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@Barbarian Number 8 lol. Just kiddin. Best thing ever.

@Barbarian Number 8 right on! Spouse & kids are the best. Always fun. Most of time. Well, a lot of the time. Sometimes. Once and awhile they’re great. I don’t know. They’re a lot of work. Jk

@Patang I feel like that’s what you said last time. Weird.

@Nana_Kh I find I can’t think, and focus on breathing from my stomach at the same time. So that’s something you can do anytime, anywhere. Here’s some practices too... Breathe Awareness Meditation Stress is an extremely unhealthy condition. It causes the body to release the chemical cortisol, which has been shown to reduce brain and organ function, among many other dangerous effects. Modern society inadvertently encourages a state of almost continuous stress in people. This is a meditation that encourages physical and mental relaxation, which can greatly reduce the effects of stress on the body and mind. Sit still and pay close attention to your breathing process. Take a reposed, seated posture. Your back should be straight and your body as relaxed as possible. Close your eyes, and bring your attention to your breathing process. Simply notice you are breathing. Do not attempt to change your breath in any way. Breath simply and normally. Try to notice both the in breath and the out breath; the inhale and the exhale. "Notice" means to actually feel the breathing in your body with your body. It is not necessary to visualize your breathing or to think about it in any way except to notice it with your somatic awareness. Each time your attention wanders from the act of breathing, return it to noticing the breath. Do this gently and without judgment. Remember to really feel into the act of breathing. If you want to go more deeply into this, concentrate on each area of breathing in turn. Here is an example sequence: 1. Notice how the air feels moving through your nostrils on both the in breath and the out breath. 2. Notice how the air feels moving through your mouth and throat. You may feel a sort of slightly raspy or ragged feeling as the air moves through your throat. This is normal and also something to feel into. 3. Notice how the air feels as it fills and empties your chest cavity. Feel how your rib cage rises slowly with each in breath, and gently deflates with each out breath. 4. Notice how your back expands and contracts with each breath. Actually feel it shifting and changing as you breath. 5. Notice how the belly expands outward with each in breath and pulls inward with each in breath. Allow your attention to fully enter the body sensation of the belly moving with each breath. 6. Now allow your attention to cover your entire body at once as you breath in and out. Closely notice all the sensations of the body as it breathes. Repeat this sequence over and over, giving each step your full attention as you do it. Suggested time is at least 10 minutes. Thirty minutes is better, if you are capable of it. If you find yourself distracted by a lot of mental chatter, you can use verbal labeling as an aid to concentration. For example, on the in breath, mentally say to yourself, "Breathing in." On the out breath, say, "Breathing out." Another possibility is to mentally count each breath. Awareness of Thoughts Meditation By learning to watch your thoughts come and go during this practice, you can gain deeper insight into thinking altogether (such as its transience) and into specific relationships among your thoughts and your emotions, sensations, and desires. This practice can also help you take your thoughts less personally, and not automatically believe them. Additionally, this meditation can offer insight into any habitual patterns of thinking and related reactions. Observe your thoughts as they arise and pass away. · By “thoughts,” we mean self-talk and other verbal content, as well as images, memories, fantasies, and plans. Just thoughts may appear in awareness, or thoughts plus sensations, emotions, or desires. · Sit or lie down on your back in a comfortable position. · Become aware of the sensations of breathing. · After a few minutes of following your breath, shift your attention to the various thoughts that are arising, persisting, and then passing away in your mind. · Try to observe your thoughts instead of getting involved with their content or resisting them. · Notice the content of your thoughts, any emotions accompanying them, and the strength or pull of the thought. · Try to get curious about your thoughts. Investigate whether you think in mainly images or words, whether your thoughts are in color or black and white, and how your thoughts feel in your body. · See if you notice any gaps or pauses between thoughts. · Every time you become aware that you are lost in the content of your thoughts, simply note this and return to observing your thoughts and emotions. · Remember that one of the brain’s major purposes is to think, and there is nothing wrong with thinking. You are simply practicing not automatically believing and grasping on to your thoughts. · When you are ready, return your attention to your breath for a few minutes and slowly open your eyes. Optional: · There are various metaphors and images you can use to help observe your thoughts. These include: o Imagining you are as vast and open as the sky, and thoughts are simply clouds, birds, or planes passing through the open space. o Imagining you are sitting on the side of a river watching your thoughts float by like leaves or ripples in the stream. o Imagine your thoughts are like cars, buses, or trains passing by. Every time you realize you are thinking, you can “get off the bus/train” and return to observing. Awareness of thoughts and emotions is one of the areas of focus developed when cultivating mindfulness. In Buddhism, mindfulness is one of the seven factors of enlightenment and the seventh instruction in the Noble Eightfold Path. (The Seven Factors of Enlightenment: https://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/piyadassi/wheel001.html) (The Noble Eightfold Path: https://tricycle.org/magazine/noble-eightfold-path/) CAUTIONS: Please be gentle with yourself if you notice that you are constantly caught up in your thoughts instead of observing them. This is both common and normal. When you realize that you are thinking, gently and compassionately return to observing your thoughts. If the content of your thoughts is too disturbing or distressing, gently shift your attention to your breathing, sounds, or discontinue the practice. · Remember that you are not trying to stop thoughts or only allow certain ones to arise. Try to treat all thoughts equally and let them pass away without engaging in their content. · This practice can initially be more challenging than other meditations. As you are learning, practice this meditation for only a few minutes at a time if that is easier. · It can be helpful to treat thoughts the same way that you treat sounds or body sensations, and view them as impersonal events that arise and pass away. · Some people like to assign numbers or nicknames to reoccurring thoughts in order to reduce their pull and effect. Posture Meditation This body-based meditation is a very effective way to get grounded and centered. It encourages an embodied, calm, and open awareness, and discourages disassociation. If you have a tendency to "leave your body," feel ungrounded, or disassociated, this is a good practice. Sit with your spine straight and aligned, and the rest of your body relaxed. Keep bringing yourself back to this condition. 1. Take a reposed, seated posture. 2. For this meditation, it is very important that your spine is straight. Your neck and back should be in perfect alignment. Your chin should be down very slightly. 3. If you are sitting in a chair, do not rest your spine against the chair. Sit forward so that your spine is supporting its own weight. Let the muscles of the spine be engaged. 4. All the other muscles of your body can be completely relaxed. Allow your face muscles to let go, and your jaw to drop slightly, so that your teeth are not touching. 5. Let your shoulders hang freely, and let your belly be soft and open. 6. This is the posture you are aiming for, with your spine erect and your body completely relaxed. 7. As you sit, keep bringing your awareness back to the fine details of your posture. Notice any time your spine slumps even slightly, your head leans to either side, or any other deviation. Correct these gently and repeatedly. 8. Also notice if any other areas of your body tense up even slightly. If anything is tensing, relax it in a gently and soft manner. 9. Keep checking in with the body, using your body (somatic) awareness; the feeling in your body. Mental images of your body will probably arise, which is fine, but these are not what you are concentrating upon. Instead, concentrate your awareness in the sense of your body. The sensitivity in your muscles, tissues, viscera, skin, and so forth. 10. The more detailed and minute you get with this awareness, the better. Each tiny area of the body has its own sensitivity to contribute. 11. Every once in a while you can zoom out to cover the entire somatosensory field -- the awareness of your entire body -- to bring the overall body back into alignment. 12. Keep relaxing every muscle everywhere. Use just enough tension to keep your spine erect, but no more. 13. Continue this meditation for at least 10 minutes, continuously contacting your body awareness. CAUTIONS: If you have any spinal injuries or severe back pain, it is fine to allow your spine to rest in a pain-free position. If you find yourself distracted by a lot of mental chatter, you can use verbal labeling as an aid to concentration. For example, when checking on the spine, you can say to yourself, "spine in alignment." When checking on the body, say, "body relaxed." Resource for different meditations: https://sites.google.com/site/psychospiritualtools/Home/meditation-practices

@Elisabeth Hi, That’s great to hear about the practices. IMO, we can always count on them. No, I’m not suggesting there’s an only way for anything, that’d take all the fun out of it - and at the same time, looking at values, etc, to help with LP is looking into the nature of ourselves. When I read your values, and zone of genius, along with the rest of what you wrote, a practice I do came to mind, and I am able to do this practice because of the breakthroughs I’ve had with practices and psychedelics. It’s simple in nature, I think of it as zooming in & zooming out. I’m usually aware of how zoomed in, or out, I am, and can do either. I learned about quantum mechanics as an amateur outsider (did not go to school for this, nor work with qm’s). It was a deep interest of mine for many years a while back. My journey of what I am, was preceded by a longer journey of what this reality stuff is. One naturally lead to the other for me. While I was in my ‘learning & qm’s’ years, I was sooo zoomed in, that I didn’t have any bird’s eye view of my life. So, of course I’m projecting my experiences on your post, but I have to tell you, I have strong senses very often when I see a someone on the forum for the first time, some kind of foreshadow emotion. I knew a specific few members would be banned soon months ago, the first time I saw their avatar pic, before any comments, and I knew a handful of members would have x,y, & z breakthroughs the first time I saw their avatar pics. I’m not saying I’m psychic at all, as I am at a loss to explain this in any way. It just doesn’t go into words well. The first time I saw your pic, I experienced a much bigger whatever-we’d-like-to-call-it. Probably the biggest one I’ve experienced. Then I went ahead and commented on your posts a while ago, and it all just came out wrong / weird. Lol. (Sorry) It’s hard to use words to communicate ‘seeing’ something that did not come from words / knowledge / anything someone has said / no prior comments. ANYWAYS...lol... I used to get so zoomed in, I would lose the big picture of where I wanted to be headed. Sometimes I would be so zoomed out, I had very little inspiration to do anything in the present moment - overwhelmed. Now, I zoom in and out at will, as is beneficial and useful for the moment. I think you’re consistently very zoomed in, in your work and studies, like using a microscope all the time (feels like overworked, tired, can trigger depression, headaches, tension), but if you used a telescope so to speak, you’d see a bird’s eye view, and you might see how all the pieces fit into the life path you want most. Psychedelics are one hell of a telescope, and you are wise to take the advice of the slower & easier path with them. It’s not about the trip, it’s about the integration. I have not done DMT, but I’ve done 1g of shrooms, and 8g’s of shrooms, and they are not the same in any way. I “zoomed” out of Nahm, or directly “into” Nahm (same thing really) to the source, or everybody’s favorite word lately, the absolute. This revealed to me that the study of qm’s Is the study of the self, love. If I could give you this perspective from insight, I would have UPS’d it months ago. Sorry this is so long, having some trouble with brevity. So when I read your post, I feel like your values and zone of genius scream - changing people’s lives for the better - “waking people up”. But in the “real world” you ‘ve obviously got a lot invested into your career path, which is science oriented. So the head is looking for how to do this with work / society, and the heart is looking for how to do this directly with love - simply just the experience of love. I should try to make a point here soon. Lol. I guess the point is, I’ve also had relativity revealed to me. Like, exactly, experientially, right now, how everything that is sensed in my awareness is relative to ‘me’, everywhere I ‘go’. Beyond that it is me, the connecting dots are visible. I guess the point is, I’m attempting to understand you more, and express I can relate. Overall, you’re one heck of a thinker (zoomed in stuff), and the practices & psychedelics (zoom out stuff), imo, would very likely be what leads you to a big experience of everything you’ve done in your past, all the learnings, and studies and work, etc - “lining up” or illuminating your way forward, showing you that all the pieces have always been fitting together perfectly, culminating right under your nose, leading to something... kinda, big. I am excited to see what it is. You too I bet. ❤️ I think you’re going to get a ‘glimpse’ of this soon, very outta the blue. I don’t know if this was a waste of time for you to read, or if it was helpful. I have a strong feeling there is something big in me, for you, but articulating it is a different matter. It’s as if relativity is an emotional sense too, and a strong one for / to you, though I can’t explain that as much as I would like to be able to. One last thing, so much misinformation gets posted on the forum about psychedelics by people who have not even had them. Imagine if you were able to stand behind your physical self, and just watch you go through your day. No burden of effort, or having to do the thinking, solving, etc. Just getting to take it all in. Then imagine you could zoom upward and behind you 20 yards, and now you can also see the relationship relativity between you and each person you interact with. Then zoom out a mile, seeing the “ants” we are, the bigger picture of society, desires, perfection, etc. Then zoom all the way out to see that all of that is like a tiny little dot that what you really are, is just dreaming and looking at. Then, eventually, you’re ‘back’ to being Elisabeth again, but now you’ve seen so much more of your ‘person’ and your ‘life’. Upon returning, you feel free, liberated, and that things are generally much easWords can’t communicate any of this. This is a weird, long, atypical post for me. Huge sense / feeling to give you something, without a logical understanding of what it is. Maybe I did. Maybe it’s still forthcoming. Maybe it’s nothing. Who knows.

@Ether That’s great!!!

@Patang Didn’t you just post this last week too?

@Charlotte I’ve been with very close, long time friends who have ptsd and to me the anger is directly linked. It just takes a thought related to the incidents of their past and the anger is triggered. That process could be called ptsd / the triggering of emotions suppressed. I have a friend who was in the military, saw horrific things, killed people, and he was convinced he was fighting the good fight for the good guys, and Christianity was heavily laced into convincing him to moralize what he was being told to do. Many years later, he had ‘glimses’ of how he was convinced, and much emotion suppression that required. It seems, though I have no direct personal experience myself with ptsd, that those emotions need to be allowed to surface. This purifying, I wouldn’t wish upon any human being. But, it’s either spend the remainder of life with suppression, or do ‘the work’ to be liberated. The more one does for themselves, the more results. As much as he possibly can, little changes each day, it would be hard to go wrong with therapy, healthy eating (especially no processed sugar, triggers anger), every morning exercise and then meditation. May take months or a year. If memory serves, you were departing that relationship...? And decided not to? Also, if memory serves, you had some reservations about posting a pic with a smile..? (Not sure) Anyways, beautiful smile, and hats off to you for not just sleeping through all of this. It gets hard before it gets easier, and I really do hope all this works out for YOU. ❤️

@Monkey-man I understand where you’re coming from a lot better now, thanks. On the actuality of love comments, it experiential, but anyone can experience. May take years or decades. Also, if I came across like I’m trying to belittle the notion of having a lp, I apologize, and came across wrong.

@Ryan_047 The default is prefect as is, the self worth issue is from having repeated thoughts about your self that don’t align with perfect as is. Meditation is great for letting thoughts go / detaching from them in regards to this extent, having attached emotionally to thoughts about self. Unconditional love is mysterious in that it is love, and also is, unconditional. We can think it is this or that, even feel that it is this or that, even experience that it is this or that - but it never changed in actuality. So, practicing letting thoughts go, and non attachment. The spoon doesn’t bend or accommodate, the ego does, until there is no spoon or ego.

@Shakazulu Short sweet & deep. Thanks for sharing!

@Monkey-man Nothing add’s up to nothing. There’s nothing here, it’s all appearance. The higher purpose ‘beyond all this’ is the root of dogmas and their implied consequences. This is revealed with transcendence of self & thinking, as it is only thinking. A wise man once said: They love to tell you Stay inside the lines But something's better On the other side I want to run through the halls of my high school I want to scream at the Top of my lungs I just found out there's no such thing as the real world Just a lie you've got to rise above Hard to read J Mayor and see him as a wise man, but, he’s you too. All that’s in question is who we listen to, how refined are our distinctions. People are where the purpose trail ends.

@Elisabeth I did read through the whole post, and this may sound like it’s coming from left field, but, what is your experience with daily meditation and psychedelics? Have you had ‘breakthroughs’ in terms of your Self, and others?

@Nexeternity ❤️

The old traumas would have been released by awareness of a bigger vantage view on the path to enlightenment, and they would not resurface. What’s needed is to decide to no longer avoid or run form it, and to simply sit with it, as many times as it takes, for as long as it takes. Eventually, we see through it.

@Flowerfaeiry Yes. Of course. Expand the mind. There is truly nothing one could learn which is not learning more deeply of one’s self. Things working out is very hard to avoid. Quite possibly, impossible.

@Patang Yes, but without the distinction, in this light - self imposed - , there is love and you are love. Then there’s very little questions. If any.

@Dodo ♥️

@spicy_pickles https://m.wikihow.com/Get-Out-of-an-Abusive-Relationship http://www.lovepanky.com/love-couch/broken-heart/how-to-get-out-of-an-abusive-relationship https://www.womenshealth.gov/relationships-and-safety/domestic-violence/leaving-abusive-relationship https://www.livestrong.com/article/179800-how-to-get-out-of-an-abusive-relationship-with-no-money/

@spicy_pickles Pickles!!!! Very shortly after you do it, it won’t seem like as big of a deal as it might now. You don’t even have to say anything or really do anything. You just walk out. Think about only the smallest steps, he at a time. Could you just say, “runnin up to the 7-11”, or something, and go to a parent or friends house? You’ll surely get better perspective after a night or even just a few hours. Can go get your stuff as needed with a parent, friend, etc, tomorrow, or next day? You’ve clearly decided. You can totally walk or drive from one place to another. You’ve done it thousands of times before. Keep it simple.

@Galyna Circadian rhythm, nature of the big show. Sleep is hard with babies / infants. I have found clean eating, exercise and mindfulness to be very helpful. Breath focus daily morning meditation works well for stressful times too. Staying centered vs getting caught up in thinking makes for better sleep too. Little ones can make us feel on edge without it. Good luck. Lack of sleep is a rough one.

@Max_V Yeah. ??

theres nothing to tell them, you were always the same one.

@Patang Enlightenment, refers to being the ‘light’, synonymous with love. Love is literally all there is. Discrepancies are our projections. A gift of being filled with love, is seeing there is no other, no physical reality. A person can not be understood by another, there is no other. A person can not know what another thinks, even if the other is telling them what they think right to their face. To be filled with unconditional love, we have to accept these things. Otherwise, we create all kinds of discrepancies. Enlightened, you would never tell another that you are no longer the one they love. It would be clear you are love. You would realize you are literally the one they love. The difference lies in the realization & meaning of ‘one’.