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@sir meowski The only one who gets it as well. ? Much love.

Awesome! Great to hear. That is life right there.

@Alfonsoo Yes… also it’s an emotion, not a separate thing, no need for acceptance even.

@nuwu Let go of the belief there are bad thoughts.

Inspect direct experience instead of assuming. ??

Inspect what you’re experiencing. Let thinking about others go. It doesn’t need to be. What emotion are you experiencing when you think of the eating and nose issue? No. When you think about it, it doesn’t feel good to you. Choose a different way of thinking about it. No. In the simplest sense, I mean avoiding feeling, and overthinking.

@4201 Not offended at all and thank you, and likewise my apologies if I’ve offended you. I wasn’t saying you’re creating a conflict with me. Just that imo you are creating conflict where there is none.

@Alfonsoo You can’t ‘face boredom’, it’s an emotion, not an adversary. That is the discord you’re creating. You can refute & ignore the guidance of emotion, you can even pretend it’s something else, what you can never do is not feel the discord of doing so. I’m no adversary my man, I feel it too.

Just a consideration, there are not psychedelic oriented people, there are truth oriented people. (And not even) No thinking or research will amount to anything. Only the direct experience is actual.

By noticing how judgement feels (‘bad habits’ is your judging) and experiencing the feeling of boredom. You’re still focused on the expression of pessimism. (Referring to yourself as pessimistic, is focusing on, pessimism.) That isn’t ‘wrong’ or ‘bad’, it’s simply preference, and up to you. (Not meant sarcastically. Obviously no one likes how judging feels). You’re ‘keeping a yourself there’ additionally by believing there is a you (separate self of thoughts) in a state (an abstraction with no actuality, like judgment), while pessimism is not indicative of you at all. State = self referential thought loop in this case. But pessimism is just an emotion everyone could experience, and would if focused on the same thoughts. Everyone would feel the exact same discord as you are with judgement. Move on to the next emotion by expressing, which doesn’t require a how, because there is no wrong. All you want is to feel better. What you’re focusing on is aversion of feeling. Trying to convince yourself the discord is caused by anything other than, what you’re focusing on. Open up your mind to the possibility there is no such actuality of bad or wrong, and it’s been ‘your’ judgement / judging, and feeling the discord of it, the whole time. Also, while you believe you have problems, you remain stuck in solution seeking. You are free to do what you want to about anything you desire to. ‘Problem’ is the denial of this truth.

You’re feeling your home there, the only one you’re ever in. Best to listen imo. Love might be saying, make yourself a home. But you might be going to distractions, which have gained momentum, or so it sounds. That house is this love. Another approach might be, create the life you actually want to experience. Then, I suspect you would find it enjoyable to peruse the old hood, appreciating where you came from, desiring only for the home’s new inhabitants to experience their dreams as well.

Self inquire as to who is controlling levels of energy and experiencing a self’s & collective’s awareness & energy, and the ‘osmosis effect’ between the (separate) “two”.

You’re feeling the discord of your interpretation, and the belief that the discord is caused by or related to someone else. Your thoughts / interpretation, and the believing of it. Inspect the beliefs in levels & states, and specifically that you could be in them, refrain from projecting the cause of the discord felt onto others or situations & environments, and understand the emotions you are experiencing.

The learning doesn’t feel off, the self referential thoughts feel off. It’s the result of discordant self referential thinking. It creates an impression there are two of you, and ‘one of you feels guilty for the way it talks to the other’. It is not possible for you to guilt yourself because there are not two of you. Learn the emotional scale. Guilt is an emotion, created by the thoughts you focus on. Express the jealousy for the win, and continue expressing up the scale.

It’s not a matter of agreeing or not. The op can inspect direct experience. The entirety of what they said sounds like parroting, trying to get all the ‘right’ beliefs. All of what I mentioned in my previous comment must be ignored to hold those beliefs… even just the title.

The relief is found in inspecting your direct experience, not avoiding. The discord you feel (thread wise) is your own thoughts, like calling yourself a retard, and believing what people tell you is true. To be without that discord, love yourself, care about how you feel, and don’t listen to people expressing discord. Notice, you are saying there are ‘next dreams’, without any direct experience referenced, only hearsay, conjecture. Also notice, you are saying perception is plural, without any direct experience of this. I’d start with inspecting these.

This is all yours, I don’t share any of that thinking or experience. I think you’re creating conflict & drama over nothing, in not noticing that is how you’re thinkin. I have no position, I freely state my views, people following Leo’s views are not my responsibility, and you are free to assume & make whatever assumptions and create whatever accusations or defamations you like.

Cessation means no thoughts (beliefs are thoughts). The separate self, which is said to attain cessation, literally is, the very activity of thought spoken of. Knock yourself out. I am being forthright when I tell you, I do not see a conflict in that. I honestly and very simply do not get how you do. I would think it would be pretty misleading, yes, but I would think people would tell you that in abundance, and you would either listen or not. You might experience some conflict, but again I am at a loss as to how I or anyone else would. The message is unthinkable, unbiasable, needs no messenger, and there is nothing to be communicated. Leo’s content, forum & business is, his business, and not mine. Challenging someone’s beliefs is combative and fruitless when they are not interested, inspecting or asking. The most fundamental aspect of the forum, is q&a. I don’t hold any bias, at least that I am aware of, over anyone here. Ime we’re all parallel. If there are specifics you want to ask about, I’ll gladly share my view. It is silly to ask me about Leo’s content or beliefs / dualities, on Leo’s forum, of which he is readily available & accessible for you to ask. The things I presume you’re talking about when you say dualities, is stuff like different states, people being higher or lower than other people, teachings or teachers being higher or lower, etc, etc. If what you are saying is that I do not generally share my view which is to the contrary of these dualities, I am at a loss as to what to say. Read a couple pages of my comments, I guess…? Also, if you look back on this thread to my first comment, you’ll see you replied to it quite selectively really. The first thing I said was how could content be advanced, when advanced is content. You proceeded to claim I don’t make comments, like the comment, you replied to. Leo gave no answer to the op question, and yet your interest in me seems to be paramount. Why is that? @BenG “Arm chair philosophy’ was pretty generous there. Not your best work sir, bit of a farfalle.

Yes & yes. Without objectifying women, those (sex, love, finding a woman and a sense of connection) are all recognized as experience(s). (Not things/objects you could get). Self-actualization is of course not contingent upon what you get, nor is it exclusive such that anyone who hasn’t experienced or is incapable of experiencing sex, or is unloved in any way, is somehow ruled out, disbarred or prevented from self-actualization: “desire to become the most that one can be”. Mental illness in this context turns out to be emotional suppression, and is unfortunately common to sexual, substance or spiritual bypassing of the foundations of the pyramid. Probably better to address prior to breeding, yes. Notice, you say the mind is obsessed with these experiences, and you also say you are not experiencing, these experiences. I propose what you are experiencing, are thoughts. If so, the mind is obsessed, with thoughts. Often referred to as thought attachment, and often remedied with daily meditation, expression, and emotional understanding. With that foundation in place, thoughts as presently experienced don’t even arise, and the experiences on the pyramid become doable and enjoyable, & much more. For one willing to notice one is focused upon unwanted, absence, avoidance or aversion… (“Can you move up Maslow's Hierachy if you don't have sex?”)… improv writing stands to be a simple & quick mindset and life changing experience. No. There’s a bunch of em down there too. Because different people create difference variations.

What do you mean by next dreams? Why do you want to escape? What are you escaping from?

@nuwu Put spirituality & fears aside for a moment. What do you actually want?

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What you’re really saying there is “Nahm produces content which conflicts claims”. Nahm’s content is the unexpected result or product of cessation and is not in conflict with anything. Cessation means, cessation of the activity of thoughts in regard to the separate self, ego, or finite mind. This is exactly the same as saying there isn’t, and wasn’t, a Nahm. You could also simply say not two, or nonduality. You’re pulling a switcharo there with “it”. “It” there isn’t this thread, which is indeed funny. “It” there as you’re using “it” is “Leo’s content and people believing everything he says”. I’m not saying that’s silly or funny. I’m saying feel free to ask me until you’re absolutely satisfied about any claims I’ve made in my content. I am saying you asking me about other people’s content is silly, again, given that if you want my two cents there are my videos. Notice you just said it wasn’t a question about Nahm’s views or Leo’s views…. and then you say Nahm act’s in a way to seemingly purposefully not challenge….(wait for it)…. Leo’s views. What is the desired outcome of this ‘challenging of views’? Do you think Nahm is going to say something new, which wasn’t already said in Nahm’s twenty thousand posts & videos… and then you’ll have some big epiphany? If you are interested in ‘challenging someone’s views’, you are free to. If you want to make content stating your views, you are free to. If you want to produce conflict, you are free to. Even if you want to say that someone else is creating the conflict, you’re free to. Essential Meaning of bias: A tendency to believe that some people, ideas, etc., are better than others that usually results in treating some people unfairly. You are apparently as you say imaging it is there. You are not being forced to, even if you are being told to, or told it is right, or that you should, or should believe it. Even if every one does, still, you are never forced to do so. I’ve been working a lot on some other projects recently, but I will make a video literally showing everyone the Flying Spaghetti Monster very soon. Most of your minds will refute and you likely won’t even be able to see it. The FSM is a highly complex, incredibly advanced teaching. It could take you thirty one years to even begin to grasp. (Are you laughing?) If not, you probably just need to get laid. (now…? Laughing…?)

?? Never seen either of em.

I’d go with “the thought wrist is the tattoo” on your wrist. Or simply “wrist”, but that’s more risky.