Nahm

@Key Elements Yes!❤️

I believe in myself.

@Key Elements the containment is illusory.

I must still be missing something. When someone becomes enlightened, they know their authentic self...the One...no?

Use it to experience it. Set a solid intention before going to sleep. Write it on the wall. Look at it. Feel it. Report back when you awake the ‘next day’, if you’re willing to play. ?

@Moreira they’re your meanings.....unless...

Self correction....allow it....keep silent....it’ll correct your whole life.

What if all science degree’s were a minor to a major in Self? ???

@abrakamowse good questions man. what “they conclude” is a distraction. The work is your own experience. That's The way.

@Maxx ? separate...?

@Joseph Maynor Good mornin! This caught my attention...can you elaborate a little?.... “You can be deeply enlightened and still be clueless about your authentic-self.”

@Ilya you don’t hit a wall, you hit a question. Find the answer to that question, contemplate it. A new question will surface. Repeat.

@krazzer beautiful. When you see the cosmic ‘why’, bricks will be shat. ?

@AdamDiC thinking engages the illusion, more thinking more worry. Meditation slows the thinking, consciousness shifts towards awareness. Identity shifts from human you, to the real you. If you want to be yourself all the time, it can only be the true self. Keep your meditation going daily. Whatever’s on your mind that’s blocking some of your ‘connection’ will surface. There must be something, maybe a pending outcome, that you’re overly concerned about, and holding onto a view that is not wanted.

The tree is God guys.

@egoless he knows his Self. He looked there. When you see your Self, you can readily see a lot about other people. Things they themselves are completely unaware of.

@Serge One & illusion. You are the One.

No spiritual work being done here.

This might help with effectiveness http://www.asianefficiency.com/goals/5-steps-setting-goals/

@BjarkeT as you grew up and experienced things, you identified with reactions, and made up a character called “you”. “You” - likes this, not that, “You” is good at this, not that. You’re with them, not them, etc. But there is no past, it is always now. So you’re here, now. You always have been. You can do whatever you want. That perspective of doubt, it’s a pile of beliefs, an idea of who you are. That’s the ego. It’s the door you made to the real you. Open it by realizing it’s made up. Surrender it. Study your situation like a mad scientist to see wtf is around you. In actuality you don’t even exist. That’s how free you are right now to do whatever you want. Unless you maintain belief in an ego. Hope that’s helpful. Seems like you’re really tryin to see it. ??

@iss100 every ‘thing’ including every thought, is relative. The difference in experiencing the ‘tasks’ of life, no matter how big or small we are imagining them to be, is that separation from thinking & awareness, the transition from thinking to awareness, from me to the paper cup, from man to no-man, from mind to no mind. The sense of struggle disappears because no relative result could possibly feel as good as the One experience / perspective. Adults all turn back into kids, work becomes play, challenge becomes opportunity & expansion - when infinite potentiality perceives it’s own matrix of relativity for what it isn’t, “my life” is not at all what it appeared to be. It is simply an entry point into nothing. IMO, you are creating your life. Be patient and stay on the path you’re on. What you want is happening. Be sure to be honest within regarding any resistant thought. Honest in identifying it. What you want, your life purpose, that’s your dream, and there is nothing (which is everything) and there is your thinking, which it self is the resistance, the distinctions, that allow for a ‘life’ and a ‘life purpose’. I think one day you will have an experience that reveals the ego can indeed die, and yet here you will still be. I have had that experience, and everyday when I wake up, I am alive and I am not alive. I died, so I can’t be alive. I’m alive, so I can’t be dead. I get to experience the rest of this life, dead. It is impossible, yet it Is. There is no suffering - I’m dead!! “Anger is a gift” -Zack De La Rocha (It shows me my resistant thoughts.)

@Shanmugam I love what you wrote. I’m still waiting for your book to arrive from amazon. There may very well be a whole chapter about this..but for now I hope you don’t mind if I just ask. - Have you experienced what I guess I would call ‘inconsistent reality’? Obviously I need to define that a little, but it’s very relative to experience. Normal days to one can sound like crazy claims to another. Something like the sky visually ‘opening’ and something other than sky coming ‘out of it’, ufo’s, utilities and or electronic devices doing things that are not at all logical and completely abruptly inconsistent with relativity? (Not while on psychedelics) Any of that action happenin in Shanmugam town?

@eputkonen thanks for taking the time to share what you did. I experienced some insights while reading it on the distinctions I’ve made with words / meanings, in terms of - I hold some strict definitions - and holding them itself isn’t assisting me in terms of communication involved in helping someone else. I don’t know personally (outside of the forum) know anyone who has practiced meditation for years. A handful of people in my life have asked me about my mood, mental state, ‘progress in life’, whatever, what I “do” to feel the way I feel, and I always recommend the practices. I think, for a while, I might ask if they want to know what they are or not, and just leave it at that, and maybe that is an ‘entry point’ for assisting / deducing use of my energy. I want to experience that communication and collect the experiences from it. I see a lot of suffering, and I do see that meditation can ease it, but I am open and contemplating that ‘style’ without the basis of self inquiry, meditation might reduce suffering, but it might be likely it will just continue to surface. I realized a few years ago, I was choosing to live out my life in this bliss, or I was going to attempt to do that and help others. Then I realized my path is of course, both, as ‘others’ are no more or less me, than Nahm. So I think I’m learning the importance of ‘meeting them where they’re at’. I’m rambling...lol.... the point is, thanks!! And any thoughts and insights from you are more than welcome. One more thank you....I had a little more insight into my lack of distinctions between enlightenment, self actualization, and life purpose. Just a little, but a little there is a lot. Thanks!

@Shin do you know of any such people? I do not. @eputkonen Do you?

@Shanmugam lot of wisdom. Lot of conflation too.