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@Puer Aeternus well I am male and all men are almost the same. There is no mystery really if you know yourself as a man you know other men too. The wiring of the brain is almost same in men. Even Osama bin Laden had memes and counterstrike on his computer. If you want to see somehow a balance so that not only women are portrayed negatively for sure. Men have very dark forces in them. They can be grifters like women in a more effective way. They can lie, steal, destroy, being total delusional, irrational. But yeah it's somehow a bit pointless to talk about because we all know I think how men are because we are men ourselves.

Ok I got you. Yes there is something going on. Half of mankind are women, you can't ignore them, they are very important. So it's important to understand them. Yet understanding woman is a rare topic - mostly just in a funny way and not seriously. Right now the cultural narrative is that everyone and everything is equal in their minds. Even if I never buyed into this I got brainwashed with this narrative. So even if I know men and women are very different I still get shocked how different they really are. To such an extreme that I try to figure out if some of that maybe a distortion of my reality. Of course I am aware of my own projections on to them, seeing truly for what they are will hardly be possible. If I watch and read womens behavior on the Internet I come to some deep realizations about the nature of feminity. Yes Internet is not the real world but still you can see patterns. I am open to exploring that field. Unfortunately here are mostly men so it's a bit difficult. On the other hands in general women rarely show their true face so they would be instantly triggered and would probably protect their gender.

@theleelajoker everything is a narrative in your head. Harmful ? Every generalization can be harmful. "Pointing out the dangers of projections" You don't understand projections can also be very useful.

@Puer Aeternus well this topic is clearly triggering you.

@Hojo I mean manipulation tactics like greeting cards or birthdays wishes etc.

@Hojo actually there was a marketing research where customers reacted more positively even they know the friendlyness of the company was just an total act. Something in our brain will still be manipulated even if we see through the act women play. But yeah some women with their baby voice are doing it too much.

@Puer Aeternus "You talk only of ideas that feed your own narrative" Yes so I share it here for discussion, everyone can agree or disagree. So what's wrong with that exactly? It's very important to understand the feminine part in human. If you dismiss that or if you are triggered by that ask yourself whats really going on with you, if you have some issues or something.

@theleelajoker I have started many other topics. You behave as if it is somehow forbidden to talk about a topic about a large group of humans. Or can you tell me why you are reacting so protective? Do you want to keep the image of a certain woman? Then this thread is not for you maybe. Again read my disclaimer.

@theleelajoker I am not here for helping women, I am not here to change anything. I am just observing nature and share it with you and see if it fits. It is very simple and direct. No hidden agenda. Why I choose women is because women are a big part of our reality we live in. I mean something different than you I am not new age. You mix here completely everything around. It's like starting a discussion about how crypto could have a comeback in the future and you come to me with "can't you see how you create the kind of impact on cryptos going up or down? Bitcoin is now over 100k , can't you see that you created that?" To be honest, It's annoying.

You are maybe the only active girl on this forum now amongst hundreds of men. All these topics besides off topic and relationship are pure manly. 99% of these threads you see on this forum are opened by men. An exception was the journal area, there women opened threads on their own so they can speak about themselves - one of the few things that matter to them. How do you feel here, do I represent general women correctly?

@Schizophonia I love you too.

Me too ! Normally without any of spiritual practices I get these weird tingly sensation only if I am overwhelmed by something (positive or negative). It's very enjoyable.

I know instantly what's valuable. I don't need 10 hours watching. I can sense it and as I watched Leo's video about enlightenment, I knew that this was gold. As he introduced psychedelics I was so hooked I tried in the end every substance out he talked about (2 CB is the only one I missed). Before that I was not interested in drugs at all. In the end I have showed this channel to a friend but he had zero interest. He watched in the end some hours alone and came to the conclusion that Leo is just some grifter guru. Overall it was a waste of time and energy. Don't force ignorant people to this stuff.

Exactly.

@Razard86 ok thanks, I understand your position better now.

@theleelajoker "Deeply knowing" what's going is probably a feeling, an intuition as you describe it." No not a feeling, not an intuition. It's something like that what you described. A recognition.

@TheEnigma this is too vague. I know many cases where psychedelics are very helpful in that situation. And rare cases where not. But it depends so much on the personality and so on. You need also some intelligence.

Chatgpt4 knows. Psychedelics raise consciousness by disabling your brain’s usual filters, increasing neural complexity, and revealing the deeper structure of mind and reality.

@Razard86 with the help of Chatgpt4 I answer to you. Please read exactly where the issue ist. Please stay open minded, don't skip with your head. I try to tell you something . I hope with Chatgpt4 you understand my position finally: I see where you're coming from. You're speaking from a radical nondual solipsistic paradigm where only direct experience exists, and everything else is imagination. I get that – and I respect the inner logic of it. But here’s the thing: just because something is not within my current experience doesn't logically imply it cannot exist. That would be conflating epistemology with ontology. You're saying: “If you can't confirm it, it's just a belief.” True – I can't confirm it. But not being able to confirm something doesn't mean it's false or non-existent. It simply means: I don't know. I prefer to stay in that space of radical not-knowing rather than collapsing everything into the assumption that I am the only reality. That, too, is just a belief – unless proven. I'm not denying the possibility that I am the only God and you are not conscious only my perspective exists. But I’m open to the possibility that other Gods might exist too – just outside the reach of my current conscious dream (by the way Leo did that too, I don't know his actual view on that). So the difference is: I don’t claim it must be true. I hold open the mystery. You close the mystery with total certainty.

@Mmartinez28 I think you misunderstand the whole thing. We are right now discussing his insights and our own. What exactly does it matter if we discuss insights he didn't have in this one video listed. That video was years ago. It's not actual. Also you should not see his insights as fixed they can change.

@theleelajoker my definition of awake is deeply knowing what's going on right here right now on an existential level. With that I don't mean of course how much bliss you have. Just knowing what's true right now. It's a deep recognition. It's way more than being in the now no last no future etc. Way more deeper.

@Mmartinez28 I don't understand what you mean. He posted a video about primary insights in the many facets of awakening enlightenment video. Then after that he had some new profound awakenings with new primary insights. They are then not in the list of his old video. Now you say his old video is the state of the art and he cannot have new primary insights after that? I don't understand you.

@Ishanga @theleelajoker I use drastically words to show you how far away your understanding from awakening really is. It's not even drastically enough because you still don't get it. Yes I am not total awake but pretty much on another level. How I know that? Because I was on your level too, before I used psychedelics. Psychedelics kicked me out of low level spirituality. Yoga could do that too. But it was psychedelics in my case. No awakening is not about bliss. Bliss comes as a side effect or not at all. Stay natural but you will probably not get far if you are not talented. Yes psychedelic experiences fade away and you get back to almost normal but you experienced states of consciousness way deeper than you can imagine and you will not forget that deep inside you. It's like saying I don't want to visit the moon,why? it's just a temporary fading experience and after visiting the moon I am back on earth. The truth is, you will be forever changed if your consciousness level is intelligent enough. By the way I am not telling here that psychedelics are better than natural practices. It's just that some "naturals" here who are just blind and ignorant dismiss the value psychedelics can offer.

@Razard86 how about multiple experiences. Experiences outside of me which I cannot experience. Just because I cannot experience them doesn't mean it cannot exist. It will never exist in my experience because then it's my experience I get that. But from a meta view there can be an experience outside my experience. It's not that simple but on your first 4 points I think everyone here agrees and understands that.

@Leo Gura So you remain open to the possibility that, within your imagined field, there could emerge beings who possess their own conscious field like you—just beyond your reality, yet synchronized with it by God's will? @Xonas Pitfall