kieranperez

What's the comedown from 5-MeO-DMT like?

I saw this book yesterday at a bookstore here in San Francisco! Thanks for the review! Man, I'm so happy for you! This is so amazing! Great on you brother! Follow the path (at your own pace!) So glad to hear this massive progress. I can't wait to follow along with your journey! You got this man! There will be suffering in this path but you're taking this path consciously. I don't know you but I'm sure the hardest part has been conquered. Remind yourself there will be hiccups but man, sounds like you've conquered a fucking mountain to even get this part. You fucking got this man!

To really grasp the Absolute and to live knowing it deeply would demand you be in integrity with the Truth because you are it. As far as him doing a more “positive” impact by doing what he’s doing from the relative POV I highly disagree with. Who/how I was before I got truly into nonduality and I was listening to Sam Harris and also with certain family members of mine who are like Sam Harris and jP fanatics, I can promise you, he isn’t doing anyone any real favors doing what he’s known for doing.

Sam Harris really is a confusing character. I don’t listen to him anymore so I’m not really current as to what he’s up to these days as far as what he’s saying and so forth. If you read his book Waking Up, you’re clearly reading about him not only having nondual enlightenment experiences but also having studied sages and teachers like Ramana Maharahi, Papaji, etc. He’s “educated” on these people and on nonduality in yet.. still is holding these paradigms of how Consciousness is brain activity for example. I mean, he’s done thousands of hours of meditation and has utilized substances like LSD but still doesn’t and has done tons of mindfulness practice of the years but still denies subjectivity. Denying that 2nd and 3rd person perspective are still all held and grounded within 1st person subjective and to deny 1st person is deny what’s fundamentally running the show. It’s crazy how that’s happened. I don’t wanna go off too hard because he was my real gateway into this path. His 26 minute meditation with some self inquiry got me to realize I don’t know who and what I am. So there’s value there for the newb coming from Orange. I don’t think an Orange person can really stomach more “cleaner” forms of nonduality other than maybe through Leo’s older stuff. I think it just goes to show how deep enlightenment goes and how even no-self insights are nowhere near enough. Glimpses and even strong hits of emptiness isn’t enough to eradicate a very deeply permeated materialist and modern scientific paradigm. Also in the importance of open mindedness and of course epistemology. I think epistemology (along with of course metaphysics, but for the sake of this point...) really is the root issue in A LOT of the shenanigans we get into even in spiritual work. Its really a shame because he’s such a great speaker, very articulate, otherwise very intelligent guy, great marketer, etc. but between this and how he holds Atheism, demonization of religion, etc. really makes him a truly tainted teacher that leads many people astray. I hope he turns around but I doubt it.

More projections. More fantasies of thinking you know me lol. Best of luck devil. Best of luck lol. Youre head is so far up your own ass lol.

I know. I know. That’s all you seem to do in most of your posts and regurgitate more projections. Then when people like me or other mods and users on here whom don’t play coy and call you out for being dogmatic, closed-minded, and for having a shadow you don’t wanna look at and introspect into your annoying behavior, you turn the card around like a convenient devil would you say something a long the lines of “well what’s wrong with ___? Nothing. Only your ego says so. I’m only asking to show you what you might be missing.” Playing all the clever little mental gymnastics your mind plays. @Ponder lolol REAL

I don’t smoke. Keep your projections to yourself. I’m not trying to change you. I really couldn’t give 2 shits what you do. I have 0 investement in whatever it is you do. I’m pointing out your dogmatic behavior. Again, we’re going back to the same point. I’m point out your BEHAVIOR. NOT you. You are not the egoic tendencies that are being pointed out and called out.

Projection What happened to the front of being the emotionally untouched enlightened front? Or let me guess... “I’m not being emotional, I’m pointing out something he can’t see because he’s so unconscious (or whatever other story you have going on)” Lol the idea that the reason someone becomes a bum from smoking weed is an excuse I thought we were past this day in age. The weed is the outlet. Not the source. Get over your hang ups for things that don’t fit your preferences. I spy with my little eye a shadow right there. Very clever. Exactly. Bottom line.

There’s nothing cryptic here. It’s literal. You’re not going to “figure it out”. You have to realize you are the system. You are everybody in government and you also fund the entire government in everything it does. Go into your supermarket and see everybody buying junk and being sold poison and nonsense and realize you fund that entire system in an extremely intimate way in everything you do and don’t do. You are actually a source of responsibility for all of that. When you realize this you’ll be flabbergasted and then you’ll understand that awakening and consciousness work has practical consequences when you don’t rationalize all the evil shit you and I not only do, but also fund and are.

Is what Ralston's describing in Book of Not Knowing actually the same as No-Mind in Zen? I was doing some homework on No-Mind alongside my contemplations, which have been extremely flat, and noticed that another translation of "no-mind" is "not-knowing". I've been really trying to deepen my contemplations through Ralston's work but I think I don't really get the "magnitude" (not to sound like I'm dramatizing it) of a deep conscious state of not knowing. Though Ralston is extremely clear, I do often find that he doesn't get across the depth and even practices of these deeper states because when I "try" (pardon the limits of language) to open up to deeper not-knowing when I'm trying to really follow along with his work, I feel like there's something much deeper that he doesn't communicate.

@Surfingthewave try also if possible doing your deep consciousness work outside. Change up the setting. For me I live close to downtown San Francisco and meditating in the small claustrophobic room I have to meditate in currently right now just really makes it hard for me personally. If I change it up to say Golden Gate Park or somewhere quiet where I can truly be in silence outside its so much better. Sounds like a weird detail but it helps rejuvenate your desire to meditate if you’re far enough along past the early torturous newb phases (which I myself as a meditator am nowhere near past due to my cognitive struggles with ADHD but certainly helps) which it sounds like you are. Dont get too anal on that though.

I think it’s also important to consider that a lot of that probably comes as a result of actually meeting a highly evolved master who probably embodies these realizations on the highest level. I mean, Buddha and other sages/mystics like in “recent times” like Ramana Maharishi we’re revered as God for a reason and I don’t think it’s an accident that happens. I think when you have a person like that whose teaching (especially to masses like the ones he’s reaching) in person, that’s going to happen. It’s going to spill over. I see posts from certain of his monks who don’t even want liberation because they want have enough karma left to serve their guru. To me as someone who might want to pursue enlightenment as a life purpose in terms of impact in the future, I feel sour in my stomach because I wouldn’t want that. That’s why I tend to love the way Buddhism portrays the enlightened person. A nobody. Nobody special. They’re there for the next hero and to be of service. Even in the monastery system with how a Zen school will actually reject you. I think that a genius deliberate approach which I really respect so as to not corrupt people. That’s just for me personally, sits well with me.

Can you even imagine telling people who aren’t nerds and students of nonduality that? Just the thought of saying on the street to someone and I can already feel the wood, thorns, and nails being pounded into my hands for my own crucifixion

@Leo Gura couldn’t agree more. I guess I just have this belief of “well since it’s mostly done this way as this power dynamic, I can’t really do it the way I want which is to elevate people in their consciousness and potential such that they don’t need me anymore”. Isn’t there the question though on the importance of utilizing a responsible relationship to having a hierarchy? Sometimes when I brainstorm ideas for how I can create this impact I immediately get stuck in the usual starting a center/Ashram kinda thing and though, I love that idea but... the whole point of that is to still have a committed following right? Right now I’m in a heavy limbo phase so I’m still mostly unclear but I’m just pointing out the rut I tend to get caught in.

Does it really matter what specifically he did? There was no Jesus as far as evidence suggests. There doesn't need to be. Stories. Doesn't matter. You're not a historian. If you can't tell the difference between the consciousness exemplified by the story of Christ and Hitler then yeah, I don't know what to tell you. Yeah Buddha and Hitler are both God, true. One was almost more conscious of the other, also true. Reconcile it. Make the story of Christ a useful one that serves you if towards pursuing higher consciousness and Truth. Toss the rest. Yeah there is only one Self and there are no others to save... in yet you can still go out and save them. There is nothing wrong with the world... in yet we still must work extraordinarily hard to clean up the mess of an already perfect world.

You’re making a contrast between the same thing. If you’re seeing things between good and bad from the POV of a mortal man you’re living unconsciously as a devil because how is that judgment of good vs evil and what to do based on it being filtered? Survival/selfishness. Based on ideology, conditioning, beliefs, prejudices, etc. If you’re seeing things as a good vs. bad you’re living as a devil. All I mean by that is to say that one is viewing things based on survival. That doesn’t mean everybody who isn’t enlightened is some murderous criminal, asshole, Hiter-like person. So don’t confuse what I’m saying as that. But to suggest Hitler wasn’t living as an unconscious devil is just absurd. You might as well ask about an organge, ‘is that orange really an orange or is it just a round fruit with the color of orange that’s high and vitamin C...’

How did that work out with Hitler? Theres your answer.

@NoSelfSelf dude... nobody is telling you to run as a politician. Nuance man. You’re reading this black and white. How about educating on the many perspectives of politics? Read Marx, read John Adams, read and study communism, capitalism, socialism, and how they look at high stages of consciousness, etc. How about being more educated on who you vote for? What policies you vote for? Being more aware of what policies are even being voted on right now? Being more conscious of where you buy your food as far (super)markets and companies? Being more conscious of where your food comes from and how that fits in with the rest of the world and being more aware of where you put your money? Do I need to go on?...

@Aldo lol I don’t where you’re getting that from but hats off for being able to pull that out of nowhere.

That in itself becomes an ideology for his followers... and often that whole “dedication” to fight dogma tends to just be a dogma against dogma. Meta dogma ???

... and rolls Royce’s. Rollcing deep in the Royce’s... Pun definitely intended. In the case of Osho: enlightenment is a true test of how much you look like an owl with those eyes staring into the pit of someone’s soul. Alright. No more jokes lol

A perfect summation of what I’ve been trying to articulate from one of the realizations on my last LSD trip. By neglecting the creation, you are neglecting yourself. By neglecting “low conscious people” you are neglecting the very work that’s required in raising your consciousness because you are them. This is a domain I wish was discussed more in spiritual circles because in leaving out politics you’re actually creating a shadow and actually hurting and hindering your own consciousness and highest development. This is why Bodhisatvas are counterintuitive. It’s counter intuitive that when you become enlightened AF, to deepen your enlightenment you actually need to step OUT of isolation and elevate the low conscious masses despite the fact that they won’t understand you, will demonize you, etc. and you’ll see they’re shenanigans and not judge them but understand them from a place of Love and understanding and then go into the chaos, get your hands and feet dirty, and do what you can to help raise the rest of mankind in one fashion or another. Whether it be in a big scale like Sadhguru or your small mill guy. Regardless though, you’re involved. That’s fucking counter-intuitive. The patience these guys have is a testament to true understanding and mastery. And that’s assuming you even get there. That stage of development, mastery, and understanding alone of course is by no means guaranteed. But yeah get involved with politics. Learn. Doesn’t mean you need to listen to the news 24/7 and stress yourself out. But stay current. Mystics and sages are contempory. “He evolves as the culture evolves” - Joseph Campbell referring to the evolution of the hero in “The Power of Myth” ”Mystics we’re always contemporary.” - Sadhguru referring to how and why he works with political leaders and economic titans (to transform those in power in order to better serve the people)

@Leo Gura do you feel teachers, despite their understanding, feel like they're doing a disservice when these people fawn them (assuming they're not intentionally feeding this behavior and are genuinely trying to elevate others). I personally have this qualm within myself when I think about making spirituality a route for Life Purpose and on the one hand I'm inspired by the obvious of really helping people and creating new innovative systems and what not to elevate others but at the same time, I find the idea of (if I were to get to this point in my development, I'm just posing a hypothetical) people really becoming needy/dependent and playing that game to be a truly nauseating one.

Have you used neurofeedback? I’m planning on investing in it in the Fall. You really think yoga can do the same thing? Sometimes when I concentrate up in the 3rd eye (medulla -> bindhu) I literally get into the weirdest state and holy fuck it’s crazy. I’ve had multiple 3rd eye openings, energetic releases, “extreme” paranormal/psychic stuff (that I don’t wish to go into) happen on the extreme end but on the calmer end (which is where I prefer to stay) I literally have so much more clear mindedness. It’s freaky. You wouldn’t think chanting “Om” and feel medulla -> bindhu (and other points) and the vibration of that chant would do anything significant but it’s honestly not even funny what happens. I adapt to both regular and armodafinil incredibly fast... and I mean a matter of a couple of days. I’m pretty much baseline on a whole armodafinil after a couple days. I’m kinda done mixing shit up like that. 17 years worth of meds has just lost any sort of interest on trying to settle for magic combos. I’ll just speak for myself here but I adapt. There will always be an adaptation in the long term. That’s what the body does. I want this change in cognition to be an improvement that comes from genuine growth. Nothing against other routes for others if they’re aware of the potential and likeliness of adaptation which can lead to staleness (if you follow what I’m saying). I both agree with this and also completely disagree. I could go on and on much further on the specifics of Ralstons work that literally has me starry eyed when it comes to the possibilities and potential that comes with this work. However, Ralston doesn’t seem (and this is just an assumption) to recognize or appreciate that he is extrodinarily gifted. Mastery of this work requires EXTRODINARY degrees of discipline, concentration, radical openness, emotional stability, degrees of mindfulness, curiosity, radical openness to a degree many of us really can’t fathom. When you really get where he’s coming from (I suspect many of the people who study under him just don’t comprehend that at all) and even when you watch his videos, you can taste that he’s coming from a really faaaaaaar out place. That guy has literally no identification with anything. He is a freak of nature. Not everybody can do it that way. Right now, there’s no way I could from an emotional and cognitive standpoint. I’ve had the discipline much younger so that would take time but that’s about it. The amount of emotional and psychological systems that are set up to prevent you from doing this work for your own survival alone takes a lot to work with. Ralston started since he was a child. Think of the MASSIVE advantage that is. Most people really do need a teacher to kinda hold their hand in person for when the going gets really fucking hard. That’s why there are Zen masters and gurus. Ralston doesn’t seem acknowledge talent much and I think that’s reflected in his teaching style of like “just do it”.

Sounds like an ego backlash that feels like a hard uppercut to the jaw. Par for the course and is normal. Couple points: This is why developing self-love is important and also doing shadow work. Part of the reason there is that resistance that coming in the form of a mild depression is that your ego is your filter to the Love and Bliss that you are. I know what it feels like to have say a psychedelic trip to be one with universal Love and then a couple hours later I'm so depressed because as I come down slowly I'm noticing I tarnish and taint everything. It's pretty hard. More purification and love. Ego/the self ain't going down without a fight. Sustaining a conscious realization is totally different than having an awakening. A lot of awakenings aren't one's that abide but rather just create a new "set point" from which the self orients itself. That's not bad. Hell, it's WAY better than not having had any awakening or enlightenment at all. You're traversing a switchback trail looking out from a higher and higher vantage point. However, the self is still there. Breaking that down is much much MUCH harder. I suggest the above point, maybe doing some psychedelics, work on adopting honesty and authenticity as daily practices you carry on every day (that is so fucking hard it's honestly not even funny), and reading Ralston's book "Pursuing Consciousness" which specifically addresses this matter.