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@Aquarius Is asking why looking for meaning? Stop and ask why you’re looking for meaning first. You can’t realize for other people. WHat is the meaning you give to “relationships”, and “friendships”? Why are you making friends?

@Silvester Are you conscious, or are you consciousness? If you’re conscious, who / what is conscious? The very word is telling you the inherent nature is a con.

@Aquarius Just simply trace the meaning. Go ahead and pick any thing.

So you can keep believing in scientists.

@Viking You’re talking about your thoughts & beliefs when you’re deciphering ‘real’ here. Otherwise, your beauty would be readily apparent. Watch The Hurricane, with Denzel. You’ll like it.

@Mikael89 So when you stop and consider what you want, you see you have no beliefs holding you back?

@Aquarius Find the source of meaning. ?

@SoonHei ☺️

@SoonHei It?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SBeW1NkoykE ♥️

@Andreas The meditation serves to allow thoughts to subside, via relaxing the body, and attention on breathing from the stomach (attention is removed from thoughts). Meditation positions you to have clarity, to inquire. Then with a clear mind, you can inquire into the nature of the neurosis. Also though, meditation could in and of itself serve to surrender the self image, thus ending neurosis. But there is much to be said for understanding the nature of overthinking. This solidifies that if and when it begins to resurface, it is easily identified, understood and let go. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurosis “In Horney's view, mild anxiety disorders and full-blown personality disorders all fall under her basic scheme of neurosis as variations in the degree of severity and in the individual dynamics.The opposite of neurosis is a condition Horney calls self-realization, a state of being in which the person responds to the world with the full depth of his or her spontaneous feelings, rather than with anxiety-driven compulsion. Thus the person grows to actualize his or her inborn potentialities. Horney compares this process to an acorn that grows and becomes a tree: the acorn has had the potential for a tree inside it all along.” I’m happy to try and help, but it’s all relative to what you want. This.... Is that all you want? Less of what sucks ass? You just want less of what you don’t want? Lame. What do you really want?

@Andreas If I had something, first thing I’d consider is what is it’s opposite. If you have neurosis, and it doesn’t feel good - great, you know what you don’t want. It served you. No need to focus on it Now that you know what you don’t want, you know what you do want, and it’s the opposite of neurosis. If you’re interested in changing from experiencing what you don’t want, to what you do want, it might behoove you to google what you want.

@Andreas What’s the opposite of neurosis?

The thought there is an obstacle.

What is the screen’s perspective on: random, and not governed by anything?

Care to elaborate on what is not anything, and what random actually is?

@Aaron p There’s no suffering in thoughts. The suffering is from not being present, now. Happiness is not experienced via a thought about the past or future. Happiness is now. The thoughts you’re avoiding are of the past. The “suffering” is just sensations, you’re afraid of feeling. The sensations come and go, you are the awareness, which does not come and go. Nothing that comes and goes can really hurt you. If you keep this idea of fearing the thoughts of the past, you keep yourself in the state of fear. Meditation should not be suffering. No longer try to meditate when it feels to you like suffering. Why does it seem like the suffering is of the thoughts?... Essentially, because you do not understand the emotions are just arising sensations. The unrest of emotion fuels the unrest in thinking. The unrest of overthinking is distraction & confusion regarding the emotions (sensations). So by not taking the time to write out what you’re feeling, you’re keeping yourself on the glass hamster wheel of confusion. You keep yourself in the dark. Write down how you’re feeling, freely, openly, honestly. Let it out on paper. Your mind becomes more at ease the more emotions are seen on paper, because they will be more and more understood. What is understood, is never a “problem”, and can not be “feared”. Pen & paper, express. Empty yourself to the paper. Then go back to meditation. You’ll love it.

@saffron “Thing”?

It’s an awesome revelation and at the same time another trick of the mind. Keep inquiring. Who is the devil?

@theking00 Yes. Diet is a huge factor for some people.

@theking00 Have you read The Celestine Prophecy? (Odd name I know) How long has it been since you’ve been in nature? Get some time in natural and read that. Give this a look too, try it...http://thework.com/en/do-work. Have you read The Six Pillars? How’s the sleep schedule , fitness, diet? And what is the content of the troublesome thoughts?

@zambize ?

What have you done so far? Practices, therapy, fitness, diet, socializing, journaling, etc. Of those and whatever else, what have you done so far? Also, what would you like to give up? Habits, addictions, thinking patterns, relationships, memories, etc? Have you done this yet? http://thework.com/en/do-work