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@WildeChilde I can relate to working in business, but I don’t relate to participating in lying and cut throat behaviors. Can you share more? What is the lying you’re having to do about? Lying to coworkers, employer, customers? I have been in business for 30 years. I have found people with integrity, honesty, kind & genuine people, are the best leaders and are the hardest to find and most sought after (of course some analytical mind & long term thinking are needed too). I’m speculating, but, maybe it’s the specific industry you’re in? Maybe it’s the company you’re working at? I wonder if you’d be better off working for yourself. Sounds like you’re getting a lot of exposure to the environment you don’t want, which I think is very useful in knowing what you do want. One of my companies is an insurance agency. Insurance sales is right up there with lawyers & politicians, and far as people’s preconceived notions of scamming , lying, cheating, etc. This is the perfect scenario though, I find, because when someone senses I actually care about them and their well being, they tend to stick with you, and tell others. I’m not saying this to toot my own horn, but to express, there might be a goldmine within your own day to day that is a matter of perspective and authenticity.

@Timotheus suffering is illusion. absolute is reality. experiencing absolute reveals this. I could not possibly recomend it enough.

@Timotheus What are you talking about dude? I don’t get it.

@Phill SIlence says more in that situation. If you say something, it’s actually confusing to her, because to her, now it’s about you and her. If you just don’t say anything, and keep yourself feelin fine (no animosity) she’ll feel the gravity of her complaining. In the big picture, I feel for ya. When they won’t move forward, and you don’t want to go on without them that life gets pretty interesting.

@Timotheus WHere did the ‘infinite amount of suffering’ idea come from?

@Timotheus How so? Where you coming from on that? Terrifying, in the sense, you will go through all of your fears to experience it? Or do you think the absolute is terrifying?

@ExodiaGearCEO You’re staring a business because you know what you don’t want. What is it that you don’tt want? If not for this, you’d still be not starting a business. What you don’t want brings clarity to what you do want. “Money” doesn’t satisfy as an answer. I find freedom is inspiring and motivating. Even the simple freedom of not working for a moron.

@SgtPepper From your pic, you don’t mind some shrooms once and a while. Have you experienced absolute yet?

@Shanmugam It seems to me people are each coming from their relative past. The path forward is the undoing of the relative path up until they decide to pursue spirituality. The meeting them where they’re at, I suck at that, but that’s the way to help. Ester Hicks seems to have mastered this. I think I understand what you’re saying, that it’s either seeking truth, or feeding ego. Ever since experiencing absolute, I just want to help people with suffering. It’s a win win to me...love that is.

@Shanmugam wise words man! ❤️ The paradox of existence and non, resolves all being absolute.

@Max_V That’s awesome! ❤️ It means you’re doing the ‘work’, and seeing through some of your bullshit! Very happy for you Max!

@Shanmugam well said! Some ask through aggression without asking, because the anger convoluted the mind, and I hear the question, and I see you hear the question. Questions are much easier to hear when you are the answer. I know where we are all headed, and while there’s no rush, I love to play any role I can in expediting. We will never run out of love, but we can try, for eachother’s sake. In consideration for only me, yes, absolutely I agree with you, but it’s relative to what is best for the other who is seeking to know the self. It’s fun though. Ultimately, binary or not doesn’t matter. What matters is only what is relative to the person seeking to know their self. If they say the oneness experience is it, and they hold it to be binary, they fool themselves and can waste years or even the rest of their life in ignorance. If one experiences ego death, but not their absolute nature, and hears it is not binary, they are inclined to continue. If someone experiences the void, and holds to binary, the rest of their life can be spent unknowingly justifying the void is the absolute, if they do not hold to binary, or being right, maybe they keep going, and experience the absolute. No shoe fits all. It is not as simple as binary or not, it is relative, until it is absolute.

@Maxx For most, absolute is at their physical death, and that is fine.

There is an ample amount of people, on this forum, who are ‘stuck’ in their assurance that their experience was ‘it’, and are not moving on the path. “It”, is ultimately binary, but that would not be known until one experiences absolute. If you experienced absolute, you would know this.

@StephenK Experience the absolute. Then you can see through this. There is no other way. This is why the word absolute is chosen. Otherwise, we’re just dogs chasing tails.

You’d have to give a little specifics about your job if someone is to help you see the light in it.

@Shin

@Shin I’m the egg. No wait, the chicken. Wait, hold, let me think about it. ......ya, I’m the egg. No, definitly the chicken. Well, maybe I’m the egg. Wait, no, in hindsight, I think I’m the chicken. Yeah. for sure. I’m the egg. ?

This is the intention - your intention - to experience being Alien, you had to employ a mechanism which prevents you from knowing you are God. God is so intelligent, that God can even not know God is God. What the actual fuck man. ?This is how you get to experience the reversal of this. As convincing as it is, that you are Alien, a body & brain, etc - because you are God, there can not be a perfect “convincing”. The illusion is God, and therefore so many breadcrumbs and and tracks had to be covered, hidden. What an adventure the rediscovery is!!! I mean, seriously, can you even believe it!!? The truth of no history covered with the illusion of time, the truth of no birth covered with the illusion of a developing ego, the truth of no life covered in illusion of death, the truth of no death covered by the illusion of alive. The truth of light covered in the illusion of dark. The truth of the “superposition” covered with drywall!!! LOL. The genius of it is just ineffable. ? It can only be explained, with silence - with fucking silence ahhh haha haha Can you even imagine something that can make something which is nothing out of it’s very self which is it’s self and has no idea it is it’s self and appears to nothing as something while it is nothing?!?! Seriously, just seriously, what the actual fuck. That is impossible except that it IS! ?

@Shin Yes!!! Much easier to open the mind than the heart. The mind can be exhausted into collapse, but the heart is an entirely transcendent matter.

The problem with referring to enlightenment as binary is reflected in so many “I’m enlightened now” posts. One can mistake the void, the nothingness, the meaninglessness, the visceral oneness, the “seeing” of relativity, the revealing of the illusion, etc, for “it”. The danger with this binary message is they go no further, because these experiences liberate from the material paradigm, and sure seem to be the pinnacle, never having actually experienced the absolute, the only self, the being, the love that all is. Then, sure, it is binary. But that verbiage is not worth the trouble it gives one on the path. And still, there are no ends nor beginnings, so all is an end and a beginning.

So funny how all this maya is called “matter” and we congeal in it ? , all the while what ‘matters’, is why. ❤️ Science is hilarious!

@Kevin Dunlop Instead of bliss, consider love. Develop your love, do the practices, think of the best for yourself, and those you know. Thoughts of love. You don’t have to help a single person with anything. After contemplating on that for a bit, you’ll probably want to. Things like depression and anxiety can be a little contagious. Careful, and allow some recoup time for yourself.

@Shin You know, it’s always all good. This is just another time, that a little confusion, a little purification is happening. Chill. You’ll be feelin fine soon. This is just some expansion, like a sore muscle that you give some rest to, it’s getting even stronger. And at the same time, I’m callin bullshit ?. Nobody this compassionate should ever feel other than loved, and loving. You are love itself dude, remember? Yeah. Take another look at these perfect compassion bombs, so well dispensed, it’s as if an angel sprinkled a little heaven dust, like Gordon Ramsay with a damn pairing knife, like Leo with that not being it - You’re amazing man. Look at this love....❤️ https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/18306-does-anyone-understand-sudden-depression/ https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/18221-please-help/ And don’t be all, yeah I know, but you didn’t really look at em. Look at em. We exist in the exact same way you exist. This, whatever we’re doing, this is it, and when we move on, that’s awesome too, and we’ll do something next, and it will be awesome too. The joy comes and goes, so does the pain, so does the blank state. Neutral is fine. Maybe get out, go to the grocery store or somethin. I bet, whenever you see someone, you feel what you are, and I bet it’s pretty awesome. We’re all just that kid, talkin like we know stuff. Lol. Don’t get serious on me Shin!

@Patang Well done! i realized then that life doesn't happen to "me", it happens for "me". That’s a deep one man. So happy for you. Thanks for sharing!