Nahm

One school of thought is that unexpressed emotion just ‘sits’ in the body, so expressing yourself can = getting it out, and ‘it’ being gone. I know what you mean about some trepidation of ‘going there’, but man when you do, and you just let it all out once and for all, however it comes out ?????- then it does seem like ‘why the heck didn’t I do this expression thing years ago’? ?

@mandyjw @Serotoninluv Yes! And....both! ?? 5 mile run first thing in the morning followed by meditation...?

Yes. If you are everything, there’s no other thing to fear. The ego is the idea you are a separate thing, which creates fear.

@TheAvatarState First see what you are, where you came from, where you’ll go ultimately. Then “reality”.

@Etherial Cat In communication, we are only capable of being 100% full of shit. There is no exception. He can’t drop your shell, you can’t drop his. But when you drop yours, and he drops his, that is “without armor”, or “actual nakedness” (vulnerability), thus allowing actual sex (intimacy). Pretty sure that’s the satisfaction you desire. Your shell is ‘what he needs to do’, his shell is ‘what she needs to do’ ( “to accommodate me” ). The shells are based on, and were put on , in the past, sometimes unknowingly and therefore, not by choice. But make no mistake, the shells are kept on by choice. They are dropped by choice too. You and he are in the car. That is what is. Where you are going is what sets the mood.

@Etherial Cat What if the sex was the product of the communication? What if the point was the communication, and you guys were self discovering together? Venturing into awareness and consciousness individually of course, together? I’m just suggesting that leads to the greatest sex ever. This is why it’s so important to shine the awareness on what he would say about you. Not important to say here or to me, just very important for you.

When you say “this point”, is that point the sex, or the “more aware and conscious”? What would he say about you, about this? “Implementing a change which is rooted in how someone built himself over decades is not going away in a heartbeat.” Well...that sort of implies that the relationship won’t be “better” until decades are undone. But really, happiness is what is wanted, and the thinking is that it will be here after the change is complete. But I find that’s not really the case. An analogy that comes to mind.... Imagine you’re you and him are in the car on your way to pick up groceries. Then imagine you guys are on your way to Disneyworld. Same people in the same car, same car ride, yet, where you’re headed makes all the difference in terms of how you feel. I find a relationship to be like this, as far as happiness. So, if you guys can talk about awareness / consciousness, without anger or even if you can continue to communicate in spite of / after the anger subsides, then maybe there is a place reached where big changes haven’t transpired yet, but you’re both happy because of where you’re going together now, which in this analogy I’m realizing is the Disneyworld of sex.

@Aakash Those changes are awesome. Fear knocks, but only continues knocking if you don’t answer the door. You are hearing the knocking, this is wisdom in and of itself. Now let’s see who’s there!

@cetus56 @Aakash Absolutely. It’s a both & neither scenario in a sense. There is a path, and you must take it, and to want “it” is to reinforce there is a you which is separate from this “it” which is wanted. Aakash, I have a specific process / convo I’ve had with quite a few people at this point which has been very helpful. It can be done through pm - if you don’t have distractions around you. Pm me if interested.

@Aakash Yes, great! The resistant thinking is not wrong - that is resistant thinking! You are exactly, perfectly, precisely “where” you should be! This seeking and knowing is a wonderful experience, the best! Can you acknowledge it is not easy, it wil take time, it will likely entail practices which are new to you and initially difficult - BUT - what else ya got to do? ........ do that too! All is well!

@cetus56 ha! Yes!

I feel ya man. Awareness of / willingness of attention on - resistant thinking. For a few minutes forget about meditation & practices, just surrender / forget all of it - close your eyes, breathe big and deep from your stomach, and recognize the thoughts which do not feel good and are not beneficial. Resistant thought & body tension are a unison, so send the let go signal from crown to toes over and over. Send the signal to each muscle until you feel the muscle release. After some time, you should have an awareness that the thoughts which are troubling you have left with the tension. Likewise, in your day, you will become more aware that you observe someone or some situation (could even just be a resistant thought) and you’ll notice a little tension comes back in the body. This ‘cycel’ of resistant thought, awareness of it , and releasing body tension, has to repeat. As it does, awareness “increases”.

It can’t see the ox. Practices? Make nonresistant thinking your best friend.

@Truth Addict Yes and no. The thoughts / words are just invitations to do the work, of course. Also, you can realize through a conversation what you are not and what you are logically, which can be quite ‘eye opening’ and much more inviting / motivating, but the actuality comes from a much deeper awakening / the work.

@MsNobody Yep. Well done!

@MsNobody I don’t anything about astrology but I’m interested. How about trying to guess my sign?

Thought can not create something which is magic, magic can make something which thinks. Logic refuses this, as it should - it’s not logical. You are logical, and so it’s not logical that there is no “you”. Wherever you are, whatever is around you - take a look. See how it all follows the laws of physics. Go outside and look at the stars. Every star and every planet is changing, following the laws. But you - awareness - what laws is it following right now? Are you aware of logic? Is it logical that what is aware of logic could also cognitively fit within the same logic which it is aware of? It’s all changing, right before your eyes. The eyes themselves are changing. Awareness of all this - has it ever changed? Ever, even the slightest? Where would ‘your’ awareness end, and ‘someone else’s’ begin?

@TheAvatarState @Nahm

@TheAvatarState You can know you are everyone and no one, and you can not know if you are everyone and no one.

@MM1988 What’s so hard about it? No one can meditate for thousands of hours, only now. What you’re after is not the answer to a question. It’s the experience of no experience, the knowing of not knowing, of what is prior to that which is reality, thinking, questions, answers. It would help to make a distinction as to which practice you’re doing; inquiry / questioning self & reality, or, practicing the opposite - meditation / surrendering the thoughts, emotions, your life, etc. Doesn’t sound like you’re playing. Sounds like you’re very serious. Playing, retreating, surrendering, ‘vegging out’, are as necessary as trying hard, progression & kicking ass. One without the other is boring or miserable, and impacts the mind or the body adversely. Name a game you could ‘win’, without playing. Such is life.

It’s not meant personally, just analytically. Pursue enlightenment or don’t, whatever you want. My advice would be to stop and find something you enjoy instead. Everybody knows the why when they die anyways.

@Mikael89 Just enjoy the games. It’s not really for you, no offense man.

@Paul92 I’d research fragmentation first. Then read this thread again with that awareness.

@andyjohnsonman If you look at “the kitchen sink” without any thought - what is it?

@Robi Steel Your inquiry is in the direction of the big why. A pointer... you can think about pretty much any relative thing, but you can not think what you are. Coincidence?