Nahm

We are all here for you, and we’re all in this together. You can PM me anytime you want. Don’t hesitate. Really. Totally understandable. We’re in the era of materialism - the false paradigm that happiness comes from others, or objects. Even if when you went out and ‘made new friends’, etc, if everyone liked you & found you interesting - you’d still have the same beliefs about yourself that you have, and you’d find affection & approval from other people would not ‘fix’ that. It would likely make you more dependent on approval. I feel you should know, or at least consider, that really almost everyone goes through this. It might not seem like that to you, because you’re pretty open and honest, and there is a stigma about these issues, so we rarely hear people opening up about it like you are. Good for you man, expression is important in healing. Yes, this is true, but put your own experience - feeling better - before giving so much consideration to what other people might be thinking. When your perspective changes, the world changes, and the experience of life changes. I’m sure you’ve experienced this in some way already, as you understand what full circle implies. Almost everyone goes through this same circle that you are now, to different degrees. It will pass and you’ll be all the stronger for it, and feeling reconnected and much more sure of yourself. I promise, even if it doesn’t seem so now, this is true. There is plenty you can do about this, and plenty of help available. It can take time to change of course, so be patient, and don’t beat up on yourself. Therapy would be most helpful, ideally someone you feel comfortable with, who helps you to express your emotions, and understand codependency, and how we internalize things from our childhood. It might seem frightful, but I assure you, talking through it with a good therapist can make all the difference. Often we make a mountain out of a molehill in our thinking, later to find it was all perspective. How’s your lifestyle, health wise? DIet, exercise? Those two can be extremely impactful. Are you meditating, doing yoga, singing, etc? Generally speaking, are you doing any practices or activities oriented towards well being, feeling good? What other things feel good for you? Simple light things you enjoy - going to the movies, or walks in the park, etc. Some time we “get to busy” and forget that the only point is feeling good, enjoying life. The simple stuff helps us remember. Do you know that breathing from your stomach instantly relaxes your body & mind, oxygenates, calms & relaxes all the systems in the body? Take some big slow deep stomach breathes. It really works. This might be too ahead of where you’re at, please let me know...but, do you know that while pain for most people is just a fact of life, suffering on the other hand, which is what you’re dealing with, does not actually come from the world, or our circumstances? Suffering comes from our mental story about our circumstances. Again, it takes time, and patience, but it’s a very helpful distinction to make. This implies that the truth is it doesn’t actually matter what people think about you. The root of the suffering is what you’re thinking people think about you, and how you think about yourself. But it’s just a story. These thoughts are our “stories” we tell ourself. You are, in fact, in control of your own happiness - easy for me to say today, as I recall being where you’re at, and it is hard, but trust me man, you are worthy of love, there is infinite love within you - express that love for yourself, and towards everyone & everything you can - the world will change right before your eyes, you’ll find you were full of love the whole time. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ufNOWvcfrE4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kIozCzLkk1U https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FeLpvgAVtU8 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a3CunRgjXBk @Martin123

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@inFlow Godspeed.

@Cammy Maybe the lack of confidence derives from beliefs about yourself, that you know something at all about yourself, and in truth, you don’t know anything about yourself, so in dropping the beliefs, you are no longer shy, nor lacking in confidence. So maybe a good question is, when in life did you begin thinking you are shy?

@Arkandeus But how could you even make such a distinction then, as to what is a “narcissist”?

@inFlow It is pretty funny isn’t it? Happy for “you”! and the Mrs. too. A thought, consider that maybe the illusion runs deeper than identity. I mean, if there’s truly only one...it’s you. Might help with the “something rather than nothing”, not that you need any help. ❤️

@Arkandeus Are you a narcissist?

Also, only something illusory could live & die.

Awesome! Great realization. Thought is illusionary, belief is identification with thought. So identity is illusionary. What is illusory could not live & die, so no ‘thing’ is a “life”, so life can’t be a test. I hope your days continue getting more and more belief, and care - free! Keep in mind, love, does not require a thought! Neither does awareness! Also, if you knew everything, there’d be no opportunity for belief. I’d look into that. Sounds suspicious.

For sure, that’s why I asked. It seems you’re maintaining a separation that it would be beneficial to be aware of, in terms of the very realization you are wanting. As in there is “work” time or “work” you, and there is “spirituality or practices” time, or “spirituality or practices you”. By not answering that one question (% of day stomach breathing), this became clear, and in terms of identity, it’s a path blockage. Is there concern, what would happen to the path if you pursued a,b,c, through work - or the opposite - what would happen to work / finances if I did a,b,c, on the path? I might be way off.

Assuming you are somewhere around 5 - 6 ft tall, imagine everyone else is 15 - 18 feet tall, and you don’t understand their language - no mental comparison is needed. ‘Perspective’ is developing as awareness is “attaching”, infinite intelligence is limiting (as a verb) in experience (in appearance). The veil is God forgetting. The veil is not psychological conditioning, or identification with physicality, though we’re all free to use words interchangeably of course.

@Bauer1977 What does “die” mean? Also, do you realize such things, or not? What is the need to add this “ego which realizes things” into the mix? You’re the one realizing this, no? Why add “souls” too? You are the understanding, are you not?

@Bauer1977 (op) Great stuff. But if it’s really an illusion, it’s really an illusion. Then there’s nothing. But that would mean you are nothing. That would mean I am nothing! Which would mean definitions of nothing, are actually nothing. What would that mean? Nothing. Meaning would be illusory too. Why and how could nothing need something to realize - NOTHING! ? In realizing nothing, something is illusory. “Why & how” are some thing. Slippery slope. Very sneaky. Wait though, this would mean that even nothing is illusory - that death itself, was never something, and was never nothing. How could that be though, given you’re alive, right now? ???

?? Give it a go again, while consciously breathing from your stomach - all day. Perhaps a line known all too well between hilarity and seriousness will be experienced in a new way, as in, no such line. Maybe without that line, things start to appear to be a little different than usual. Those who enforce that line are seen more clearly for who they aren’t, made from what they’ve decided to take seriously. But alas, we’re all just tripping over our toys.

Same thing’s going on. Kid was used to perspectiveless perfection (infinite...infant). Then the grown up is sizably intimidating. But then they trip on a toy like an idiot. The veil is funny at first, as long s someone else has it on. Later, as “grown ups”, it’s “suffering”.

@Tony 845 Sounds great man. I don’t want to be pushy. Good luck! ??

@Serotoninluv They say he is a Master baiter.

Did you hear that from “The Naked Guru” guy from India? On Youtube? He’s got it down to a science.

@Tony 845 It’s not a pleasant question for an individual to be asked is it?

@Tony 845 What percentage of the day would say you are breathing from your stomach?

@Charlotte ❤️

@Pat Pagano A surprise change in perspective. Try it today. No commitment to any perspective. Flow from any one, to any one. People engrained in one perspective will be thinking you’re very funny. Just make sure you are taking your humor seriously, and don’t mess up. It’s not a game.

Panic attacks will not be resolved with thinking, evidenced by the lack of any person to do so scientifically speaking, and also evidenced by the sheer debilitating power of a panic attack. It’s simple, but a big recontextualization: What does the panic attack say? It says, “I don’t care what important things you have to do, I don’t care about your obligations to others, I don’t care about your bills, or your job - I don’t care about any of that. You have not been putting your experience first, you have not been putting you first. You’ve been trying to “solve problems” for a long time, you will acknowledge the only way to happiness, is putting how you feel first, then proceeding. You will learn this now. I love you so deeply, I can not watch this go on for another minute.” Sit. Bawl. Release. Care about how you feel. It is unwise, proceeding without love / being. What would even be the point? That is the point. You. Happy. That’s it. That’s all. How much love is there for you, that unseen powers can drop you to your knees until you acknowledge this? Infinite.

@Tony 845 Are you conscious? And are you conscious, that you are conscious? (Consciousness knows consciousness) (aka) Are you aware? And are you aware, that you are aware? (Awareness knows awareness) How many “Self Aware’s”, are there? One In direct experience, has there ever been two? Of course not. This is known so simply, obviously, and deeply - that you are missing that you are it (consciousness, awareness) And so you keep thinking. But you should know a couple things: 1. There is no absolute word. The definition of every word is more words. 2. There is no absolute thought. The meaning of every thought is more thoughts. It is a ‘three cups and a peanut” situation, until you realize there’s no peanut. Just the three cups game. An illusion, entirely. A game.

@Anirban657 Nah, from dancin.