Nahm

@Deep Of course a Buddha will always be misunderstood. To refer to as ‘other’ is already the misunderstanding. No one could prove this to you, because anyone trying to prove it to you, is you. If you don’t know what you are, and you don’t know they are you, then they certainly can’t convince you. There is literally nothing to use as proof, you’re already that - only direct experience matters. All the philosophy and critical thinking, investigation, etc, - that all serves only to expand and calm the mind as a preparation to be able to even begin to accept the truth. It cleans the past off, that’s it. Enlightenment, specifically Buddhahood, is eons away from anything to do with thinking and reason.

“Anybody seen my mind?”

@Viking Bliss is actually knowing, first hand, what you are.

@egoless ??. ??❤️

@Saumaya LOL!! ?

@Saumaya What do you mean?

@Shanmugam Yes. Lol. Different probing all together. I think your english is great, btw.

@Shanmugam What’s goin on over there? Lol. It was a joke, as if I’ve actually been probed by aliens. They’re known for probing. I haven’t. (knocks on wood)

@Shanmugam Dude, you are cracking me up!! Of course the seeking is complete. The absolute is absolute. Shows over folks, it’s me. I’m still curious what inspired this.

@Shanmugam Well, you were more gentle than the aliens. Appreciate that. Love ya man ❤️

@Shanmugam Right on. What was my seeking you’re referring to?

@Shanmugam No worries. Something I said offended you? Was it the quote? I feel like you’re askin me to dance but the music won’t start for some reason.

@Shanmugam yes. Where ya headed with this cat & mouse stuff?

@Charlotte Good for you!

I think you might have had a typo on the first question? You asked how long it’d been since I heard about it. The first time, probably 26 years ago, roughly.

@Shanmugam Not sure what you mean by heard about. There are conversations on the forum about it, that I’ve seen today.

@Shanmugam You are asking yourself about nonduality.

@Shanmugam ok. Great talkin with ya.

@Shanmugam Did you ever have the experience of being with your gurus in you? Revealing they are you, always were?

@Shanmugam Thank you for that. Man, he had a way with beauty. Here’s another timely favorite of mine... “Experience life in all possible ways -- good-bad, bitter-sweet, dark-light, summer-winter. Experience all the dualities. Don't be afraid of experience, because the more experience you have, the more mature you become.” ― Osho

I always like this Sahdguru quote... ”The whole world is lying to themselves and everyone else about God”.

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@Faceless What is meant by “you” is not at all the same for all the people (maya) you see. The range of realizations is so vast, it can’t be pigeonholed like you state. All that does is keep you pigeonholed, because all that you could reference, is in reality, also you. If all you have is a hammer, you call everything a nail. That is the signifance of self inquiry. To identify with thoughts, using them to claim one can’t identify with thoughts, is still identifying with thoughts. Awareness, being, very different. Understanding conflation, and radical open mindedness, along with giving up what you’ve come to know, can set you free. Don’t take, or not take my word for it. Experience this for yourself. Then you’ll see. The difference of experiencing some thing and evoking memories of the experience, and experiencing what you actually are, and therefore never being the same again, are worlds apart. It is hard not to be fooled though, because no communication actually can communicate the actual truth, so it leaves it wide open to all kinds of assumptions, such as the assumption that another is believing in a belief. The only way to know, is direct experience of what you are in reality, not what you deduce you are in the illusion. What you keep referring to as investigation, is actually thinking. That won’t do. You’d have to be willing to notice, your conversations end with implicating others ‘investigate’. This is the way to transcend conceptualization, and embody truth. You’d have to go beyond that “ending” a few more billion miles. You could take something as simple as having a kid. Or would you claim the experience of having a kid, was nothing more than what you already believed and already knew? What about sex? Did the experience of sex change anything, or was it exactly what you already knew and believed?

No worries at all man. You’re wise to seek. Some live a life misunderstood, knowing the self only upon physical death. Nothing wrong with either in my book. What one is up against, is all evidence to the contrary of what is actually true.