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The answer to your question about a concept, is another concept. There is no such thing as a human mind. That is another concept. @Anton_Pierre ‘s advice is as good as it gets. It is magic, and yes it is central to you. You are the magic. The only thing you can not do, is not be you. You can imagine like a mofo though. And now you have one more concept. @How to be wise Has (it seems) freshly ‘cracked the riddle’. In terms of advice on what to do (not what to conceptualize) he’s likely your best bet today.

There is no human consciousness in no mind. There is no human consciousness at all.

@zeroISinfinity No worries. Just a kid blowing bubbles.

Happy to hear Shin! Love you.

@zeroISinfinity

@andyjohnsonman Added some edits btw. You are right, there is no substitute for direct experience of experience less ness.

@zeroISinfinity The illusion is that it’s not you. There is no illusion, it’s you.

@andyjohnsonman Consciousness isn’t prior to anything because all there is, is consciousness. There is no material world. There is a thought, “material world”. That thought, is itself, consciousness. Consciousness can not expand, as it is not limited, and there is no second ‘space’ which it could expand into. You do not have an individual consciousness. The brain does not produce thoughts. The body does not produce awareness. Consciousness forgets, fools, dream, imagines itself, to be other than as it is...aka “experience”. Trust, is a thought, about there being a second thing or entity. There isn’t. Trust, is a thought. Linguistically, experientially, trust is logical and helpful, but ultimately speaking, it is not logical, nor helpful. If there is anything you are inclined to trust for, you have already reduced yourself with an idea that you are not already enough, regardless of apparent circumstances or apparent shortcomings. There are not, most literally speaking, “higher consciousness states”. This is only in communication, in language. Consciousness does not change, it appears to. The unseen, unchanging, awareness of all that changes is consciousness, and the actuality of all that appears to change, is that it too is the very same consciousness. There is not a separate, individual, “you” which experiences altered states. “Altered”, “higher”, these are linguistic, relative terms and ideas. Were it not for the the true self, you, unchanging - apparent change could not be experience. But, there is experience. A “clearer understanding of reality”, is literally, actually, recognizing yourself. The apparent means, avenues, forms, versions of this (whatever word you prefer)... is recognition, knowing of, yourself. The experience, while “forgetting” yourself, is interpreted as, understanding. Direct experience reveals no experience. You, but no experience. Then indirect experience, right? It’s the exact same, but in not recognizing, in forgetting, the appearance of you, is mentally mistaken as not you, and so seems, indirect. To pick a focal point which I think could be the fulcrum of the perspective of your questions, the deconstruction of it being in the contemplation of it... Consciousness does not create a second being. It becomes a ball of light. There is nothing in this ball, it is consciousness. You could say, “at the center of this ball” is “pure consciousness”, Nothingness / Awareness (actually the exact very same consciousness). From “inside the ball”, nothingness does not recognize itself, as being the light, which is appearing as -other-than-nothingness. The experience, is, consciousness fools itself into forgetting itself, not realizing it is still nothingness, distinguishing, making distinctions, projecting them onto the light. To not be aware of self, self must assume there is more appearance, more “world happening” on the other side of a wall, which is itself only an appearance. In truth, you never moved, you have never done anything. You make it look like you are, and believe it. Nothing is happening. The only thing you can not actually do, is not be you. Every detail and facet which makes it appear you are a person, can not be “trusted”, with one exception. Sensations. The sensations are in accordance with, always relaying the truth - that you are not a person. It’d be helpful, now that I think about it, to refer to them as Sensational Guidance. That is truly what they are.

@Angelite If you don’t mind me asking, did you have a religious up bringing?

All bananas are now clones of real bananas, and animals eat them by opening the opposite end.

Looks like your ring finger is a little standoffish, your pinky is feeling left out and bout ready to leave, your thumb is noticing all this transpiring, your index finger is uncomfortable with what’s going on, and your middle finger is just staying out of it altogether.

@LoveandPurpose If you took away everything people created with regards to hell, books, movies, special effects, stories,etc, etc, and took away ever having chose to view or hear it...what would you actually have remaining right now, with regards to ‘hell’?

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Realize that’s all there is.

If you forgot something on purpose you wouldn’t even know. You don’t have to derive anything to know you are you. You can create right now. Or not.

@Galyna I recently worked with a lady with a very deep, yet very subtle calling to the direct experience of the mystical...of Consciousness. She felt very strongly she needed to ‘get conscious’ of some regular life stuff prior to undertaking a deeper venture into Consciousness. She said she kept doing things (didn’t ask) which she doesn’t actually want to do, but habitually keeps doing. She “needed to get on top of that stuff”, and was perpetually frustrated that she wasn’t making progress. She expressed she was in a bit of a pickle of...more knowing of consciousness would help the habits, and, I need to square away the habits to have the deeper consciousness experience. I don’t know why, but I suggested when she noticed such a situation, to just intensely repeat “be conscious right now” over and over and over. To, in a sense, use the very same consciousness which is ‘calling her’, in a distinct direct immediate right now actionable manor to address the habit(s). Anyways, it “worked” to the tune she had a mystical experience while repeating the phrase. Go figure right. Weird.

Your paradigm from your current perspective is entirely backwards relative to the perspective / paradigm you’re asking about. Not in any you’re-at-fault-for-it way, not in the slightest bit. But it is, entirely backwards nonetheless. From the perspective you expressed here, you are a thing with consciousness, a thing which is questioning the notion it can experience “higher consciousness”. But you are not a thing. You are the Entire Consciousness, appearing limited to itself, an implication there is a “thing”, and believing you are that “thing” which is implicated. A “thing” does not have a property of consciousness. There is only consciousness. So there is no “your consciousness” which gets expanded, though that is an entirely accurate description of experience. Rather than an experience of expansion of a thing, consider there is experience of Consciousness unveiling to Itself, that it was never the “thing” it believed itself to be. No actual expansion occurs, only the deterioration of the belief you were ever a limited thing.

@Galyna Consider, you don’t actually sleep. It’s not something you could actually do. “Sleep”, could be made up, a belief. Believing you do, certainly plays a role in believing you are a person in a world. Compare your direct experience of sleep, with your direct experience of someone else sleeping. Notice they are nothing at all alike. You’re level of playing around might by infinite, while your level of actually sleeping might be 0. It’d be mindbendingly humorous to find you’ve been pulling off such an illusion, this entire “time”. New meaning (or no meaning) would arise for such notions as “You may say I’m a dreamer, but I’m not the only one”. New humors, too.

@FractalFlux Awesome. Thanks for taking the time. I think there might be something to the naked solo trip. A vulnerability perhaps, which seems to play a role. I hear you on the one creating the two. The simplicity is just insane isn’t it? “The ultimate nature is playful” . So very happy for you to realize that profound insight.

@laptophaver lol! Nice one.

@Preetom Just keep trying to be good enough. ??

@Natasha ?

@Preetom Loved the brilliance in your words in this thread. ?? Truly delightful.

Just the breath. Take all that content & all those identities out of the picture. It’s YOUR breath directly. Explore it. You’ve deeply assumed there is some point, or reason, or need, for breathing. That “answer” will come directly from the breath itself, content less, identity less, picture less.

@yellowschnee Definitely find a good psychoanalyst.