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@The White Belt It’s really the same, but their forum has an upvote button. ? ...and one is belief in dogma, the other is self inquiry, meditation, and contemplation, primarily. “Our Truth”, vs “One’s own Truth”.

@Buba nothing will be the same, and Nothing will be the same.

@Buba There’s only one way to find out.

@expeditus From only having your post to go on, it sounds like you’re making a case for moving on. What is it that you’re afraid of?

@JohnLeyo both

@star ark Been there! Don’t sweat it. Even Einstein could articulate it, and formulate aspects of close proximity to it, but unfortunately (as far as I know) he never experienced it. The wisest book, is the one that when you open it, the center inside has been carved out, and someone put shrooms inside. Read that one.

I think what you guys were saying there, in the last 40 minutes, was also funny and I liked it.

@SaltyMeatballs Your avatar name reminds me of the chocolate salty balls song. ? You’re going gangbusters on thinking & solving, and maybe that approach has added the gravity of your whole life, on your mind. The answers don’t come from the illusion, they come from the source. They’re not hammered and forced into place. The powerful stuff is subtle. I would do something you enjoy. Something fun. Loosen up, relax. Let thinking about your life go for a day and get feeling good! Then, I would write what you want on a piece of paper, and sit and meditate. An answer, or direction, or way to go on this, will bubble up and you can even let each bubble go, and a better idea bubbles up behind it. If you want to discover what you love, you should consider that it comes from being in a state of mind that is of the same.

@star ark I’m an absolute kind of guy too ❤️ When I was younger, meaning wise, absolute to me referenced logic, rationality, “proof”, science, etc. Now it’s the whole, the Self. So maybe just consider a reversal of perspective - that you wouldn’t be ‘dissassociating’ - you would be associating with the ‘real’ you. Then when you get to work, it’s apparent everyone’s in a big ol hurry, slammin their hamster wheels into each other, and you’re taking more in, and time is slower for you, and doing less actually becomes more productive. May sound counterintuitive, but, maybe that’s a good sign.

@star ark imagine I ‘liked’ your post and made that comment and it revealed a lighter tone, almost humorous. You can most definitly be bodyless. The steps I mentioned are prior to the disappearing. Then breathing gets minimum on it’s own. I have no words for how worthwhile it is. It’s like non-gravity feeling, or weightlessness, or flying without movement or the sensation of air. Awesome way to start the day. Also, for what it’s worth, it doesn’t seem like ‘deep meditation’ to me. It seems like the ongoings of my day, with thinking, interacting, etc, are deep or heavier, and the meditation is light or nothingness.

@star ark I think you’re projecting, and you want to feel my body.

@Martin123 Thank you.

@star ark Not in my experience atleast. Takes some number of days to get to but then it’s repeatable everyday.

I do this daily. I think daily meditation and in the morning are key. Takes a while to acclimate. While maintaining focus on stomach breathing, I do waves of deep muscle relaxation, over and over, head to toe.

I think the recently added jokes were funny, and I like them.

@Joseph Maynor I don’t think it’s flat or dimensional. I think the observed and the observer are both made of illusionary spacetime, and to create the illusion of depth and distance, time becomes space, and space becomes time.

Ya. I was getting some depth self awareness in that also. Just, kinda, boring now (in that regard).

@DocHoliday thanks

@DocHoliday Maybe the body can’t because it is, but the mind can because it isn’t (illusionary). Or maybe more specifically there’s the absolute and the illusion, and “experience” is a word for inbetween.

@DocHoliday @Joseph Maynor What do you guys make of the space & time relationship, and what does that have to do with the speed of light? I think time and space are working together as one ‘substance’ to make an illusion of dimensions that gives a consistent appearance to one observer, and the speed of light is the absolute, or origination that ensures or “projects” this, resulting in the experience of appearance of multiple observers. Like, some ‘parts’ are more fundamental, or happen previous, than others and the overall experience flows in only one direction; absolute, light, spacetime, experience of “reality”. Physically, we wouldn’t be able to be outside of the illusion because we couldn’t be beyond the absolute ( immediately prior to the speed of light) Mind wise though, if we are the absolute, we can be outside the illusion. Whatcha think?

@Girzo excellent report man. Thanks for sharing!

@FeelFree Came from open mindedness.

I just had the time.

@DocHoliday ?. (If this is your idea of fun, also). What is that I which refers to that me?