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@ValiantSalvatore I mean you judge about people from another country and dont understand them at all. Thats no surprise because you grew up in another culture. I just mean with "I am german" that I can tell you I understand germans and their history in ww1/ww2 more than you. Because I live in this country, I know my culture, my relatives all were heavy involved in this. This is no offence, just a fact I want to tell you. You dont need to believe me I dont care I just want to tell you have some deep misunderstandings and projections about germans, german history and Hitler (but that's understandable)

@ValiantSalvatore hey if this topic is sensitive to you we can cut here. I was never angry to you, just confused about your writing style. It's very uneasy to read, I just want facts from you also. No Personal feelings please and none of your projections to me (like being angry or being blue or whatever) Just I told you I am german, my relatives had direct contact to Hitler and had major positions. I know a lot no one knows.

@ValiantSalvatore sorry I cannot understand what you write, I tried it. Can you write more clear sentences? Hitler was in a spiritual group and had ego loss experiences, threw a woman the steps down? In Japan? My english is not the best What I wrote, I just feel you misunderstood completely what I was saying and bring a lot of your own projection into this discussion. What is important here in this discussion how I feel about Hitler personally? You feel compassion for him because you saw he was trapped in his own mind? And now you think you have some deep understanding? A 14 years old Teen would think thats deep

I heard DPT is a great music Enhancer. For me 5 meo dmt afterglow was already a godlike music Enhancer. Can DPT be used in small doses for recreational usage like hearing music/watching movies? I dont want to be mindfucked right now

@ValiantSalvatore Can you elaborate what you mean that he spoke with no-self? If you find him funny and ask how germans were so stupid to follow him, then you lack understanding on what devastating situation germany were back then before hitler came to power and how he rised germany out of nothing to a super power. Also the propaganda back then was something complete new and very advanced. To call Hiter a coward is also a bit silly, he gave really his life to become the leader of germany. I dont want to tell you what sacrifices and risks he made to become the leader of germany. But what I can tell you, if he would not became leader germany he would killed himself for sure. He also was constantly in danger to be killed. Over 40 assassinations were planned to kill him. ALso every war he startet was an all or nothing part. He was ALL IN all the time. To call him a coward shows me that you dont understand him at all.

@Insane butterfly Sounds amazing, on which dose happend that expanding event? Did you plug it? I will hear classic music on it, after the trip wears off is the best time to hear music or in the peak?

@ValiantSalvatore I am from germany and therefore more historical background than you about Hitler. Yes it's true he used drugs. Also he was into magic, one of his most readed book was about doing magic. But the rest you wrote, I can say you underestimate Hitler completely. He was not a joke even till the ends of germany he had a extraordinary sharp mind and was not lost or something. It was not luck at all that this man became leader of germany

@Girzo whats scary about body load? I never was scared of any body load. The harder the better. Only when it gets wonky and I loose location and mind goes completely still then I get nervous. But dont know if this counts to body load

@Sincerity Yeah or merging Philosophy sub with spirituality. They go together

@Leo Gura ok sounds like a combination of datura and 5 meo mipt to me after some Research. I will experiment in low doses

@Barna the forum would drie out with more Division. The Division between spiritual theme and psychedelics was the biggest

@Leo Gura Yeah ok then maybe it is like 5 meo dmt in it's seriousness? Not here not there... This sounds creepy My goal is to experience music on another level. If low dose can do that without going serious, this would be awesome

@Ima Freeman right because most Mdma users combine it with other substances And the dose is very important

@Nilsi@Nilsi control your words here. enjoying beauty is a part of my spiritual process. I get deep insights from consuming Media,especially music and that is a more recreational usage of psychedelics

I dont like Scientology at all from what I heard, still I am curious about their techniques and insights about human psyche. They could have good insights or already known stuff about spirituality. So I ask if anyone here had studied their stuff and got some value? I know this topic existed some years ago but I ask again out of curiosity.

@Rahra they took Buddhismus and gave this a new scientific esoterik terminology. So it will be more appealing for westerners

@Matthew85 what did you Do in that hour, something paranormal happened?

Woah Yeah this sounds like you have been through a challenging Trip. It sounds like my first lsd Trip. Same dose, and I wanted ego death. But after 3 to 4 hours I felt something serious will happen and I was very nervous. I stand up and went to the garden. There it kicked in, I felt like something is putting me to the ground, I was loosing myself. I got more nervous and then I was just Jogging around my Block, taking a shower and Jogging again. I repeated that for hours. I recognized that I dont move at all as consciousness which was depressing. Many more things happened, too much to tell here

@Bob Seeker you can transform your brain too with a lot of 5 meo and malt trips. He might be sensitive but I know two people who are even more sensitive to psychedelics than him so this Sensitivity is not very special, but this alien mind thing is indeed

@Lenny_ what Was happening on your lsd trip

@Kingston hey just start with 3 mg. Worst case is that it was too low and you wasted 3 mg and need to wait an hour to raise the dose. Thats nothing to think about really..

@Rafael Thundercat https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6131656/ Thats all speculation why neurogenesis happens, no one knows why

@Kingston report please and stick the syringe 3 to 4 cm into your ass, this is very important. "The area with the most absorption is located in the anal canal, starting approximately 1.5 - 2.8 cm before the exit and continuing on in for another 1 or 2 cm. This special area with the most rapid absorption is from within the anal canal via its highly vascular mucous membrane that is divided into folds or pillars, known as anal columns above the Pectinate line in the anal canal (see diagram of rectum). Drugs can and will also be absorbed via the walls of the rectum but not at anywhere near the rate afforded by the anal columns. With most people and standard size 1ml oral syringes the syringe will inserted approximate one half way (or just a little less) and that will be more than precise enough."

@Lila9 they just look for an enemy.i dont think they mean that seriously. It's all about group bonding and mental ill people have probably bad experiences from psychiatric institutions so scientology gives them an alternative It's all so sad. Scientology is so old school no one can take them seriously today I think. At least in germany

@Kingston @Kingston make 2 to 3 rounds if you Experiment the first times. After 1 to two hours you can raise the dose Start with 3 mg. Then 4,5 mg then 6 mg and see how you react. Remember when your heart beat raises fast and loud this is total normal ego defense and in 20 minutes it is over. No panic Ah one extra tip, Do breathing exercises like pranayama before 5 meo for 10 minutes or so to calm you down if you feel too nervous