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@eduardo ceccarelli sounds like yes, but man, be carfeful, there is infinitely more

@Harvey Energy is a good symbolic word to see that all the trillions of bits are really not seperate. Beyond that it can be preventative, as the truth beyond the One “energy” is nothing and everything at once, now, You. “Energy” thinking tends to be sexy and draw focus to one’s self as past, present, future, and separation, in the sneakiest of ways. Nothing is happening, not even energy.

What Adyashanti didn’t include in that quote is that untruth is the root of suffering. Self actualize to the top of the Maslow pyramid so enlightenment is atleast accessible to you. If you reach that place in our process, and aren’t happier, I guess I’d have to take you at your word.

@IAmJohn Let go of the idea of being a better person. Look for consistent joy instead. Trust your inner guidance. Tune into it and listen to it, take it’s direction above all thinking. If something feels less that joy, let alone terrible, then stop!, sit, and let go of that thought tree, plant another ‘wanted’ seed, breath, be patient. With regards to addiction to the experience of her - addiction is the opposite of connection. Look to her, or anyone else, for joyful experiences, not connection. Connect within, alone. Everyone is either asking for love or giving love. The experience as an entity giving love is pure consistent joy. It is selflessness, as in, the focus point is loving, not a thing that is receiving. Surrender your self in exchange for the experience. There is an experience of whole in no self, pure bliss. But to get there, there is an experience of the practices. This is the way to discover what you really are is whole already. You don’t need anything or anyone. Let them be the icing on the cake.

@Drum Teacher congrats on improving your life through the practices! ?. Are you getting enough sleep? Are you waking up earlier because you’re excited for what the day will bring, or stressed and having trouble sleeping? I find a relationship between letting go & being now, and needing less food & sleep, but I don’t want to assume and project.

@Adam M music to my ears! Thanks for sharing the experience. ❤️ I just assume that I'm doing a good job because it seems like I am having a physical reaction to my ruthless questioning... I can literally feel my sense of "I" getting very defensive and trying to distract the inquiry with body sensations. I would look into those bold I’s.

A simpler visual representation.. thinking, thinking, thinking, thinking, thinking, thinking, thinking, thinking, thinking, thinking, meditation, thinking, thinking, thinking, thinking, meditation, thinking, thinking, thinking, meditation, thinking, thinking, meditation, thinking, meditation, thinking, meditation, meditation, thinking, meditation, meditation, thinking, meditation, meditation, meditation, thinking, meditation, meditation, meditation, meditation, thinking, meditation, meditation, meditation, meditation, meditation, meditation, meditation, meditation, meditation, meditation, meditation, samadhi, holy shit it was me all along.

I think (just a thought) that picking our own thoughts is at the top of Maslow’s pyramid, and the way to go, even though it is ultimately illusory. Personal thought accountability & ownership is on the path to samadhi. It begins to allow possibilities like enlightenment, by shedding the weight & confusion of unwanted thoughts. Then we can start to decipher illusion & reality. I’m seeing people suffer so much by sticking with perspectives that they don’t even enjoy. That feeling should be taken as one hell of a blatant divine direction. I don’t see where it behooves us to be stubborn.

@egoless after enough practices and pyschadelics (if you want), what you’ll see is that you are the assigner of ALL meaning. You are not in the illusion, the illusion is in you. So, you are creating your shroom experience. You always have been. If this is where you’re head is at, you don’t have a solid foundation in place yet, so you should be more disciplined in your daily practices and lifestyle before shrooming. I know this is harsh, but I’m playing the role of the dickish guy who is putting your well being first.

@cle103 Might be received as a bold comment to your inquiry, but, there is truth or there is ignorance. We are all picking one or the other. To me, this is synonymous with love & flow, vs, being lost in the current created by those less ignorant. Ignorance of the truth is sustained by denial of self, and that is suffering. I would consider that you created beliefs about what the truth is, and those beliefs can be shed. That’s the process really, the transcendence of belief prisons. When we begin to have the knowledge that this takes tremendous practice and patience, the ego tends to try to erode the experience.

@eskwire I was born, I’m alive, I will die, there is a God, I am a seperate entity, God is a seperate entity, the laws of physics are consistent, I am alone, I am not alone, the laws of quantum phycsics are consistent, anything exists beyond my awareness, something is real, something is not real, something exists, something does not exist, I am God, I am not God, I am judged, I am the judge, there is no judge, there is an objective reality, there is no objective reality, I am conditioned, I am not conditioned, my expression and experience of love is filtered, it is unfiltered, my happiness if contingent, not contingent, I love conditionally through self, I love unconditionally. That would be a good start.

@phoenix666 Glad to hear you’re doing well! Sounds like we eat pretty much the same foods. I eat a lot of raw meal protein shakes too. My ‘wait...what?’’ Reference was meant more towards the distinctions of illusion and reality, not contemplation of life direction. The concern perspective is what needs to be let go of. It’s rooted in the illusion of gains and losses. In transcencence of the illusion is all the relief and joy that can fit “into a person”, so to speak. The wants and doing of things will carry on, but the paradigm of desire and concern will not. When I suggested the columns exercise, that was more the direction I had in mind. It serves to see that all pressure, all stress, is created by ourselves, as is the entire illusion. The practices are of joy, not success. Ironically, this builds a foundation for incredible, and more enjoyable, ‘success’. That is ‘the now’, imo. The moment and experience of it as it actually is, rather than experienced through a thought tree of life perspective.

@phoenix666 i feel like I understand and imo it sure has expansion written all over it. That’s awesome. When you say you find you’re doing things for the end result, and finding that demotivating, I have to say that you don’t strike me as someone who is doing things for the materialistic end result. You seem past that consciousness wise. I think the deep life contemplation is great, and I think you actually like the desire to do things simply for the experience of it, and the future experiences that are enabled by what you’ve been doing. Maslow comes to mind. That pyramid is always in play. No one gets to the top and is ‘set for life’. When I lose my motivation, I do a semiconscious pyramid check, and I have found, for me, 100% of the time, I did not sleep well, eat well, meditate well, exercise well - or I have simply shifted my focus from what I want, to what I don’t want. The practices are the foundation to the perspective. That’s my pyramid, and I have found it to be perfectly reliable. Food is my master, it is never confused, which helps me see my confusion. When we Wake Up, there’s a period of ‘wait...what?’ And it takes a while. Consciousness raises slowly and the brain and body change much slower in response. Around the corner from ‘there is nothing to accomplish’, is a place of no pressure while working in a boiler room, no worry or anxiety while walking a tight rope, no jitters while singing for a crowd - no suffering while in this world. I think you’re getting knee deep into actual real freedom. It’s a process. That’s solid work, and I still suggest going deeper with the distinctions. Look around you right now. Look in the mirror. Where did you come from really? Are you alive really? That’s the kind of stuff I’m talking about. This may sound counterintuitive, but the best distinctions to make, are of one’s self.

@How to be wise whatever it takes.

I think if the title of this post were changed to understanding paradigms by example, it would be top notch.

@AleksM that’s Like 30g’s of awesomeness. Thanks!

@Blissout ya. It’s all relative. Byron is right, and also the lady asking the questions would not be asking them had she been practiced.

@AleksM nostalgic! Thanks! Great video.

I’m right here in the middle of nowhere.

@Immortal peace brave af.

@pluto very often

@egoless The only resolve, it that everything is you.

@Spider Jerusalem Question everything. Question who what and why is there anything to question and anything to even question it. The movie ‘The Game’ comes to mind, but relatively speaking, it’s such a tiny reference. I don’t know if there is a reference parallel to the absolute mindfuck you cued up now and are experiencing now. Even the word “You” is just mind blowing any way you use it. I find it true to say the Truth is what you’re seeking, and the challenge is we typically must rule everything out in a reality that has no truth at all in it. Like everything! You even have to rule yourself out, and yet, that’s where the Truth is found. Somewhere in the end of that process a very deep “holy shit” starts to surface, and then the big flip, and then you’re dead, and also not dead for the first time, and then there is no time, and you’re not alive either. Blissful though.

If you want, take a look at the paper and tell me which things in which categories give you the uneasy feeling. It’s hard to say anything without some info.

@phoenix666 this thread has me laughing and smilin. Thanks! And....it really is the ultimate ‘when you see it, you’ll shit bricks’.