Ananta

To me the opposite movement to clinging/attachment is aversion (ie, someone or something that arouses strong feelings of dislike.) We usually are either clinging onto this or that, or pushing something away.

Isn't that the remedy, not opposite, of attachment?

@Victor Mgazi Aversion

There are not spirituality meaningful or an error, they just ARE....they are an appearance like anything else.

I really don't have anything constructive to say, at the moment, but had to pipe in and say your user name is hilarious! Lol ??? Oh, PS, nice post!?

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@A Seeker yup!

Jackpot! ? ...and, if they are independent of an "i", what does that tell you about the reality of "i"? (ie, if they aren't "your" thoughts, then are you the thinker? Is there a thinker?)

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"Tuesday, 18 August 1981— This morning Nisargadatta Maharaj was too weak to speak. The suggestion that one of the recorded tapes of his talks be played was approved by him. After about twenty minutes of this, he asked that the tape be stopped. He sat up in his bed with some difficulty, and whispered a message: "Think on what you have heard just now — what you heard and, infinitely more important, who heard it". After this brief whispered message words failed the Master. His throat got choked. He closed his eyes, his frail physical resources grappling with an excruciating pain. And we watched helplessly." -- excerpts from the book : "Pointers from Nisargadatta Maharaj" by Ramesh S. Balsekar __________________________ "Thursday, October 20, 2005 Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi's "last" words The following are the "last" words of the fully-realized Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi on Friday April 14, 1950: "They say that I am dying, but i am not going away. Where could i go? I am here." 1 When his devotees complained that he was abandoning them, he replied: "You attach too much importance to the body"2 "The Guru is not in the physical form. So contact will remain even after his physical form vanishes." 3 "

Interesting ? Although you were happy, there must have been a sense of incompleteness or lack for your happiness to be "rocked" from finding out about enlightenment, right?

Nice video by Shanmugam! Boy, was he sweating his arse off though! ?

Hi Mike, thing is, suffering, imo, is caused by being stuck in the head. Identification with negative thoughts...the unhappy, "me". The circumstances of one's life, dont even have to be "that" bad, but if one believes the negative thoughts saying they are bad, then, boom...unhappiness...that can and eventually does, leads to suffering if there is no relief. Reflecting at a later time about the degree of suffering that was apparently needed to propel one into awakening, did not "cause", the suffering. Identification with thought did!

I didn't say it was. I was agreeing with you. I said, "Ain't that the truth", meaning, "yes, that is true".

@Victor Mgazi Ok, I see you didn't understand. To answer your question, you could say, "I AM consciousness/awareness" when/if asked your true nature. Thats just one example. Anyways, have a nice day!

@Leo Gura ?

Ain't that the truth! ??

Oh boy ?, don't be the personal pronoun police, language is dualistic. Stating, "I AM consciousness" is correct, in my view (you are the ocean, "seemingly" appearing as a wave...the wave can know, it's the ocean, by realizing it ain't really a wave!). The mind realizes it is consciousness/awareness, "not" a body/mind. If this wasn't so, you wouldn't be able to communicate this realization, nor would any master/guru. Sorry for butting in my 2 cents. Ps, its only belief if one hasn't had the realization they ARE awareness/consciousness yet. You don't know what someone has realized or not by their use or not, of pronouns. That's just silly. People don't go around talking about themselves in third person.

@Faceless ? nice!

Yes, but my experience here at this forum is that most here (99.9%) have no interest. So, it's a waste of time to bring it (Vedanta or anything similar) up or it was for me. They just scream ..."you're using theory!" Anyway, nice to "see" you

@Viking I met a guy at a club (I was there to dance and have fun with my friends), we did NOT have sex for awhile. We dated. That was.."30" (THIRTY).. years ago! Don't let someone tell you what you will or won't find at a club. Be cautious, but don't treat women as she devils. I only read about 2 pg's of this thread, as I could not tolerate Etagnwo's posts any longer.

3 times a week on average.

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@Nahm ♡♡♡ This! Unfortunately, some voices in the head are louder and more self destructive then others.

@Etagnwo I wish you'd stop being mean, just stop.