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@kylan11 CIA used A LOT of psychedelics. Insane amounts of lsd Leo tried hemi sync.me too. It's nice but I can only reach states like on a peak of 20 micro lsd (thats very rare) and I tested it for a year. It effects are far far away from a normal dose of psychedelics. It is a great Tool with it's own value but not a substtitute for any psychedelic experience

@Leo Gura What did you found use less? Sadghuru unfortunately doesnt come to germany in november, his Trainers will be there so I will be initiated by them in a large group. Did you Do shambhavi mahamudra course or any other isha course?

@Davino woah Thanks for the great report! I cannot answer your deep question. I still have no breakthrough experience. Plugged 12 mg eyes closed today. I ask me how different would it be if I open my eyes constantly. I was just Fluid, merging consciousness until consciousness was complete still and I could not feel myself anymore. That was nice but I dont know how to categorize this into a spiritual insight like nondualty or so.

Disclaimer: recreational usage of psychedelica is not recommended for beginners. This thread should not be a discussion about why to "waste" such substances on media. However for me I discovered, that consuming media gave me different insights into spirituality than just closing my eyes the whole time. I could open new chacras through pure enjoyment and entertainment with media. Also I remembered how I experienced these movies as a child. So to all the serious seekers here who get offended by this thread, relax. We are still doing spiritual practices here, just in a different way. Let us share here experiences with psychedelics combined with media consumption. Which psychedelicum do you prefer on which dose? I start here with a trip report of DPT: me and my girlfriend took rectal DPT(me: 25 mg, my girlfirend 20 mg) 30 Minutes before going to cinema and watching the new disney movie Ariel in 3D . My girlfriend had first time DPT, so she was surprised it was like 5 meo and nausea kicked in.Also she had big fear because it was a new substance she is sensitive. Luckily as the new ariel film started her nausea went away. We were clear headed, no one recognized we were on drugs and everything was in control. My girlfriend had a great time watching the movie on DPT. She said she was fully immersed. However music was normal, not enhanced for her. For me 25 mg rectal had almost no effect on me, so I need to take more. Overall DPT could have potential for media consumption but I think it is too hard to find the right dose here.

I take sadghurus shambhavi mahamudra course (inner engineering total) in beginning of November in germany?

@bazera it will increase by 1% I think. The likelyhood in my opinion is 80-90% or even higher that you will experience God with a breakthrough dose without preparation. So thats pretty high already. You dont need an excuse to delay God experience by wasting years for preparing for this Event. Be honest with you what you want. You can have it right now.

He really was naive to think that he will get out of this.

@Yog oh no this Lady Linda.. She is not very accurate. Look at skinwalkers Ranch, which was a giant scam for getting money from government to do "paranormal investigation. To get the investigation money further they needed to be creative about inventing paranormal thing , and she believed everything what happened there..

@Starlight321 can you elaborate? Can you remember what body it was, if it was your previous life you remembered and experienced or in the future? What can you recall doing things for years in another body? Also Details like celebrating birthday or buying things at a store etc

I dont believe that. When he make such a claim, then he should write a book what happened in this Alternate life. If he can remember 30 years he should have now a lot of experience and learned some skills. If he worked as a Programmer for example in this Alternate life he would have 20 years of work experience there and would be now a Senior Programmer in this World without writing any code before the trip. Do you see how absurd that is? In 30 years what books did he read, what movies he watched, which games did he played? Where did he travel, which Restaurants did he tried out? He doesnt talk about that in Detail. He jups directly to "so about 30 years later I was an old man". Dude.. What happened in this 30 years if you really lived 30 years there?? No answer to this. So I dont belive this trip report. He maybe had just a few minutes there in this other life, time feeling was distorted, and if he come back to this World his mind construct a story about it to rationalize this experience. Sound cool but there is just delusion behind this

I just watched "Moment of contact" on Amazon prime which Leo recommend. It's really one of the best alien documentaries. Makes me believe in aliens, these interviews are genuine. If there are similar good quality alien dokus please share

Halo combat evolved on xbox. It's really a masterpiece. The follow up halo series is not good. The effects are less (look at grenatese, needle gun xplosions) and the driving physic of the warthrough feels less good. Too fast. It feels like you are driving a very light vehicle.

childen at school needs to be educated on different classes of drugs. There must be subjects to 5 meo or weed or lsd and alcohol. Especially they should know what alcohol does to their bodies. Such important things needs to be learned in school. And there needs to be Harry Potter like howard schools where you learn about magic, Out of body experiences and psychedelic usage for science. We need to talk and research openly like in this forum about this stuff.

@Hardkill @Hardkill not really I think. Addiction is a symptom of mental ill ess. The problem with abusing drugs have mostly mental ill people. So the most people will not use it anyway, they are not even interested in trying even once By the way, many mental ill right now abuse alcohol, one of the most destoying drug.

@Swarnim of course you can train. I needed to train for 3 month to get my first oobe. Hard work but also great reward once you make it out of body. Compared to psychedelics there is no way that obes can traumatize you. You even feel total normal.

@LSD-Rumi you cannot compare. It is too different

A little Update, I took on tuesday 10,5 mg 5 meo malt rectal and this was my strongest trip so far. The comeup was soft and I thought after 15 Minute that the trip is over but then it slowly unfold. I saw Turbine like visuals I cannot describe. I also saw figures merging out of nothing and symmetrical splitting into two halfs. This went on and on. There were some seconds where I felt like my body is dissolving. That was cool. There was one time like I could see through my eyes, (eyes were always closed) and I saw space Today I tried 12 mg and the comeup was noticable but after 10 minutes thats it. No visuals and no fear or anything. I really have the feeling 5 meo malt gets weaker the more often you try. Or at least my body doesnt respond to fear anymore. I get used to it to plug 5 meo malt 2 times a week. Also the afterglow effects are not as present anymore like the first few trips. Anyone noticed this too?

I plugged first time 3 mg. Compared to 3 mg 5 meo dmt this was a strong effect with great energy Release (felt more like 10 mg 5 meo dmt, 3 mg would be not noticable ) Second try 4,5 mg. Felt a bit weaker than 3 mg but effects were there. Third try 6 mg. Strong resistance and fear kicked in first 10 Minutes but manageable. After peak I got visuals. Forth try 6 mg again. Almost no effect. I took 8 days before for 3 days lsd so I thought I have tolerance Fifth try 6mg again. 2 weeks have passed since last lsd consumption. Almost Zero effects again. Why Do I have Zero effects with same dose now but had strong effects with even half the dose on first time?

@Leo Gura @Leo Gura @Cocolove My curiosity is hard to quiet down but at the same time I just totally understand how you cannot talk about this openly yet. Especially if it is mentally exausting for you or makes you vulnerable in public. Burnout is one of such a nasty thing. My girlfriend had burnout for 2 year because of a health Issue which dimished her Performance. There were some key events that helped her to get out of this. Now she is recovered but a lot of things were needed to make this recovery possible. Her symptoms were psychosomatic and she could heal this through some methods. Physical and mental Health were linked in her case. I hope you will find the right method to recovered from this too. It really can be rough sometimes..

@Jannes@Jannes They partly legalized. But big step!

Being total alone

5 g dried or fresh shrooms? Can you tell? Welcome to the forum!

@Princess Arabia Red light district. he is joking

@Leo Gura What are your incurred costs in terms of your psychedelic journey? Is it that you are not so motivated for human goals anymore because you went too much beyond being human?

For me he is a salesman, but that's my opinion. If it could he possible? Maybe but I dont buy what he says