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@moon777light At a point I had to switch to first thing in the morning. It reduced overthinking and increased mindfulness. Started really slowing down and enjoying the days.

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@Ampresus Thanks, no need to apologize. It’s just how the adventure begins. Take a week off. Give yourself a break. Ultimately what’s needed is to be aware of what is triggering you so you can understand what ‘being triggered’ really is, then and respond / create instead of reaction from impulse. Meditate & self inquire. If you get overwhelmed, write and or draw about how you’re feeling on a piece of paper. Write the story of it. See when it started, who’s involved, what were their roles. Were veiled in ignorance? What will they learn which will set them free? What can you forgive them for, what can they forgive you for? Is it true you can still see love for them? Is it true you can see they were driven by love?Then burn it. “Journaling” (my bad, sorry) is something different. This is so you know what to do when meditation and or self inquiry are overwhelming. Observe thoughts, sensations, and perspectives - all the time. Observe, learn, understand, enjoy it.

@fridjonk For sure. False identity is like a time machine.

@Truth Addict It seems to me you went through some stuff, and are taking a well deserved, much needed rest. If & when you’re ready, keep going in everything. Don’t sweat not having the insights and ‘ah ha’ moments for now, those are on the path. When you get back on, trade all your intellectualism’s for actuality, and materialism for self realization. Or don’t. It really is fine either way. Truth does set you free though. And the gym is great for energy.

@How to be wise And realized that, had you not been so “right”, you could’ve had that realization much sooner on in the path? (This is intentially aimed at triggering the ego)

@Truth Addict It’s not easy to get to the honesty of ‘I don’t know’. That’s a good (but hard I know) place to be. With respect to the ‘numb’ ... Are sensations arising which are being avoided? Are there any particular thought patterns which are giving you trouble / or appear to trigger sensations? Who can you forgive, for you? (To let them go) What habits would you stop / start? Have you experienced the space between thoughts in meditation? How has self inquiry gone? Have you used pen & paper to express thought patterns & sensations that arise in self inquiry? What is one thing you can let go of from the past? What is one thing you want in life, in the future? Why do you want it? In what ways can you love yourself more?

@kieranperez Happy to hear! ??

Doing this in the mirror for a day ?

@Monkey-man You have over 600 posts. How are you seeing this as if for the first time? Selfless love is unconditional, selfless. The more separate self centered one is, the more delusional, the more suffering. Love is only experienced at the thinking level, as a thought. The “separate self” was created in avoidance of bodily sensations, emotions. So now there’s fear, of sensations. But just below the sensations is peace and Love. Slow down, notice the sensations telling you that you’re going off track with your perspective. Take your focus back. Inspect within. It’s very worthwhile. Drop the armor, get down to only your most essential intimate nature, and then let us know.

@Elisabeth Aw. You’re breakin my heart. It sure sounds like you got a whole bunch going on at once. I don’t thin you should be in “solve it” mode. I think you should be in breathing deeply & letting it go mode. Do that for a while, maybe for the night. Everything is fine Elisabeth. The problems you describe, while they might legit suck ass - they are first world problems. You are ok, and your future is going to be great. I’ve seen you, you’re smart, emotionally tuned in, and younger & smarter than me. You’re doing well. I think stuff piled up, and now it’s kinda blowing up. It will pass. I think, tomorrow, you should do some work. What strikes me as the issue to take a look at is two fold: You are young, and you still see yourself through the opinions and values, of other people. If you are 20-25, and finding it’s blows, that is a huge part of why it blows. It’s like you’ve had enough of it, but you don’t yet have clarity on it. The good news, seriously - is that you are causing your suffering. That might sound like I don’t care, but I can assure you I am saying that because I very much do care. Someone has to tell you this, and I’m out of throwing range. Seeing yourself through the opinions, judgements, values, morals, etc - of other people....is never ever going to feel good. You think God made you so you could try to live up to something, for someone else? Ah fuck now Elisabeth. God make perfection. Period. You are good to go, as you are. You are 100% entitled to happiness. You are taking the happiness away from yourself. You got to let this weight you’re putting on yourself, on behalf of other people, go. You can’t do that. Tomorrow... Write down how you see these subjects / issues. Then write down how your parents see it. There is truth in your perspective, and there is truth in there perspective. When you chill, relax, and take some time to see a little of both perspectives, then you have clarity on where each is coming from. It’s just love. I don’t care what it looks like. You’re coming from love, and they’re coming from love. You don’t need to be accepted by anyone. That is a clever tricky way to not accept yourself. Try to think about it simply. If you have five dollars, do you need five dollars? If you have a motorcycle, do you need a motorcycle? If you accept yourself, as you are, all the perfect imperfection - then would you feel this need for anyone else to accept you? No. You know you woudn’t. So, you don’t. What is it exactly, that you are afraid of? Then, pretend that actually happens. What would be different?

Don’t adopt a belief system. That’s an easy “no” (imo). Learning about a variety of religions, maybe, but I don’t suggest it. “Stop thinking about it” isn’t really something you can “do”. I mean, it’s possible, maybe, but it doesn’t seem like anyone can “stop thinking” about anything. It’s like saying I’ll stop thinking about topless dancers and tall frosty beers. (See?) lol You’re thinking about it now. (You probably already were though) I hear you on the beliefs. Believing in yourself, getting through difficult times, rising about adversity - I’m all for that. Beliefs about reality though...they’ll just need to be let go of ultimately, so adding them only adds to the ‘worklist’. You know that already though. What is it that you really, really want? In the simplest of words....?

@Truth Addict So then the question is, what to do? Right? What have you tried so far?

I think that’s where you’re going wrong. You can’t focus on awareness, because you are awareness. Have you done meditation where you just breathe from your stomach, and when you notice your attention got “sucked into” thinking again....just return the attention to breathing from your stomach?

@Key Elements Either doing life purpose, or talking about it. I apologize if I implied ‘you have black & white thinking’. That is not my sentiment. The comment was not about you, it was about the topic on this page of the thread.

@Key Elements Seems like an either or to you. What is the work you are doing?

@How to be wise Ever had the experience where you totally knew something, knew about it, knew what it was & how it worked...and then later in life, a complete flip, a total revelation?

@Manjushri If there was a goose which laid golden eggs, which would you rather have - the goose, or the eggs?

IMO, that is the simple problem. You are trying to focus when (in terms of thoughts) you need to be letting go. Sounds to me like “I keep getting pulled into thought stories because I don’t know what else I’m supposed to be focusing on”. Yes?

@Truth Addict Feels like you want something, and are looking on the level of thinking, for what can not come to you on the level of thinking. Which is in itself a dilemma, because, how’s it going to come then? How’s an insight supposed to come, if you don’t think about it? How will you know about what is afterlife, if you don’t think about it? If you just ‘dropped it’, then you wouldn’t get anywhere with it. Any of that resonate?

@How to be wise Sure...but...how do you know that ‘thoughts come to you’ is not your experience, because you believe that?

@PT89 Yesterday, in meditation, my grandmother appeared in front of me with the biggest loving smile and asked if I wanted to see God‘s patience. I of course said yes. She put a rock between us. We both laughed our heads off in the infinite humor of non-duality, the infinite patience of God, being a ‘rock’. Suffering that led to meditation, which led to discovering the space between the thoughts, which led to discovering the guidance that is emotion, which led to discovering awareness, which led to the real-I-zation of intuition, synergy, synchronicity, etc, which led to without-thinking...Love - was a great teacher.

What is the sensation telling you about the thoughts chosen? Are ‘you’ listening? Keep in mind, the infinite intelligence at play (body). It’s definitly safe to surrender to it. See your hands. See the precision, what thought does that? None. You need not even look down for God to put the earth under every single footstep. Of what use could so much thinking be? Life is a delicious trust-fall. Fall in love with it. Trust.

@Hansu Did what you described just immediately play out?