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ValiantSalvatore replied to bejapuskas's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Spirituality has been big in Egypt and the Nile delta, although there is seemingly less interest and it's not easy to find reminents I believe of that. Most cultures had shamans. Leo sort of tailors his episodes towards the majority of his audience I don't know if he specified a target group. He could make a video about himself for example worst aspects about Leo and following my teaching. Similar to Shinzen's video why I am a lousy teacher. I like it for example that Shinzen includes way more cultures in his descriptions, yet keeps it secular. So I resonate a bit more with that, I dislike the term pure philosophy a lot intutively, although I like 100% of it's content. Anyway thanks for taking the time to answer my comments! -
ValiantSalvatore replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
My bad was not intentional. Can't change it also. Wanted to share a opinion on UI/UX design and the ignore function and give an example about conscious drama, I mean the theater exists so does conscious drama and actors in that way. Anyway my two cents. -
ValiantSalvatore replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Yes, I love the poetry/insight type stuff as well as beauty and art appreciation. Also the mid journey a.i stuff was dope!
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Humilty and putting in the work would be very cool. Most I feel do care about your development I feel you come of as egotistical, as you don't think about others as much which is extremely off-putting. Thinking about more other holons would be cool etc. That fundamentally includes us.
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ValiantSalvatore replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That is a nice perspective, dopamine also from the newest Huberman Lab is the happy molecule, so in a way these apps can give you something if you are not coming from a super-holistic place, as most are quiet sanctimonious about this aspect to beginn with. Most don't even share their drama to learn from it to strive for the best. I enjoy drama from time to time, it makes live intersting and spicy, I can be a drama king in that sense and I would cause more drama for fun, I frankly love it. Most are not conscious enough. To give an example I've been to a story telling work shop with two gifted americans who went to a gifted drama school program, seen that kind of trained and deliberate conscious drama changing into animal figures/characters instantly like a super-actor was amazing. Drama can also simply be a discussion, I appreciate the ignore function as not every input has as much value as perceived and can be blocked. I would not want to have stage red hells angel members as my neigbours for example, as this would threatn my survival. The ignore function is good imo, I did not even know it exists. I dunno why this would be a bad UX design , I'd say it's a mandatory feature of every UI/UX to block certain features clearly...I did not even know it was here, yet this is a science for itself. I certainly would appreciate to stop certain cycles and feedback loops, that cause damage in that sense a block and ignore function, certainly is a high lvl UI/UX desgin from a stage yellow perspective as you can stop individually, the excessive self-interest of others. This is more or less obvious. -
ValiantSalvatore replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I would attend a course by a professional in terms of just getting the skill you search within yourself to communicate with the world, I think you are highly empathic, although most would be unable to appreciate that. When Leo endorses you on the blog, he does it for a reason I think, and most members just act highly developed and are stuck in scientific thinking. I certainly would say you seem to come of as partially aggressive and over-direct I have a similar issue with my "inner choleric" and beign healthy and assertiv (been to a trained psychologist) just looks and feels different. Although you are quiet assertive. Focusing on principles instead of subjective experience would be cool in general. Comment could be to generic, so I dunno. More empathic communication and assertivness could be a cool combo, I could also enjoy that chill pill for a while lol. -
Discord to real life meetings(including Leo Gura) would definitely be cool, yet no idea. I'd actually wanted to purchase coaching from you, yet coaching does not exist anymore. A discord server for accoutnabillity would be nice, as a test run. Never seen a good discord server tbh. I mostly leave them. Less stage red bullyteaching more healthy assertivness and energy projection if possible. In the sense of duty beign noble in a sense (quickly skimmed thick face black heart). Ban f*ing incel type meme sharing stupidity and v-meme creation that is to toxic, some of it can be fun. Also to sterotypical memes without the purpose to explain/destroying stereotypes should be banned. I mean I have a sick humour, also yet all of this energy stems from anger and frustration mostly. Discord server should be tailored to psyches and self-actualization and work, so you don't legit get any killers to many of these incel type tech people and the worst of the worst could happen, and this should be done in a somewhat esoteric/exoteric mix way. As an example this would be great for me in terms of accountabillity, as it's difficult to find someone who is that interested in PD and Psyches, as well as just simply enjoys conversations and sharing knowledge/information. Isolation can be rough. This also could be good for game and meeting women/relationships and dating, yet I am unsure this is more a dark area, when I visted various discord servers, that fantasy shit might be dope, yet it legit scares me how dirty ppl can be, so no idea. A relationship/community section could be great also, I am unsure what is possible in legal terms with the current LP of yours with alien intelligence. It would also be cool to stop demonizing meditation as this seriously evokes a lack in motivation to practice, it's fine to mention pitfalls and criticize it, yet I legt miss the logic here and it feels like just justice and vengance at times. Also less member favoring, I sometimes hate it personally when people garner the grace and benevolence of the guru, and it's nice to just appreciate you for you, even if that is not easy via an online-plattform. Depends and you how would you like to see actualized.org evolve? Sometimes just more technical clarity and explanations, it's difficult to keep up with the material and human beigns are so different, exchange can be neccessary to further growth imo. I learn a lot from discussions and asking questions for example. There could be more ideas, yet if the interest to run a spiritual community exists, discord could be a good first step. Although I have doubts about serious members, yet serious members should lurk in discords and do the work and not be to crazy with da work also. There is so much value in the last years epsiode, just talking to someone could help solidify the knowledge as there are a lot of obstacles in life.
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ValiantSalvatore replied to bejapuskas's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
That is true, although I'd have to say it is how society has often worked, I used to get a lot of more shit and I bet a lot of black people to in terms of stereotype threatening that has stopped, it is correct society is evolving and we are part of it. There is more openess, although I find it has to be included with the value of strength/beauty at one point, as seeing others as weak has certainly major pitfalls, like the hyper-masculinity drives of many. It's funny when I go through RSD content how a transgender person could benefit from that and social engineer society, even from a high leverage point in HCI, yet that would be very high-end anyway. Especially in terms of internal value. Where I also sometimes struggle iwth. -
ValiantSalvatore replied to bejapuskas's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Briefly, I enjoy the perspective, race is an invention by Blumenbach we are 99.9% genetically identical. I don't know how good your German is, yet here is a good article. There is also a good book explaining this based on research and other articles pointing to that relative truth. https://www.uni-goettingen.de/de/650077.html 100% most humans are in denial about their biases, for their survival agenda and group-think and sheep heard mentality. They are not threatening their need to belong and are incapeable often of including a larger belonging, as the group dynamic changes. Yeah, this is so common also the Asian hype-train of white guys chasing asian women, I find this partially disgusting even bi-racial, bi-national people because of white beauty standards and fundamentally Blumenbach, this is why I hate also the term pure philosophy from Leo as it evokes this whitness agenda again in my head. I like all the philosophies in them, I just think the term "pure philosophy" is not good. Because it evokes these old historical concepts, mainly beign focused on "eurocentric white" stuff. I am no expert nor do I have time to dive that deep into this area, and I've been attacked from all sides, that I just focused on beign integral. It's funny how I basically clown them, as there are studies showing "bi-racial" faces are more beautiful etc. According to new public perception as it basically became a norm in the 1990's to date interracially. A term that is also not very good imo, as race is an invention. You could say intergenetically, and it's still sorta not good. I just focus on holonic beauty asymmertically and symmertically, there are so many beautiful aspects about an individual. What annoys me is the greed for apprecation for these, even in myself. I do believe the core value of this is having a nuclear family without these, it's impossible and you would make evolution a sheer scientific perverse endeavour, having a nuclear family is a good agenda imo. Most humans don't understand drives and needs, listening to Maslow a transgender human can easily evolve like anyone else there are other obstacles that for sure deny needs, for integrating a self-actualization perspective. Most and me included at times are vigilant about corruption, so I dunno the youth is quiet open Gen-Y to alpha and are more acceptant instead of tolerant, the social dynamic although can be quiet bothering ngl. I would like to know more about my biochemsitry to cope at times. I mean I've been raised with gay and lesbian people basically when that was a tabu, and my existence has been a tabu for many. So I get the picture, the point is you are a cultural creative similar to me and everyone else, and some will go against that strain. It's survival unfortunately! I don't have the time to answer other stuff in depth. Might answer later. -
ValiantSalvatore replied to bejapuskas's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
I find it odd and sometimes to stereotypical, it would be cool for instance if I could associate my identity to a country and not to my phenotypical expressing and laughing about the "stupidity" of ethnocentrism and instead I am forced more or less to think I am part of the group black. I could not laugh for example about the prejudices and ethnocentric behaviour as I frankly don't know which country my black family stems from, from Africa. I can easily laugh and empathize with German stereotypical Memes and Stereotypes, I mean I can watch Hitler in his original language and I legit have empathy and compassion for the guy, as he simply did not knew better, and I frankly just think he is funny. In terms of also German society beign idiotically compassionate to that idiot. With that I mean sometimes on the forum things are not appropriately associated, there are no "white memes" making fun of "white people" as a group, there used to be some mems and videos that invovled black people doing smth. stupid and fun and it's associated often to blacks. It's not like oh that is so sterotypical "italian/russian" and you can laugh about the cultures and manners, I mean it's implied, yet I often felt and saw it was blown out of context. Every black person is a stage red macho-jerk. I saw that a couple of times. Also the subtle nuances sometimes I experience as a black person. It could just be me, also gaslighting these experiences is so common, when I talk with black friends they listen first and at one point might tell me, oh that is garbadge or smth. To show me I am lost in my perception. I mean I have close to 0 mistakes in the implicit association test. etc. It's just as far as I know the issue of human design for example the doll test, where even black kids choose the white doll, I don't know if this is priming as well as if Ukranian Roma's have darker skin color. There are just more strong negative associations with the color as well as perception of black. https://www.verywellmind.com/the-color-psychology-of-black-2795814 You can also see this in the beauty industry which is an annoyance sometimes to deal with mentally, as there is legit a secret hierachy created, which can be an annoyance and definitely shapes my perceptions about dating. I just wonder why at times, as so many humans/people are beautiful. I just don't find it easy sometimes to appreciate so much bias in a sense, as well as it's also just stupid at times, when westerners want darker skin to show they are rich/well-off know it's a beauty thing, as well as simply enjoy the tan! It's sometimes annoying to see lower stages beign heavily impacted by that. For example a couple of my old friends even black said they would not appreciate dating a black skinned girl caus ugly, in simple terms. I find this laughable, and I am the whitestest of them all it's so stupid. That is interesting to design such a competition would sound interesting to most I think, as you could design a fair obstacles course for all and then so people would even be more exposed to it on the media under what people deem normal conditions, I mean you have even mixed events in Olympics, I bet you could design a fair competition although it would take time. I would personally just think that is cool and gives people purpose as well as more access to friendships and a shared culture. Like sports and anything included under that umbrella. Also the idea of restoring black culture is so far off from me here in Germany, maybe in France and England I could not even imagine what that means in terms of Europe in America I can simply see that a majority of them are dominating culture and that has an affect in europe in terms of music and television displaying black americans. Yet we legit have more Africans here, so it's an issue for me personally to relate to others. As cultures are enormously different. I can share a personal story of wanting to date a transgender person, she/they then namecalling me and I thought well this is just stupid I am beign very open and vulnerable here and it's beign massively abused. Now I am pretty much confinced to not date transgender women? anymore because I don't believe anyone is healthy enough to keep up with my normal health routine from the transgender women I dated. As well as none of them really have been very spiritual and a lot of them like me? As I seem trans? Because I am "bi-racial" , "bi-national" that already evokes the picture seemingly of openess. It's difficult to not make it about looks and more about character and beign interested in the women, as this can involve a lot of shocking details, I did not know. It's crazy for a heteronormative guy to consider all of these worries. Although interesting! Sharing what I experienced. Find it odd how many free passes I get from transwomen/gender people online. Unsure if bias. Just sharing, would be curious if others have the same experience. And yes it's about the individual! Not the group. I frankly don't know I would even have to pick myself on things, based on the nuances on the forum sometimes beign ignorant I find it odd at times, that sometimes black people don't receive an answer, as well as seemingly black people don't receive an answer on elaborate writtings etc. I for example prefer using a white picture of smth. I like as it evokes more positive associations for others, as soon as I take a black smth. People are not acting usually as innocent anymore, that would be a "stupid" like chess double standard for me where black begins and white is second for fairness. It's not easy to come up with examples. Also for example when I am with my aunt, my aunt as a white women beign adressed first, when I would be a skinny tall white dude, they would adress me first. It's not easy to describe these perceptions. Anyway I am out! Would take to much time to explain and write it all. It's easier for me to talk about bias, as I mostly engage humans. Although some stuff is just stupid. Ignorance on this subject is very big and just speaks for "majority/white priviledge" and systemic abuse at times. -
ValiantSalvatore replied to bejapuskas's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
I like all of these topics, it's just sometimes impossible to talk about this openly without an expert coming up with factual data and historical data, that is not skewed in anyway and being open about the possibilities. I left the forum basically for 2 years because of discrimination subtley and tracked the accounts and they got banned. I recentely just posted in my journal some discriminating stuff, as it was playing in my mind and one person I presume also got banned for promoting this kind of discrimination. I do believe most of these conversations should be held in a manner of acceptance and openness and not rationality and truth seeking, to simply implore and explain the concepts often. For example I know and meet sometimes a lot of homosexual people and my aunt is homosexual, so I know the dynamic basically since birth, so I am not the traditional cishet man (cis-gender hetero) . Then considering spiral dynamics and beign fair and accepting I don't sometimes see the level of development appropriate and there are a lot of resentments I don't fully understand, for example I still believe a white homosexual women has more priviledges than a black hetero male in our society, just by sheer observation and knowing my aunt etc. I don't believe she as well as other homosexual men/women are nearly as often discriminated as me as a black person for example in Europe. I for example am beign discriminated by immigrants based on their development seeing me as a "dumb african" when I am German-American and black and white. As a lot of religious cultures are of very early and low development and act morally superior, which I frankly don't like which makes modernity and neutrality as well as rationality again very important. This is missing from the left. Acceptance and rationality basically without the social justice warrior resentment as they are usually the higher stage of development! When a person is white and benefits from the majority priveledge and a lot of people simply enjoy the energy of homosexual people (me included), it's just sometimes very obvious, how hard I need to modulate myself to a culture I simply don't resonate with. Rock music, a lot of beer, a discriminatory history and then to love it all! Is super-counter intutive and frankly even if I can love it. I find it horrifyingly boring. Then when they modulate to what I resonate with within my culture for example rap music, black history and culture in America, discrimination and even just global history and development. Mostly these topics involve vulnerabillity and resistance (grit), people would need to share stories and even simple things, as people avoiding to touch your hand, as they believe your skin is dirty and stuff like this. I find colorblind racism by far way way way worse, currently, if you are a person of color discrimination is basically 10x applied regardless if homo/hetero/non-binary etc. This also goes for immigration and immigrants, and I never witnessed also so much arrogance from immigrants regardless of which country. It's insane. I would like to know why. From what I saw from him I don't think so, he is just intersted in fairness and the "ethics" that govern trans people, as he just loves all people he might say something stupid. It's like saying is Joe Rogan racist? Because he said the n-word and he loves black people imo, it's simply bad timing and all humans are vulnerable. It potentially was to much at the given time. I don't find it funny anymore either. I prefer watching Dave Chapelle or smth. It would be more interesting how trans people can shape society in a way where it is less discriminatory for them, as well as a lot of cishet men to consider their priviledges and reach out to others. Practically, this won't happen as people conform a lot to a fear morality. Which centeres around stage orange/blue, so their are open and neutral about it, and tolerate it as well as conform ethnocentrism, the appreciation and diversity of it simply is missing. In a more holistic perspective Joe Rogan airs a lot of bullshit that a single trans person can do for example in Olympics to destroy fairness, I mean if you get two humans of different genders, biologically and biochemically to a similar level it might be fair, yet for a biological male to have an advantage in physical strengths, even without beign a scientist it's obvious this is true. I dunno aired my opinion, for example I don't like to feel grouped in this minority spectrum of beign a symbol for diversity because of my phenotypical expression, yet there is nothing I can do about it. It's annyoing. We could share examples of discriminations even smaller ones to make it more evident, to simply reduce bias. To add a little more without these conversation stigmas, and bigotry would not be revealed, as well as solutions should be the orientation of these discussions at best multiple. I am no saint, double-standards should definitely be discussed. I also believe the forum is moderated very well, although there are some nuances, where I'd love more transparency. I witnssed a lot of double-standards, so yeah that could definitely be a good talking point/juxtaposition. Having multiple judges is great also. -
ValiantSalvatore replied to Rasheed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Micro-retreats are also quiet fine, if you are serious to meditate approx 8-10h on a weekend, multiple times and then take real retreats + do psyches, that would basically be "overload" . I can average around 6-8h on a strategic weekend retreat per day. 10:45h is how long a goenka retreat goes per day. Talking about meditation and yoga definitely is motivating, to even do it strategically. For example a 4h sit on the weekend and doing psyches etc. I still love my 8h sit on LSD was fking mind breaking. Also very disgusting in terms of working through my heavy ego. Just talking about this stuff defintitely gets my hyped to continue with my schedule, this is insane. Dunno from all the DMT research I heard it's the most profound experience in terms of realizing what is god possible. I just hope that Leo can teach it in a way where more "average" humans can achieve it with patience and dilligence, as there are billions of roadblocks and I notice how my life purpose might dovetail into this, ideally. I just hope I don't shoot myself into the foot, as I was unable and I am unable to twist myself to a pretzle. Doing some kriya yoga showed me how powerful all of this stuff is. Just reaching mild god-realizations makes the effort worth it 100%. Hope I can finally use the NN-DMT I bought without negating my life purpose to heavily, I am pretty sure doing online-retreats with psyches is also quiet effective, I did not try it yet, although I did it once for a 4h session and it was quiet nice. Definitely being a psychonaut is worth it with experience. Love your work Leo keep going! I notice I was fast asleep because of human bullshit, hope I can get out of it soon. -
This is way to overblown . I've meet a guy who did something similar at a zen retreat and was before at a swedish yoga retreat, he was ISTP by my guess kind guy! Some culty stuff does happen two guys told me (the ISTP guy included), I went to a more rural area, so it was close to impossible as all eyes are basically on you, because the area was so small and integrated into society. Farmers and pedestrains passing by etc. Unsure what happens out in the wild. Ngl crazy stuff can occure, I'd definitely check the video from Leo how to recognize a cult. This is why I prefered Zen at the beginning, although it has culty elments to with the repression of sex and teachers abusing women etc. Media is overblowing it, if there is no full coverage life like Osho on fox.news or smth. so it's more dirty insight shit that can happen. At least one guy told me that the zen monastary in France I went to the sister monastary had some sexual condcut issues lol. The center I went to was very clean seemingly, they even allowed to drink beer and I presume some normal acceptance with excessive practice just counter-balances a lot of culty shit, and obviously somewhat clean members. Most would not even join a zen monastary for life. The second head of the monastary I went to opened up his own dojo, I presume as they wanted to spread and they created a new dojo. It's kinda beautiful, he was also seemingly clean, yet everything can happen like the Culadasa incident. I don't think any space is 100% cult free, and tbh it's also kinda funny if smth. like this happens. Although not to crazy hopefully and traumatic. Most won't really have the cognitive line mostly, because the experience would be fully stabilized as a structure-stage and not a state-stage, so dunno hope this comment is useful. At best it's funny drama. I don't have any ama's just wish you the best for your experience!
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ValiantSalvatore replied to Carl-Richard's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@Danioover9000 No idea what happened as I don't like following this drama personally. My relationship experiences have been rather odd, so dunno. The ideas in wild nights a book from David Deidra helped me to play with the ideas more. Although ultimately socializing and being a good/decent human being is more of a goal to me. I dunno I am so battered physically, I wish I would think less about sex with testosterone at times. Wild nights has some good stories about this lusting/chasing of experiences in a more conscious fashion. It has good lessons. -
ValiantSalvatore replied to Carl-Richard's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
The transparency issues . Insight gone wrong, did not even watch 1 second of Twitch drama. I watched to mutch reality TV while playing halo . American laws are amazing to contemplate . -
ValiantSalvatore replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Bro, even if you come from a TIER 3 perspective, you could be hardcore retroflecting (punishg one's own face) as shadow exist in higher releams of existence. Having Leo partially as a role model caused me a shit hole of issues lol. Because I also don't know sometimes what I am doing and integrating the shadow is painful. Imagine it like Itachi or smth. if you enjoy anime. Accepting dark qualities and checking into shadow work is quiet important. I did like 2-5 years of this even publically anonymously with disgusting concepts and owning them, is not that fun. In that sense the shadow might appear as other in higher self and you are retroflecting yourself. So to speak. For most this is not an reality, it's even insane that someone can point it out, as a consideration. With a bit of though love . There are also more hardcore methods, for example Holotropic Breathwork and Leo has a video on this. I am using the 3-2-1 process as these apparently deals with higher levels I am unsure how holotropic breathwork/shamanic breathing is a thing for TIER 3, to to speak as barely an individual fully functions at that level. As well as for TIER 2 and TIER 1 pathologies at TIER 2 and TIER 1 are very visible. Some also funnel all their energy into it like vultures. So again I get the idea that hate promotes attention and is a currency lol. -
ValiantSalvatore replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That is interesting, that is similar to sharing the principle from Steven Covey. Seek first to understand and then to be understood, which is quiet difficult in practice, as you consistently make the effort to understand the perspective of another person as long and until they feel understood. Asking questions promoting empathy and re-stating the experience of the other person in one's own words, until the other person feels understood. Ironically, many don't even yearn for the empathy they just appreciate the ego validation lol, so I for sure can relate as sort of an "empath" and beign under constant attack of "wolves in sheep clothing", as vengance is an interesting topic in itself. Funnily enough I just read this which gave me a bit insight into the game of not playing a game, as this game also exists... and I am pretty good at that . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynicism_(contemporary) Definitely going with the flow can be scary because of the "self" as well as if others parts "lower selves" arise from a for example TIER 3 perspective there are certainly shadows and personality/ego is arising, some are so "stupid" and consistently test that to validate their ego games. It's a good feedback to see for oneself where one is at imo. That's that! It's funny I never realized how far energy could go in terms of attention, and I like it that it comes to my awareness thanks to you! This is what I notice a lot so positive energy and positive action are certainly important and then "haters" basically arise to unit and band against even the positive agenda. Which is incredible to witness, especially in a weak position. Expressing hate in a creative way (giving my best to change some attitudes) can help to showcase and display discreprancies, this is why I enjoy a lot of rap music, although sometimes these messages are to much and sometimes they do alleviate a lot of pain paradoxically, as it helps me to relate to a reality that is basically projected upon me and partially lived. Ego's certainly love beign hated, hate is a great motivator the concept of mastery also goes into depth of using this as a motviator to overcome obstacles, although you most likely only get a dopamine kick for a phasic dopamine reward to overcome obstacles like mice . Pun intended. So, unsure hope this helps to disambiguate the tension in the thread. There ceratainly is a way to communicate more effectively and holistically, it's a matter of practice and even AQAL. I mean why are business letters written in such a formal way? To disambiguate tensions.. politics are ridiculous, although games "have" to be played ultimately imo. The game of no game is also a game, that is why I love Alan Watts so much as a philosophy , even in that experience you can most likely find meaning etc. etc. I don't think he is the best role model though lol. Hope this gives some clarity. Doing my best to evolve currently, although I am basically pissed out 99.9% of the time in my existence . -
ValiantSalvatore replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The perspective of drives might help to distinguish and disambiguate the idea of ego. Survival as a perspective is a very beige type perspective and the lowest and earlierst starting form of human evolution Then you basically have "survival" as a perspective up to holistic qualities at stage turquoise where embodyment is visable and palpable especially, when meet at an eye-level in terms of capabillity. Many force themselves into a fear morality instead of beign couragous and breaking boundaries, even if in the end it might turn out wrong. Anyway, this is sort of my two cents for the whole thread. Somehow the topic of gaslighting turned into one of my usual threads . Checking out SD theory might explain the stuff in a more holistic manner, so you might find more of what you are looking for in terms of ego. Just attacking ego and mentioning ego and forcing the ego of other to arise, is not imo a very prolific way of creating more "god-realized experiences" though love at one point is to much, and it's fully stage red concept that is heavily over-used imo, from a more "hyper-masculine" reality. Which I am not denying... So, yeah there is that . My natural brain activations, also seemingly make me more ego-aware, yet let's see if the jelly spirit comes back . Guilt could also be a hot-topic to talk about. Shame simply is a social modulator... -
ValiantSalvatore replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I did not read the entire post nor do I have currently the time to fully read it although I'd love to! The simplest answer that I can find it the following what helped me: Awarness is auto-corrective the more conscious I become the more automated my responses are to "stuff" that is toxic like gaslighting The more integration of my shadow that I am doing the more I am aware of these phenomena appearing in my consciouness/mind The more I notice people are attempting to act on good inentions and are causing harm, the more I am inclined to forgive them if possible! The more I notice sentences and wordings that caus gaslighting in simple terms any You: (non-dialogical statemnet). You're hurting me. You're so sensetive. You're so angry all the time. You're so XXXX. Is a lack of responsibility of accepting one's own emotion. The solution is stating I statements like 'I am hurt and angry because of how I was treated in our last conversation". " I am offended by your comments of depciting me as an over-sensetive cry-baby". Is a more monological way of dealing with "power" issues and gaslighting. As it's an attempt imo to gain control over an agenda in a toxic way. A technique also to be more assertive is negative inquiry to then ask. What is it about my fishing on Sunday that seems to disturbing to you? As assertivness is a healthy quality to develop and make this a broken record! Keep saying that until there is a definite and clear answer. This can break the cycle, I am not an expert, assertivness and power disambiguation are two techniques that are quiet effective. Also non-judgement and in that sense again "awareness/consciouness is auto-corrective" as the !YOU! -> does not retroflect on the !YOU!. So there is no eternal self-flagellation from the self called other?! Hope this makes sense. The most and easiest answer is 99.9% of humans are incapeable of holding monolgocial power -> dialogical power -> translogical power: Making I statements -> monological (no blame) Making we statements not YOU statements -> co-operation /dialogical power in 2'person with as many "persons" that are a second person... We could be more aware of our intentions to not sabotage our relationship. Our relationship seems like it's bleeding I feel very hurt about it. I would like us to re-connect and I suggest we can look into topic X together, so our relationship could flourish more! etc. etc. Making trans-logical statements and experiences -> Be non-judging loving, let go of power and agenda, accept the big picture of the conversation. A statement that disambiguates a lot of power for me is: That might be. That might be true. That very well may be. Certainly, although ultimitately I do not know. It's tricky I did a course online on how to disambiguate power. Some cling very well to it and I notice focusing on Truth > Power. -
It's not discussed in academia/business sectors as much. Therefore the knowledge and implementation of it is a huge hurdle. Morals and emotions are imo even a larger issue than most other lines if development. Most are also lazy and bitch and moan about their situation, without having a significant reason and some are just very hardcore and bulldoze their development. Being consistent is crucial, I am a development addict, yet have internal issues. Most of the ppl here, could read and watch the videos and books again to have a bit more of a intuitive discussion instead of overly relying on unconscious imprints. Survival does not determine development it's an aspect of development and survival is uplifted through that. Maslow and Graves are very important to understand personal psychology and grow as a human being. Also shadow work tremendously and just life-long learning in generell. Most ppl here have a function in the grand scheme of life and SD can have a huge impact in awareness of pitfalls and working points to grow upon. A poor homeless man without money could be stage turquoise as a human, yet his life conditions and environment might not be there. This is possible as development can regress during stress etc./ life circumstances. The larger issue is having the balls to implement this stuff at a high leverage point as well as to create a structure of one's own that integrates these values. Values determine internal behaviour and orientation. Also Interpretations of these..
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Spiral dynamics is simply the value line of development. That is the most simple way to explain it. Spiral dynamics is not cognitive development... unfortunately it would partially be IQ as well as the abillity to take perspective, in terms of depth and span... if that makes sense and my memory is correct. Can recommend Kosmic Consciouness audiobook from Ken Wilber he explains 99.9% of the stuff there. I loved this audiobook to death pretty much on every journey I undertook... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral_Dynamics
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Maybe maybe not . At least not yet. Doing a masters in applied computer science...hope it will go well!
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As they are interested in cross-paradigmatic understanding and holism mostly. That is what I would say .
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I fall into the same trap, that most painful and obvious solution is to embrace a creator/artists mindset and accept that there are obstacles and challenges and see it as growth opportunity. Setbacks are inevitable. This is in a nutshell my personal experience. I struggle with this also from time to time.