPORTANT. It's like -- crawl into this Matrix, it's so real! That conniving little Mind. But once you see through this fully, you'll have an epiphany that is impossible to reverse. And it's got nothing to do with psychedelics. You can't unexplode a grenade. That's what the shift is like. I just had it yesterday. It's one of those oh! Damn! That's what it is. It's a shift that happens to you, an epiphany. It's not a conceptual understanding, but a shift in perspective to use a word. It's not a paradigm-shift, as that involves shifting beliefs. This shift is not a shift in beliefs. It's like an anti-paradigm shift, to use a phrase. And you can't force it, it just happens when it happens. It takes a lot of work to convince the Mind that beliefs are not the truth. So, you do need to do a lot of work in Enlightenment. Whatever it takes to get the big crack for you. Beliefs are not good or bad. They are simply here in awareness. The issue is how beliefs are attached to -- how the Mind is trying to connect that belief to you and to reality. That mental relation is the problem. You can still have beliefs. Don't repress your beliefs. Just don't make them YOUR beliefs. This is hard to communicate in language. You gotta see what I’m pointing to. You're still clinging WAY too much and too hard to belief. That's what you got to fix. You're attaching to all those concepts that the Voice is raising. That's what you're gonna stop doing when you get the big crack. Enlightenment theory is counter-weight theory. You're not supposed to believe the counter-weight theory. It's there to loosen up all your beliefs so that the Mind can finally come to see that no beliefs touch Truth. You wanna have the shift that comes from that. And only the Mind can make that shift, you can't consciously make it.

Exactly

This is what happens when the boss is away huh? Haha. The inmates start to run the penitentiary.

That's a great insight. Great video on point:

ON ENLIGHTENMENT (something I wrote): Enlightenment/ Enlightenment work isn't what you think it is. That's the reason why it's so confusing to teach and to learn. And that's why you have to keep banging your head against the wall until one day -- ah snap, you'll get it -- all of it -- not intellectually, you'll have an epiphany. And at that time the search will be over. The work won't be done, but the search will be over. And after that time you may call yourself Enlightened if you wish. You’ll realize the ridiculousness of all teachings after that point, so why not. As long as you don’t attach strongly to that, it’s fine. Enlightenment is the loosening of conceptual beliefs -- all conceptual beliefs. Beliefs will still arise as part of what's here in the moment, but that doesn't mean that you need to identify with them. And with that, conceptual beliefs become much less important. One of the tricks of the Mind is to reinforce the belief that conceptual belief is SO IMPORTANT. It's like -- crawl into this Matrix, it's so real! That conniving little Mind. But once you see through this fully, you'll have an epiphany that is impossible to reverse. And it's got nothing to do with psychedelics. You can't unexplode a grenade. That's what the shift is like. I just had it yesterday. It's one of those oh! Damn! That's what it is. It's a shift that happens to you, an epiphany. It's not a conceptual understanding, but a shift in perspective to use a word. It's not a paradigm-shift, as that involves shifting beliefs. This shift is not a shift in beliefs. It's like an anti-paradigm shift, to use a phrase. And you can't force it, it just happens when it happens. It takes a lot of work to convince the Mind that beliefs are not the truth. So, you do need to do a lot of work in Enlightenment. Whatever it takes to get the big crack for you. Beliefs are not good or bad. They are simply here in awareness. The issue is how beliefs are attached to -- how the Mind is trying to connect that belief to you and to reality. That mental relation is the problem. You can still have beliefs. Don't repress your beliefs. Just don't make them YOUR beliefs. This is hard to communicate in language. You gotta see what I’m pointing to. You're still clinging WAY too much and too hard to belief. That's what you got to fix. You're attaching to all those concepts that the Voice is raising. That's what you're gonna stop doing when you get the big crack. Enlightenment theory is counter-weight theory. You're not supposed to believe the counter-weight theory. It's there to loosen up all your beliefs so that the Mind can finally come to see that no beliefs touch Truth. You wanna have the shift that comes from that. And only the Mind can make that shift, you can't consciously make it.

Correct. Beliefs are not good or bad. They are simply here in awareness. The issue is how beliefs are attached to -- how the Mind is trying to connect that belief to you and to reality. That mental relation is the problem. You can still have beliefs. Don't repress your beliefs. Just don't make them YOUR beliefs. This is hard to communicate in language. You gotta see what I'm pointing to. I know you do too Nahm! So, this is just preaching to the choir.