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@Leo Gura oh thanks!! Interesting topic.

@Leo Gura why were you never interested in Kundalini awakening. This is the most fastest and permanent rewiring of your brain. You are then tripping non stop until Kundalini energy settles. There are so many legit reports where you just need a transmission from a master, which gives you an Kundalini awakening. Also yoga combined with psychedelics should easily trigger an Kundalini awakening.

@FourCrossedWands that's not what I meant. I meant Zuckerberg is disliked as well as musk and the stock is still doing well. So it doesn't depend all on how you like or dislike the chef of this company.

Consider the collateral damage leos teachings can do to unconscious people. The world doesn't need new Zen devils under Trump. I witnessed myself how normal people turned into maniac Zen devils through spirituality. It's real. Connor Murphy is just a popular one example.

@Breathe I estimate 10 years but probably more.

Wow thank you I was waiting for this! You are one of the very few who then can tell what's the real difference between psychedelic insights and meditation retreat insights and the aftereffects. I don't know anyone on earth who is serious on both sides.

I feel not good about Leo and Joe Rogan. It's almost like Connor Murphy and Leo. The audience is too different.Just look at the comments. People are not ready for this and that leads to all kind of problems. Only exception would be if Leo shuts up about spirituality and just talks about how to be funny.

Then Peter Ralston? He is serious and there is no problems with mainstream. Even if it goes wrong, the damage would be not so big.

@TheEnigma what you point out besides Elon musk being disliked is too generalistic and fits to all stocks of a car company. Tesla is more than a car company. Zuckerberg is also disliked and look at meta now. Tesla dropping down to 80 USD is heavy unrealistic. Only if the entire market would be down in a historical crash this could happen.

There is somehow a trend in the us. Everyone gets radicalized. JP, Joe Rogan, Elon musk, and so on. Even Trump wo was radical already got even more radical.

@Majed can you elaborate please? What's psychedelic and what, aspects did you deconstructed?

Whats the motivation? Must be extremely frustrating to do such alternative instead of psychedelics which get you into deep consciousness instantly without sitting for hours.

@Leo Gura wow thats insane amount 20 hours. You documented your journey all along on your blog, would be nice to hear in a more detailed blog video where you on your journey are working at.

@MsNobody he does it slow and smooth and has incredible results. He had no ego shattering breakthrough so far. I don't know where you see that he does it irresponsible. "You must be wise and prepare your body for the load." In my opinion it's way more smooth for your ego to do 5 Meo regularly in smaller doses than one big breakthrough. In this way you prepare your body for the load.

Does it really matter? His work is still great.

Better with Peter Ralston than Joe Rogan. Mainstream is not ready for an interview with Leo.

@Tristan12 I see you are doing great improvements. 5 Meo DMT and 5 Meo malt in my opinion are great. Ketamin is overrated I think compared to 5 Meo in terms of healing. It just gives short time relief. But that's my personal experience, I could be wrong. Also thank you for sharing your journey with us. It must be annoying to you that some people here don't understand your situation. Mental health is too complex and some here think they know, but they don't know.

@Aaron p verg0 is an expert in psychedelics already. I think he knows better than most people here.

For me: Leo's raw enlightenment blog videos. But also this one: https://youtu.be/qQMQe-BD-Us?si=QpflZol7umFsU0iO

@Verg0 nice talk, congratulations!

From my experience I don't have noticed that, more the opposite. If feel great the next days. I take small doses 75 micro 1 D LSD. I think such things like becoming depressed happen more to beginners. I remember that after my first experiences I had nasty hangovers. Never happened again after a handful of experiences with LSD.

Ok so you mean deep contemplating also and mindfulness, self honesty. But that's not really hard suffering or paying a big price. Locking in a dark room for 7 days, injuring your knees from sitting too long only to get a psychosis afterwards for months, that is a price.

But if you stick to psychedelics you can skip those tortures. So where would be the suffering then if you stick to psychedelic mainly. A video about covering the costs of awakening would be awesome. No one ever did that before. All gurus show only the positive side. Maybe shinzen young is more real but he is one of those rare real teachers.

Do you regret it or did it pay off if you consider all the costs you made?

Ok but that's what I meant. You take strong doses 5 meo and do a heavy breath work afterwards. I could tell you from hearing that alone that this is too much. You cannot blame then vaping 5 Meo alone for your destabilizing week. It was clearly because of the heavy breathing session afterwards.