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	  Socrates replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God @MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI The "fail until you figure it out" attitude doesn't work in yoga unfortunately unless you're naive enough to ignore the risk of having irreversible energetic issues in that pursuit. It is like giving a child a loaded gun and telling it to figure out how the gun works without taking into account that the child might shoot itself. Unless you figure out the energetic aspect of spiritual pursuit you will be spinning your wheels doing practices you don't understand just because a book said so and then will come back crying about your ill health, not knowing you caused that to yourself.
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	AI is not intelligent, you can even conclude this if u put a small riddle for it to solve. If it isn't in its database, it can't solve it. Imagine AI as a library of words based on the chance of them following one another based on patterns. It is pretty dumb if u think about it. It may have some crystallized intelligence (without the experiential part) but it definitely doesn't have any fluid intelligence.
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	  Socrates replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God You guys are playing with fire doing yoga from books and not following a master, you can get hurt if you don't know what you're doing. Since Sadhguru said don't do yoga from books and especially Kundalini, I'm not risking it.
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	Destiny has come such a long way but he still has this awful video game addiction it is so sad to see him wasting his potential. Just stop playing the damn games in your mid-30s especially when you join a fucking panel about a serious topic, for fuck's sake.
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	Apple is the perfect example of being "successful" doesn't equal value in the world. We're talking about the #1 company that sells shit products at an exaggerated price and caters to the lowest common denominator. Also scams on every repair and takes every possible measure to be anti-consumer and STILL is number #1. Funny enough that I heard a rumor about having "special" Apple-branded usb-c cables for iPhone 15. Imagine how brainwashes you'd have to be to say "Oh wow what a great idea apple" and buy the iPhone 15 despite the outright cutthroat business strategy the company applies. It is enraging how that company can sell a limitation as a feature and people still line up to buy those awful products. But do you know how all this fuckery is possible? Branding. As long as people buy the Logo and not the product for the service it provides, we will have such brands thrive.
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	@Leo Gura The same kind of idiot that would call Trump a "successful businessman" competent enough to lead America. People love appearances, the substance is irrelevant, if it looks big and shiny it has to be valuable!!!
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	Oh man this is so funny, if i was Rogan id say just stfu and try them to have an opinion or don't talk at all. A good full blown trip would deconstruct all his bs.
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	Truth be told you can't shut down all AI even if you wanted to since you can't control what other countries do behind the scenes. As far as I'm concerned China or Russia or North Korea are developing long-term AI strategies to conquer the world and infiltrate their way into global sovereignty. Not only we don't shut it down, but we should also invest in government programs and companies that will dive head-deep into AI so we have as much understanding as possible.
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	@CosmicExplorer I can't believe id get to watch Mike spew such nonsense ?, i guess he is way too out of his niche in this topic ?
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	  Socrates replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God As long as you got tendencies and inclinations to pursue any material limitation you are not enlightened. As long as you can't leave this body behind and come back you are not enlightened. As long as you can't stay for 10 hours straight without any discomfort, you are not enlightened. As long as you seek insight after insight so your ego can feel "enlightened", you are not enlightened. And most importantly as long as you use the word enlightenment as some arbitrary benchmark for consciousness, you are definitely not enlightened ?
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	Good idea guys My mind can only imagine the fucked up future we will have as a society with deep fakes that will be co-opted by less developed ego-minds to strengthen their biased argument and perspective. I can only think of right-wingers abusing it though ?
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	@flowboy Im happy someone actually gets it in here. Leo Is stuck in materialism unless he is under the influence. No understanding of energy nor the mechanics of a ritual and claims his rituals are better. That's the equivalent of learning in math class 1+1=2 and ditching all your teachers and saying:" I know math better than everyone now". It is laughable, you barely got started ? I love psychs but people misuse them by judging progress by their peaks. If your baseline doesn't move you are SPINNING YOUR FUCKING WHEELS ?
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	  Socrates replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God Eliminating all suffering is way earlier than awakening. You can shed all suffering if you create a space between You( capital Y), the mind, and the body.
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	The problem with this statement is you judge something you don't understand. You don't know what it takes to make an ayahuasca ceremony so with the very little information you have you boil it down to ego. If you actually look at it you don't know what role the shaman plays into it, and your simplistic mind wants to rationalize it as "gatekeeping". He may play a role he may not, it isn't relevant, what I'm pointing out is you jumping to conclusions based on assumptions and a lack of facts and understanding.
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	not a good look ?
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	@Leo Gura That's my country ???
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	@Leo Gura Lawsuit then
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	@Leo Gura slander is though, and it is factually incorrect to say you have a "death cult"
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	@Leo Gura Are you copyright striking those or they don't bother you?
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	Just entertain the fact that Sadghuru can "schedule" multiple births not only of his own but for other people too in order to achieve his goal and build dhyanalinga and help people wake up in his own way. Not to mention he said he will even help people after his death for many years to come. Only some food for thought of how deep this can possibly get... No amount of trips will get you to that level of mastery, but what do i know ?
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	Tate is the perfect litmus test to see the level of development of the person you are speaking to.
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	@bloomer He looks so happy ?
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	@Leo Gura You keep undermining the issue which is both political and psychological in nature. To clarify, this issue highlights the traumatic childhoods of many young men and which results in the retardation of a person's natural growth. We seek what we lack, if someone feels weak he will glorify appearances of strength and that speaks volumes about the issue. You are acting like a right winger by brushing this off like it is beneath you. What role models do young kids have from the left side of the spectrum? I've said this before and ill say it again, you take your good childhood (in your own words) for grunted. No normal teenager will watch your content unless he is years ahead of his peers. I'm not asking you to solve the problem, I'm asking for a political analysis other than brushing it off. Doesn't it disturb you that this guy was the most searched man on the planet by our youth?
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	@Leo Gura Have you seen any talks between destiny, sneako, and the fresh and fit guys? Do you think such communications are productive or not? Since we know for a fact that many men and kids are lost in the red pill shouldn't we engage with them in conversations so there is a chance someone escapes that paradigm lock and leaves the echo chamber? They are underdeveloped for sure but that doesn't address the fact that way more right-wing personas even engage that kind of group while the left completely ignores them.
