SOUL
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Our consciousness in it's most illuminated state is aware that it is awareness which manifests in the mind as our self conscious of itself.
As we awaken our awareness to being aware our ego awakens to itself being an awakened awareness.... monkey see monkey do.... hehe
Duality is just a paradigm of the mind, one that it uses to 2d "model" reality but awakening is like a quantum collapse in our consciousness so entangles infinite potential.
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Well, we can be aware of our non-dual nature, that's what awakening is and enlightenment is us being aware of living in that nature, which the mind may never be able to understand.
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As interesting and enticing all the information out there is to explore it is helpful to recognize it is the ego that can get preoccupied with all the ideas, concepts, methods, techniques and explanations of spirituality as a means of justifying itself.
There is no real deep enlightenment work, it's uncomplicated, the depth and complication can come in trying to get the mind to get out of the way of enlightenment, which is simple in nature.
When we are mindful of the present moment that is all enlightenment is, no ideas and concepts, no methods or techniques, it's simply being present in the moment.
Obviously the mind will wander or it will constantly being trying to quantify and identify the experience so it can "remember" it.for reference.
This is what distracts us from being present and interrupts the enlightenment experience so will interfere with the momentum, for a lack of a better word. in our consciousness.
This is why people have amazingly powerful enlightenment experiences on psychedelics because it chemically inhibits the mind from disrupting the experience in our consciousness.
The key to bringing this to every day life is to cultivate our mind to inhibit it's own natural tendencies to interrupt the enlightenment experience by identifying and labeling everything.
All the information we will be exposed to in spiritual circles is actually more fodder for distraction, keep it simple, just do the simple task of staying present and all the understanding gained from it will be spontaneous revelations that is relevant to your own path.
Reading the stories of everybody's experience doesn't replace our own and much of the information we may learn from those other's stories is virtually useless.
Get back to living your life with what you got going on and if you want to expand your spiritual presence just stick to being present in the moment, there's not much more to enlightenment than that anyway.
It's kind of disappointing for the information seeking mind to remove it's fixation from the process but no amount of philosophical understanding will culminate in an enlightenment experience, it's the simple exercise of being present.
Those "amplified" experiences of enlightenment we can have and see from well known speakers will happen in us when we bring every aspect of our consciousness in unity of being present
I'm speaking to you from experience, not theory learned from other people's stories.
Peace.
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Thinking and believing one knows the truth is a delusion.
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The way you are thinking and feeling about it is understandable.
People close to you in real life, they are more likely to hear things they don't agree with and still be respectful with you.
On the internet the electronic separation and relative anonymity allows people to be less respectful with others and it seems they have less ability to stomach a differing opinion gracefully.
In this technological environment the attacks some will launch are vicious and the escalating outrage over insignificant words is the norm.
So it's understandable if someone would want to avoid attracting the ire of people who find words so intolerable they cannot restrain themselves.
Some people thrive in this climate, they enjoy the hostility, welcome the attention even if it's negative and seek out the controversial topics to empower themselves in self aggrandizement by it.
Although, it seems you are more empathetic of others and don't wish to instigate harsh feelings from just words so self censor.
Nobody else can decide for you what you can bear or what topics are suitable for you to express yourself on.
Find your peace and joy in doing whatever it is you choose to do.
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Yes, it is.
The majority of issues people are dealing with are our unconscious mind habituation, it seems to bubble up in uncontrollable ways.
Although, we actually have the ability to alter our unconscious programming through subliminal influences.
It really is unconscious mechanisms but since it eventually rises up to our conscious mind I refer to it as subconscious work, that subtle grey area between the conscious and unconscious.
Use the senses like smell, sound, taste and the others to give subliminal prompts towards new patterns, the monkey mind is a simple creature as I said.
Such as, spend some meditative time using intentionally directed thoughts supported by a unique smell, an essence oil or some fragrance scent that you don't ever come across normally.
Visualize yourself experiencing the triggers but with the intended new associations while you are simultaneously smelling this scent.
Place this scent on something you will keep with you, a woven bracelet to wear on the arm or cotton ball in a pocket, whatever works for you.
Whenever you incidentally get a whiff of this scent through the day intentionally reinforce the new associations with that visualization.
When you become aware of the trigger being hit use the scent to stimulate the new patterns instead of the old by intentionally reinforcing some more.
It likely won't work seamlessly right away but eventually the old habit will be replaced with the new and the unconscious mind will retain the new association with the trigger.
Then the training wheels of the scent won't be needed anymore.
If you create healthy productive associations with the trigger it will cycle in healthy productive ways unconsciously while intentionally it can be strengthened in the present moment of it happening.
Of course you can use tea or chewing gum or whatever it is that works for you but it must be an uncommon sensory stimuli so you can allow for it to be reinforced without going "numb" to the sensory input by overexposure.
Monkey mind is easy to train with repetitive reinforcement.
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Identify the triggers that bring on the initial impulses and work on disconnecting the mental and emotional response associations by intentionally supplanting them with preferred associations.
It's not just enough to work on stopping the cycling but redirecting the process into a new pattern so the cycle won't be the same old pattern.
The unconscious mind is a simple creature so just work with it using it's primal sensory means and the fruit pf you effort will blossom forth from it.
This is really more about monkey mechanic work than it is advanced engineering design.
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I'm present 100% of the time..... now, how much of that am I aware of being present?
Hmmmmm.... increasing amounts.
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I am just beeing in the present moment. Buzzed....
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It's a self fulfilling expectation when someone who views things with dualism mindset will only recognize what others are doing as part of that dualism they see regardless of what it really is.
What is evident when a dualism mindset is expressed as good and evil is that it's difficult to not find oneself dividing up everything into two piles attributing good to one of them and the other gets called evil.
This goes on with every matter the mind sets itself upon until one comes across differing opinions, so they decide their own is considered "good" and the one that isn't like their own is called "evil".
Religions are built on this, politics are defined this way, all ideology is framed as such when the mind only views things in a dualism.
Through this means it often is used to justify behavior though it may be abusive towards others because they view their own way as right and good but that other with the different ways are evil and wrong.
They don't see their behavior for what it is because in their mind their own way has been anointed as good.
It may not rise to such dramatic characterizations in every instance but the fruit of dualism mindset can even be found when someone will portray other's differing ways in a negative light.
Positive and negative is a more polite way of exercising the dualism in someone's mind but it still is that way of interpreting things.
Healing is healing.... hurting is hurting and no effect is no effect, do we need to use overarching absolutist labels of good and evil to distinguish them from each other?
Does this mean dualism is evil? Is it wrong? A dualism mindset will likely interpret my words in such ways but to one who doesn't have it recognizes it is what it is, it's dualism.
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A cheetah catches prey, then along comes some lion who runs off the cheetah and steals it away... is it called evil or natural?.
Someone buys a sandwich, then along I come and run them off, steals the sandwich... is it called evil or natural?
In the "story" of the garden of Eden they were supposedly in a certain original state but "fell" from it when they ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
I don't believe in mythical tales from religious books but I can't help to notice the message in this one, it's quite revealing.
Abuse is what it is but if we don't label it "evil" does it cease to be abuse? The label doesn't change what it is.
What about working on certain days or ways? Or eating certain foods? Or identifying as self?
Does the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil feed your mind's views?
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@Salaam So you mischaracterize what I said about not owning things that were given to us and not of our own choosing into something that it's not..
Making explicitly negative misrepresentations about a way different from your own but you are offended by supposed "name calling"?
As someone who suffered many forms of abuse as a child, none of that which happened to me was mine and me not owning it or any of the thoughts and pain that plagued my young life from it allowed me to transcend it to be at peace, joyful and free.
I am not responsible for the abuse of my childhood and have no obligation to take responsibility for the thoughts and pain from it, I release them, they aren't me or mine.
I choose this present moment, the now to be what I am and what I intend for my experience, not let things I didn't choose be me or mine.
I was not calling your way wrong or trying to disprove it but how you react to a differing way is evidence of intolerance.
It seems your methods are failing you if you cannot handle a different view without casting aspersions, my presence in this thread may be exactly what it needs.
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People with strongly held opinions often believe in them as being "right, good and true" using it to create self identity in separating themselves from what they think is "wrong, bad and false" so oppose it.
In someone who is working to remove self identifying dualism from the mind those that believe strongly in their own ideas see just another "wrong, bad and false" to be against.
There is no way reach those who want and gain self value from the separation with appeals from what they are in opposition to.
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Good and Evil
Perfect and Imperfect
Truth and False.... in the spiritual sense.
These are black and white dualism absolutes projected onto existence.that really is comprised of a rainbow spectrum.
Just another belief system imposed by the mind on everything.
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Well, when you falsely characterize another's way while citing a word like disassociation that is used for a psychosis by mental health professionals then project your own emotions on them because they offer an alternative view to your own is the type of thing that is found with self righteous bigotry thinking that only their own way is the right, good and true way to live and others are wrong, bad and false, that's not a leader or caretaker of the world.
This is what's ails the world, not heals it and you may be too identified with your beliefs to see through your illusion.
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Don't worry about nice guys and assholes stuff, be genuine and fulfilled with who you are.
This will attract a person that embodies the same spirit.
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Anger? Haha... why are you projecting emotions onto me?
All I did was provide an alternative way when you said there was an "only way", I didn't mean to offend you by it.
Although the way you responded to it and characterized my alternative didn't show much respect towards someone being that way.
Is that how "authentic leaders and caretakers of this world" react when confronted with a differing view?
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Living consciously is a momentary exercise so there can be a fluctuating experience of it expressed at any given moment.
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Oh, so it's just your own way of viewing it that is "healthy and effective"?
How convenient that is to justify your own belief system and all you think is required!
Then you go about contriving hypothetical scenarios illustrating the misconceptions you have about another's path and that defends the ideas you believe in.
Does it comfort your sense of self to think this way?
You think you not only have control over your self, you can control and be a caretaker to the world? The universe?
It's amazing to me that you think you have freedom through control, especially over things out of one's control, over others, the world and the universe.
This is where the path of personal development differs from spiritual enlightenment, personal development seeks to control, spiritual enlightenment seeks to let go.
All paths have influence and effect on the practitioner in different ways and to different degrees but all of them are exercised in the same way, though our intention in the present moment.
That's all we have, the present moment, not the past and not the future, just the present moment.
Whether someone claims responsibility for it all, part of it or none of it has no effect at all on the present moment other than on the mind.
What we are presently being right now is the only influence that is exerted, the rest is just imagination in the mind.
So why should I take the responsibility of carrying the past with me and have an expectation of controlling the future? Is that really freedom?
Free from the burdens of the past and expectations of control for the future is the most responsible thing I can presently be.
You can choose to view it any way you do.
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I am not going to say you are wrong or attempt to disprove your perspective in any way but just will present an alternative view to it and I am doing so because I saw you say "the only way" to be free ......
Another way could be to take no responsibility, I didn't pick my life circumstances prior to being born into them and being subjected to all sorts of conditioning before I even had a single moment to consider I existed as a conscious being with the ability to choose whether to take responsibility or not.
So all the resulting thoughts, feelings, ideas, concepts, beliefs and attachments are not of my own doing or choosing so I can now choose to not identify with any of it and take no responsibility in dealing with them.
It is a warehouse of lost baggage given to me and what obligation do I have to unpack and pick through it all? None at all, I can discard it.
So in addition to all the choice you suggest would be gained through taking responsibility there is another choice that can be made, dis-identify with and dis-own it all.
There is always more than one way to the mountain top.
Just something to consider.....
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"Enlightened" tell stories about the stories to distract others from believing the stories that distract from being aware of being.an aware being.
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Consciousness is the initial cause of all being.... it's the because.
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Assumptions are not reality.
The observer and the observed are not the environment that the observation takes place in.
Dualism delusion....
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51 minutes ago, Russell Parr said:Are you saying that you have no use for any dualistic mindset?
Does logic has anything to do with your intellectual experience?
Some things exist as a duality in nature but not everything does yet a dualism mindset views everything as a dualism even if they aren't it so is a logically flawed mindset to use as a basis of perspective.
I think you would appreciate recognizing this.
If something is a duality, see it for what it is if something isn't a duality see it for what it is.
Why default the mindset to dualism then, wouldn't that be one of those delusional perspectives you were hoping to enlighten from?
My intellectual experience has many expressions, logic included sure, but not logic dominated.
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@LifeandDeath I hear people say that about awareness, too.
Although, my feeble human mind can be aware of it being aware even with the load of manifest ego conscious of itself so absolute consciousness is infinitely much more aware and we have the ability to tap that through our own awareness.