SOUL

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  5. Posted

    12 minutes ago, Fidelio said:

    Why do you make so many assumptions? Do you believe you can read minds? Because if you can, what am I thinking about right now? And no, it's not porn.

    I didn't have to make any assumptions, you provided the evidence of it yourself with your own words. Is this lack of self awareness you have one of the eight folds? I'm just wondering...

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    29 minutes ago, Fidelio said:

    Well, do you remember what we were talking about? I suggested to Emerald she follow the eight-fold path, and then you asked me if I follow it myself, and then I responded that yes, I have, for about a year, and that it's now almost second nature, and now you are asking me what is second nature, and I refer you back to my last post-->the eight-fold path. If you don't know what that is, I suggest you look it up as I don't have time to explain everything. Or, since Emerald knows all there is to know about everything spiritual, perhaps she could come down from the mountain and enlighten ye sinners.

    Why are you so angry? Also why are you so bitter and dismissive of others because their way doesn't mirror yours? What in your spirituality brings you to call other people's way of expressing their spirituality as "bullshit"?

    If this is the type of behavior and attitude towards others the eight-fold path produces in someone who claims to have it's teachings as second nature to them I'm not sure it's something that benefits anyone.

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    10 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

    SOUL -- How do we make sense of theory then?  You seem to give with one hand and then take away with the other when it comes to theory, and then conclude that it is all pointless ultimately?  Please enlighten me on that issue.  I hope I haven't mis-characterized your here.  Why deal in theory at all if it is erroneous?

    You asked what's the difference and I replied in a way to clarify what some of the facets of consciousness are and what people may be referring to with those words. I didn't say anything about theory or that anything is ultimately pointless so not sure how I can reply to those.

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    Those are just labels that people use to describe certain aspects of our consciousness but if you allow me for a moment to set them aside to explore some of the various aspects it may help bring some clarity.

    There are different parts of our brain that contribute to our conscious thought processes, the oldest has been called the lizard brain which provides our primitive instinctual urges and responses like the flight, fight and freeze response to a threat. Then there is the younger part of the brain that is responsible for our social and emotional bonding and responses which could be called the mammal brain. Then there is the youngest part of the brain that is responsible for what we call our rational mind.

    Now these different parts don't operate in isolation or independently, they are an integrated system that produce all of the different urges, instincts, thoughts, feelings, conditioning and everything else that creates our experience and perception. Even our attachment to an identity is an accumulation of input from different parts to result in us identifying with our self. Much of this is involuntary actions that happen even to the point of us not being aware of some of it happening.  Our identifying is also involuntary, it's a natural expression of natural processes.

    It seems like most people use monkey mind to refer to the way the brain works with the different parts together doing what they do and the resulting expression in our mind. While it appears they use ego for the identifying facet of the brain processes that produces the expression of identity.

    So what people are reffing to with those two labels are really very much intertwined and I don't see any real value in seeking out specific defining parameters to fit them into separately because they are expressions of a whole that each individual may perceive differently.

  12. Posted · Edited by SOUL

    @S33K3R Part of the monkey mind conditioning is being fixated on right and wrong(accurate and inaccurate) which empowers that belief system so if we are seeking to change the habituation of this mechanical creature we can do it by offering it alternatives to that primitive dichotomy paradigm. Plus even the most inaccurate beliefs can produce powerful effects for working in one's life so ultimately it's just using a mechanism of the monkey mind to heal it self.

    It's freeing the mind by transcending the ideology of the concept in working with the methods of the mind stripped of identity justification and anything that may give a foothold for the ego to use it to justify.

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    8 hours ago, S33K3R said:

    as you master meditation and clear out the beliefs you have that are inaccurate the mind will change.

    Whether beliefs are accurate or not isn't the most effective way of viewing their value, what I prefer to view them as and found it effective is if they are contributing to our well being or are detracting from it. Which is really just an extension of do they aid in us being present in the moment or do they distract from our presence.

    Other than that your response is succinct.

    @Joseph Maynor Yes! It will. Monkey mind see monkey mind do, What we put into the mind will eventually come out of it so we feed the mind what we seek it to eventually reflect in us.

  15. Posted

    1 minute ago, Will said:

    not sure I understand this

    Well, just in resistance to the mind and what it does, even in trying to still it, or cease desire. It's like asking us to stop the flow of the infinite source of being in us. Just let it be.

     

    7 minutes ago, Will said:

    I think I try this by just appreciating the thing I have and my experiences and anything I am interested in.. not sure how to pretend I have something.. its not really being in the moment

    I understand why you would interpret my words that way and I agree on some level of the temporal moment things are in a state of flux with us experiencing waxing and waning of the manifest so who even really knows if we 'have' anything anyway but in the mind we can realize our fulfillment every step of the way in the moment.

    It's not about pretending anything although once one has the experience of being fulfilled in consciousness the cycle of desire and satiation of the mind can be recognized for what it is. The 'thing' we supposedly need and don't have won't effect how contented we are so when monkey mind ego flashes in the mind of me wanting I am experoience being fulfilled regardless.

    Or something.....

     

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    @S33K3R  I prefer not to form an absolute concept conclusion about things and I myself have in the past thought of the ego as being solely in the past and future until from sustained observation I realized there is a significant emphasis on the present in it's natural function. Even though the ego uses the past to predict a future for us to be prepared for it I became intimately aware of how present it needs to be to deliver the information in all the multidimensional perceptional qualities of a virtual reality to our mind that it does.

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    Attempting to force something out of our mind rarely works so instead let it be there and observe the ego presenting all the impulsive triggers to your awareness so you will learn it's methods of manipulation. Another way you can try to manage it is to envision yourself as already possessing this desired thing because the mind is susceptible to suggestion and it doesn't always have the ability to distinguish the difference between imagination and reality. Often the chase is more of a trigger than having it to the egoic mind.

  18. Posted · Edited by SOUL

    So you are saying that you are all about the no judgement...ok...

    Wait what.... nothing matters and it's all pointless illusion?

    That's judgment....

    ...and we don't know and can't know anything?

    More judgment....

    ...you even presume to know what the "god head" knows or doesn't know?

    Woah absolute judgment...

    So.... no judgment....yea

     

     

     

  19. Posted · Edited by SOUL

    Start by stop trying to stop things that just are what they are, just let the mind do what it does and peacefully observe. Trying to stop the mind from doing what naturally does is like trying to stop the waves of the ocean from coming ashore. Being in stillness of peace while observing is the most influential exercise we can 'do' to bring that peace to the mind, ego and the whole of our consciousness.

  20. Posted

    There has been some research done that has some tentative conclusions which could be drawn about the activity in the mind during sleep and what it may be.  The amount of information that is collected by the subconscious mind is so much that it is processed even while we are sleeping hence the "dreaming" we experience.

    The issue for the mind is that access to the senses is not possible while we are sleeping so the context of this processing can become distorted and somewhat abstract as we all have come to know about dreams. The mind is storing this information for future reference but since it is an abstract distorted version of the experience it won't be fully contextualized until it is finally referenced during waking hours when it is related to what we are experiencing at that moment.

    So there isn't really much we can glean from dreaming that we haven't already been exposed to when we are actually going through the experience as it happens. We can learn about how we attach emotions and symbology to certain circumstances and potentially get insights into how we may respond reflexively when triggered by correlated associations and be prepared for them.