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@Thanatos13 You haven’t seen shit yet. That’s why you’re afraid. I know the void well. Don’t tell me about the void.? You did psychedelics, tasted the barrier / void. That’s huge, but you stopping working on yourself, because you think you saw the whole show. You did not. You’re not going to see beyond that void without doing the innerwork like the rest of us. Smart does not count for shit on this map. Let that go. Right does not count for shit either, it’s the very thing that prevents you. If you weren’t intellectualizing the hell out of things, I think you’d realize that the path has always been within. The work to be done, is clearing the path WITHIN. That thing you fuckin hate in your life. - pull your head outta your ass, put the rage against the machine on, and get it going. GET GOING. In other posts this would sound boastful, but I’ve been to the void many times in just the last year. I have been ‘beyond’ it. I know the territory you’re having trouble with. I’m trying to give a map. Take note, I am asking for nothing in return. No church to join, no charity to donate to, and I obviously don’t give a shit wether you think I’m “right” or not. LOL! Think about that. What possible motive could I have??? Love is nothing to fear. Not if you’re going to get this done. You got out of Kansas, but you never made it to Oz, let alone, to see the wizard. There is SO much more. You can’t go to Oz with bags of shit. You do the work, the practices every day. You don’t slouch, you learn, every day. If you need to cry, then cry. If you need a punching bag go get one. But, get going dude. Our clocks are ticking.

@Preetom Yeah. Thank God for that man.

@Alien we all are. Lol ?

@Preetom whoaahhh! Slow down. That’s awesome, but self inquiry is king. It’s will change your reality in the most literal sense. I mean literally, could you imagine REALITY, that consistent physical reliable everything - no longer being that? Becoming MAGIC!? COuld you even imagine that! That is the call of self inquiry and nothing else will do that. I’ll get off the soap box now, just had to say that. LOL. Sorry.

@Thanatos13 You undermined yourself, shot yourself in the foot, long ago, and now you are feeling the effects of it. You fell for some philosophy about this “nothingness” this “void”. All you have to do, is admit to yourself, that you have not actually ever experienced this “nothingness” this “void”. You constructed an idea of it in your head, and you are believing that idea. It’s just an idea, it holds no value, no weight, and it is FLAT OUT WRONG. What’s you have missed, because you have not experienced the “void” for yourself, is that it is not a void of nothingness. It is SO much more than that. Can you admit this error to yourself though? That’s the only question. When you do, you’ll be free of it. Then, day by day, things will get better. Be wrong. It’s deliciously liberating. Choose yourself, choose you happiness... who cares about being right? Thinking you’re right that it’s all this meaningless void of nothingness - that’s just some bullshit you got from some shithead, it’s unequivocally wrong. When a master refers to God as Nothing, it is because they have experienced God, and they know what you do not. Don’t mistake their meaning for “Nothing” to be your meaning for “Nothing”. Before you type and spout off about how right you are about your nihilism, just pause for like literally one minute first. A MINUTE, that’s all I’m asking. I know you got a minute bro. This path you’re on blows dude. It fucking blows. It’s taken you straight into the depression. I know this because I did the same exact thing. You’re doing it, and it feels terrible because you think it’s the fault of the reality you are in. It’s not. It’s your fault. Stop bullshitting yourself. Begin to free your mind instead. There is a man on youtube named Les Brown. Just sit and listen to him. You can do this. You can do anything you want. You just need a little help in seeing this is already the case. Want for yourself man. You deserve to be happy, you deserve joy in your heart, you are worthy of everything. Whole Universe got your back, all you have to do is take one step.

@Alien Anything you’ll ever want or do, is because you think it will make you feel better, be happier. Don’t fall for the thinking! You can feel better and be happier right now, and then enjoy the shit out of everything you do. Might need to slow down any thinking which suggests otherwise. Meditation will do that in spades.

@Preetom Kinda seems simple now, right? Like, extraordinary?

@kieranperez Ask and It is Given, Ester Hicks. How to Think and Grow rich, Napoleon Hill. And don’t judge a book, until you’ve read it for yourself. You got this. Withdrawal is the worst. The worst. It’s all better and better after the withdrawal.

@Sopot Universe is giving you everything and you’re not accepting, really, any of it. It’s laying out a potential for you to go to college, become a teacher, and change the level of education of your city, and your country...and you’re like, meh. Universe is showing you how easily distracted you are by other students, and eluding to the power of developing your focus through practices, to be able to reach and help those students as a teacher, to inspire them to the call for their own development, their own reasons and life purposes for doing the practices - that they can wake up and really be alive and love the pursuit of their dream....and you’re all like....meh...maybe. Universe is whispering these things to you. Listen. Don’t wait for it to yell. It will. You can count on it, because the universe is you, and you brought yourself here, and you got your back. You’ll do anything to wake you up and get you going on what your purpose is. No need to yell at yourself dude. The whisper is enough, just let it be.

@Thanatos13 What if you argued for your happiness?

@Alien It’s the ‘make a living from it’ thoughts. You’re makin one 15 minute meditation as big as your life purpose. Can’t do that man, it’ll snap ya right outta the now. Gotta snap back in! That’s the baggage, or resistant thinking. Let that go completely. See that meditation is paradoxical, in that, when you drop the attachment of making money from meditation, spirituality, waking folks up in general - then - I’m be damned, that, is exactly where meditation will take you. Meditate just for the awesomeness of clearing your head, do it simply for the now of it, just to be present. The answer, is in a big way, always to let go of what we want. Later on, yet soon enough, it strolls into our lives. Universe is funny. Feels good to let go of that mental baggage, right? Hell ya it does.

@Preetom On point! Great post.

@Truth Addict How long have you being doing daily meditation? What other practices have you been doing? I wouldn’t meditate to get to enlightenment. Eventually, you’ll have little to no monkey mind, then no chatter in there at all. At that point, take a trip, or buckle down with the practices for the long haul. If someone has yet to have an enlightenment experience, and it trying to, that is the mind pushing it’s agenda, in a sneaky way, but the mind is pushing a concept or idea of something it has no experience of, thus confirming a falsity, and keeping the actual experience away. You could be looking at years of practices, even with trips. It’s very worth it, imo.

@Speedscarlet There have been some forum members, a couple fairly recently who took a trip there. Check out the trip reports, try the search tool too, should find a few. Also, here’s an article that I think is insightful. I have not ‘been there’ myself. f you make it there, please get back to me regarding my wife’s lost wedding ring. Thanks! ? http://www.akashicrecordsofsouls.com/read-akashic-records/

@spicy_pickles Great that there is release happening. Do you meditate every morning? For how long? And how long have you been doing daily meditation for? ?

@egoless That’s so awesome to hear. So happy for ya!

@Ilya DO. THE. PRACTICES. ❤️

@Ilya Forget the apple. What about, the word, life. What about the word, love. Practices. Awareness. Consciousness. No substitutes.

The theme for consciousness work is practices of awareness and self inquiry, it’s done alone, it has nothing to do with anyone else. I for one, do not see a general message from the forum to be less social. We may need to ‘go away for a while’ to do the inner work, we may need to get some distance from people who we have been suppressing our own suffering with, such as with alcohol, etc. But, as we do the work, all things societal are renewed. Awareness is good for everything! Consciousness work may make for a temporary hermit, if you will, but the long term point is not at all to be removed from society, unless of course, one wants to do this, like ‘live in a cave’. The point, is complete Self realization, and Self actualization - to be what you really are, to have the freedom of mind to create the life you actually want, to be without mental resistance, and living in the euphoric satisfaction of knowing you are living THE life you want, pursing what you want, having the quality of life you want, learning what you want, having the significant other that you have true love with, or being a completely free bird if that is what’s wanted - overall, to be unconditioned, and liberated. Go to the main categories page for the forum. Consider this when looking at the categories, from the bottom to the top. In a way, they are like a staircase. The parents situation is rough. My parents are not open to personal development, well being, etc. They are rock solid on Catholicism, prescriptions, and surgeries. It does nothing for them, but they aren’t coming out of the heaven / hell complex any time soon, likely never. They eat poorly, (lots of sugar), their weight has affected their health for many years, they don’t exercise, nor meditate. Their internaltizing and self talk is unhealthy. Their perspectives on each other, blame, etc, is unhealthy. Once and a while it even gets physical. I tried helping on any front for many years. Tried everything. The power of the ego in disregarding the consequences of it’s own actions, in terms of getting clarity and making some changes towards health, are astounding. I find it very true, as we see here on the forum, that all the answers and plenty of help, love, and encouragement are readily available. Yet, if someone is not ready to take a look at themselves, they will not. They will craft from their frame of reference to construct a wall around looking within. The ego uses these offerings as material to solidly it’s false existence, it’s own pretenses, paradigms, etc. The bottomless pit you referenced, that’s were I was headed with my parents. I came to a place where it was a tug of war between trying to help, being patient, compassionate...and them not changing a thing, health declining more, and me helping more. It could be consuming. There are things in place for this, social security disabity; couseling, in home care, etc. Where you put yourself, your amount of efforts and involvement, that’s a total one off. Only you can navigate that for yourself. Like anything, talking about it (like this), reading up on it, doing your practices - it all helps, and maybe even, the growth for you to experience is the extent you can not help someone who will not receive the help, nor help themselves. It’s grey and dynamic. It could drive one person into depression, and reveal a life purpose for another. Practices and awareness work, are where it’s at for you.

@Sahil Pandit ? slow & steady on the psych’s imo. Sounds like you’re playin it smart.

@egoless Puzzled is good, it is progress. If we don’t go through confusion, we’re not expanding. Of course if reality is perceived as real it would seem that it should not exist in that form, because in truth, it does not. Happy for you man. Practicing? I hope so.❤️

Awareness of the suffering of animals comes with more consciousness that I suffer. Awareness the suffering is not real comes with more consciousness that my own suffering was not real. Awareness the animals, and everything else, is a complete fabrication and illusion, of your own, and therefore letting all things just be as they are, comes with more consciousness, that there is no self.

@MarkusSweden This is a great example of how important the practices are. Awareness alone will resolve this. Your answer is right here, you just aren’t aware of it yet, because you haven’t had the corresponding experience of raising the awareness yet. don't try to tell me it doesn't exist, that I already know. But show must go on, the role must be played, now how do you feel about it? We do that all the time. That’s how deep self deception is. In sales, when a customer tells you “the one thing I won’t do”, they’re helping the salesperson out by letting them know the one thing that is their issue, or where they’re stuck. Same as when a person tells their therapist, “I don’t want to talk about that”, now the therapist knows where they’re stuck. So you have to reverse all engines, let go of the momentum of that state of question - and open up the mind. I think a helpful perspective would be - maybe, I have an understanding what no self means, but that meaning is limiting to my awareness, maybe this is why the practices are the theme. You discovered an inconsistency in your own life, now become aware of what it’s pointing to. Only practices will do that, short of a trip any time soon.

@Vingger Words hold no meaning, only distinctions from other words, we assign meanings (loop), we are makers of distinctions. . It can be helpful, to see that the illusion is all of one fabric, so to speak, so that which is not relative (absolute) shines light on the inherent short comings of nihilism: According to Derrida and taking inspiration from the work of Ferdinand de Saussure,[14] language as a system of signs and words only has meaning because of the contrast between these signs.[15][13]:7, 12 As Rorty contends, "words have meaning only because of contrast-effects with other words...no word can acquire meaning in the way in which philosophers from Aristotle to Bertrand Russell have hoped it might—by being the unmediated expression of something non-linguistic (e.g., an emotion, a sense-datum, a physical object, an idea, a Platonic Form)".[15] As a consequence, meaning is never present, but rather is deferred to other signs. Derrida refers to the—in this view, mistaken—belief that there is a self-sufficient, non-deferred meaning as metaphysics of presence. A concept, then, must be understood in the context of its opposite, such as being/nothingness, normal/abnormal, speech/writing, etc.[16][17]:26 Further, Derrida contends that "in a classical philosophical opposition we are not dealing with the peaceful coexistence of a vis-a-vis, but rather with a violent hierarchy. One of the two terms governs the other (axiologically, logically, etc.), or has the upper hand": signified over signifier; intelligible over sensible; speech over writing; activity over passivity, etc. The first task of deconstruction would be to find and overturn these oppositions inside a text or a corpus of texts; but the final objective of deconstruction is not to surpass all oppositions, because it is assumed they are structurally necessary to produce sense. The oppositions simply cannot be suspended once and for all. The hierarchy of dual oppositions always reestablishes itself. Deconstruction only points to the necessity of an unending analysis that can make explicit the decisions and arbitrary violence intrinsic to all texts.[17]:41 Finally, Derrida argues that it is not enough to expose and deconstruct the way oppositions work and then stop there in a nihilistic or cynical position, "thereby preventing any means of intervening in the field effectively".[17]:42 To be effective, deconstruction needs to create new terms, not to synthesize the concepts in opposition, but to mark their difference and eternal interplay. This explains why Derrida always proposes new terms in his deconstruction, not as a free play but as a pure necessity of analysis, to better mark the intervals. Derrida called undecidables—that is, unities of simulacrum—"false" verbal properties (nominal or semantic) that can no longer be included within philosophical (binary) opposition, but which, however, inhabit philosophical oppositions—resisting and organizing it—without ever constituting a third term, without ever leaving room for a solution in the form of Hegelian dialectics (e.g., différance, archi-writing, pharmakon, supplement, hymen, gram, spacing).[17]:19 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deconstruction

@Dan Arnautu Do you write songs? Just wondering. I write songs, just for me. Just for the process, the experience. It’s a ‘me’ place to go to, that’s really connective. Three chords and the truth are powerful.