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@electroBeam Full of it is our only possible talking point. ? Life’s a single blank cue card. (And not even Lol)

@Justine Transcending meaning is the liberation to create a fulfilling meaningful life. Meaning was just other stuff love was creating anyways.

I agree. Very insightful on the explanations / comparisons of the ego.

@electroBeam ? Yes, jk of course. I agree. I was talking about understanding spiritual talent more specifically. It’s love, or you might say love’s. Comparison, measurement, scrutiny is none other as well. Measure on. ?? I would argue however, there’s no loop there as there’s no character there. The impression doesn’t loop.

@electroBeam Yes. Like if you watched a movie about not playing a role, that would be the role somebody was playing. Yet only to you. They actually aren’t there. Which of course would be obvious... if you were more spiritually talented.

@electroBeam Are you saying the person with the best techniques is most spiritually talented? ...and that duality of self & other is the scaffold for spirituality?

That’s a bit of an odd statement. The love you’re feeling is the love that Is. Death wise, no one has ever actually seen that death is bad or sad, only the resonance of their own perspective on their own belief. Loss can be terrible, but not death. Worthwhile distinction imo, like that of pain vs suffering, with regard to that terrible.

@ardacigin Awesome. Congrats and great work.

Spirit is love. You’re entire life is the developing of this talent. If you want to be spiritually talented, just love a whole bunch as often as possible with as little condition as possible. Get to know the most nuanced ‘places’ of your conscience, you’re liberated profoundly as you do. Dedicate some of your time, energy and or resources to this on behalf of others, and you might even experience some siddhi’s and more paranormal facets of healing & well being. In being the empty vessel of healing, you also experience healing (love). It is most worthwhile. The talent is the very love you already know, but may have not yet experienced viscerally in effortless ‘action’ , and in such subtly, intensity & experiential volume. Love can light your bones on fire with bliss, and rewire your dna, brain & mind. Have to ‘go see’ though. Only if you’re interested. It makes no difference at all wether you do or not. However, much understanding is unveiled, even the recognition of understanding itself. Something else you might consider or even readily notice...all comparisons are to a you, which there isn’t, so the comparison is counter productive to the actualizing. Rather than compare, dream big on making this place better somehow...more beautiful, more fun & less harsh, more equitable, etc. Fun to discuss & speculate, but thought I’d mention.

There isn’t a you and a universe, already...nor is there a you imaging a universe, already. (Not two).

Just a perspective for ya... If it’s noisy, it’s not subconscious. For a daily meditator, stillness is not temporary. The mind does not observe the stillness, the stillness appears as the mind.

@NorthNow Spend an hour first thing every morning sitting up straight, with attention on breathing from the stomach. The mind will quiet to silence, and for having allowed the activity of mind to settle, you will ‘hear’ God. All day everyday, awareness of seeing, hearing, breathing (stomach) and feeling. No activity of the body or mind will do, only undoing & non-doing will do. The intelligence just through that silence is the very same intelligence of nature. Also, do one or two or twenty things everyday just because love. Begin to notice the difference between motivation & motives of your character, and being in spirit or inspiration. Notice the effortlessness of the “doing” of the loving acts, be as aware as possible of the feeling of it. Get to know that ‘silent space’ and that inspirational effortlessness so well that the presence no longer appears to come and go. It will be seen clearly that all else is coming & going, apparently.

Don’t think it, do it.

Another great resource is a show called Beyond Belief. The newer version hosted by a George. There are not only episodes explaining this, but explaining very precisely how to do this.

@iceprincess Creativity is you, what is flowing, being you and this world. Creativity is more unblocked than culminated. Do you know what you want to write about? Dive into the experiencing of it, capture insights. This expands frame of reference for utilization of this creativity and results in already having the material for the writing. For creativity to flow through you in every facet of your life, inspect the you enough, and it is found there is only the flow of creativity.

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@seeking_brilliance Ohhhh! Gotcha.Nice!

@0bserver If you haven’t transcended death yet reincarnation won’t make sense. Self can’t think of itself, in an actuality sense, so it’s idea of it self is subject to the idea of death. These selves & death must be recognized as ideas, a recognition-less recognition which occurs upon the ‘experience’ of the actuality. ‘Experience’ infinity, rather than the thoughts about it. Nondual is never ‘solved’ via duality. The movie Wizard Of Oz exemplifies this nicely. Also, different yet same approach, go straight into desire, express it completely in your life. Spend more time visualizing, dreaming, fantasizing, meditating & actualizing vs thinking. In regard to the op, these are transcending suffering, and also reveal the ‘stuckness’ of finite (thinking).

@seeking_brilliance It ‘goes away’ like the empty sky ‘goes away’ when it has a few clouds in it. You never go away. All formless and appearing as this and whatnot.

@Leilani See if you can notice ‘giving this all up’ is a thought. Believing that thought perpetuates the “you” which would be giving “things” up. That perpetuates that the “you” is a thing which will “die”. That perpetuates that the infinite love is something other than this very moment. The veil is now, or not at all.

@Zec The nervous system isn’t actuality a solid thing which anything (thoughts, perspectives, feeling, etc) could be “integrated into”. It is a constantly in every ‘nanosecond’ refreshed reappearance of infinite love. Therefore letting go is the way. Peace, love & understanding fills in intrinsically, automatically, and infinitely as in, there is no actual limit or end to ‘loving filling the body’. Love always is already the body. We’re condition makers and holders of conditions, until we exercise & actualize potentiality, free agency, will, letting go. Might be a profound revelation, that integration is of the ego perspective. It’s the “I” which is “getting that integrated”. When really, it’s a pointing to what can be let go. Liberation. Notice the body tensing when some thoughts of old paradigm arise, let them go by relaxing the body. As you go, this requires willingness and open mindedness to let perspectives & thoughts which do not feel good to you, go. Not let go like playing around, still focusing on it, figuring it out...letting it go and it is actually let go, never picked up again, no longer exists in your experience. The body / nervous system will release, be careful not to avoid feeling or add the old thought narratives back on, feel into feeling. Only be interested in exploring the feeling, explore every nook & cranny of feeling, and use consciously breathing from the stomach to relax and do so from a more impartial observational / awareness standpoint. You’ll become aware of reactionary living by transcending it.

The knowing of the full truth is already the case, in the sense (literal as in sensation / feeling), it can not be thought, yet by Is always known by feeling, where the alignment or discord is always present, & ‘felt’. That Truth can be thought, is a rather sneaky thought in and of itself. You might be trying to cultivate and integrate what feeling is simply giving a nope to. If so, remove the labels thinking places upon feeling. Hanging labels upon truth does in a way, cover it, like labeling a mirage a ‘lake’ covers the actuality. This, for what’s it’s worth, is the actuality of what thought hijacks and dubs “becoming more conscious”. Consciousness can not become more consciousness, as consciousness is indeed infinite. There is only to open the gift, remove the finite layers we created so innocently. Happiness is only uncovered, never culminated. Though experiential happiness like fun, pleasure, excitement, enthusiasm, is wonderful, ‘it’s’ only actual reality is the very same truth, the oft labeled happiness.

@wwhy Have a ‘mystical experience’ of infinity. Infants (you) will never seem the same.

@Javfly33 ‘Body’ is a word you learned, a thought. Feeling is feeling. Sense of self is the experience of the claiming via believing thoughts, ‘my’ body, ‘my’ feelings, and or the projection of an assumption there are others who experience a ‘sense of self’, which is again the believing of thoughts and the claiming, perhaps more disguised by the projection.

No. It’s not. That’s a dualistic thought about what is nondual. Thinking describes a thinker of thought in action, which has never occurred.