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This explanation of no limitation employs many limitations. Infinite potentiality is not ‘all possible things’, but rather an ineffable ‘substance’ which is formless and can appear as any ‘thing’. In the self discovery, seeking, or path sense, this explanation is not expansive or clarifying, it is ironically, and unfortunately, limiting.

@Meditationdude Everyone is different in estimation indeed, but no Individual has consciousness, and therefore no individual can raise it. That consciousness is a product or output of a human is a finite human level belief about that which is appearing as the human & world. Consciousness does not have properties, like ‘raisability’. I understand the pointing phrasing of this, but your specifically asking about this because of the feeling of concern. The relief from that concern is the exact inverse of an understanding of consciousness as it relates to suffering. The feeling of concern is indicative of the misunderstanding, rather than an actuality or potential of having ‘too much’ consciousness. That is like worrying you will have too much love, peace of mind, and bliss. Consciousness is not a possession, or something a you has, but rather is the infinitude you actually are. An insight can be realized in the understanding of the profound difference in experience this implicates. Fully reversed in perspective and understanding, what you’re experiencing is revealed to be the sneakiness of thinking. By the claiming of infinity by the apparent finite mind, the illusory sense of the finite separate self is perpetuated & the veil is strengthened. What could be described to be experienced is the letting go of beliefs about ourself & world. In that sense consciousness could be said to be experienced as ‘filling in’, arising, or floating very much like a cork you didn’t know you were holding underwater, which, free of the ‘holding down’ of beliefs, simply floats as it always has and always will, whenever ‘we’ ‘let go’, or focus on perspectives that resonate with our being. Upon the actuality of that experience, and of the continued inspection, scrutiny & letting go of beliefs and self misunderstanding, I believe you will agree that this floating is very much like flying, and or again, effortlessness. So ultimately, thinking is not something, and is not then to be thought of as reliable or trustworthy. Having said all that, I believe you are now or will soon be recognizing the answer to your question is present and guiding via feeling. Above all thinking, ‘follow’ that gratitude & joy. It is not random, or coincidental that there is gratitude & joy. Because infinite can not know finite, there is only to let go of our misunderstandings & misperceptions, from having forgotten what we really are.

@Tistepiste It sounds like you are aware and becoming more aware that the ‘culprit’ so to speak is the current perspective. The issue seems to be that those perspectives in discord with feeling continue arising, and keep discoloring the present experience, and you are not sure how to resolve the aspect of the repetition of this. Something that worked well for me was sitting comfortably and relaxed with a pad of paper, and bringing each category of my life to mind. We can feel the vibration, or energy, of each category. For example, I might think of my wife & kids, and feel no discord. Then I might think of my work / job / career, and feel not discord. Then I might think friends, or the category of being social in general, and feel the arising feeling of discord. From that point the sector or category is revealed. Then, I would feel more into that category, like...”what is the way I learned to look at this category & myself in kind, which is no longer jiving, no longer serving me”...”what is the insight, the message, of this feeling of discord?”. This may sound ‘woo woo’, but it works. Most of these would reveal a perspective about myself & the world which was indicative of my past and or childhood, which I hadn’t seen yet because I had a deep belief that something was ‘just how reality, or life, is’. When you say the thoughts in discord feel as if they are in the stomach, this adds some solidification to that course of action. The sensation in the body is an apparent physicality, which is in essence a living insight of representation of what is going on in thought & emotion. For example, I had a similar feeling in my stomach. I found it to be linked, or kicked up, when I brought the category of work / career to mind. I reflected on my upbringing as to what perspective I am holding presently, that I learned innocently, but which is not jiving with feeling anymore. I found it to be the concept of pressure, in relegation to responsibility. I thought pressure & responsibility were indicative of the objective reality. I discovered that was only my perspective. I then realized that was not even my perspective, but, a perspective which I inherited in a sense from my dad. For him, work = stress. I realized the for him factor of that. I found that in the more literal physical sense, the stomach issue was being caused by me essentially trying to ‘digest’ what is not indicative of who we really are. The willingness to be aware of the feeling, in consideration my perspective was what was unaligned, was enough. It was very impactful to recontextualizing pressure, stress, tension, and responsibility, and the stomach issues went away altogether. You also mentioned tension in the heart area, and blockage, and the chakras, and I feel your intuition is very on point. In sitting and bringing the categories to mind, you might bring each person in your life to mind and see which relationship brings up the discord in feeling. Then consider why they were or are the way they are, from the perspective that they truly are actually doing their best. We all are. You might recognize the undesirable feeling that arises within you, as having a correlation to their behavior. That might give you insight to their suffering, which might bring understanding to why they behave, in matters of love, openness and expression, as they did or do. This in turn helps you to not only realize where you ‘got it from’, but also brings understanding & compassion to the stomach & heart experienced viscerally as healing. Rupert Spira has many videos that help us explore the feeling by going to it, and also the self or “I” which is hurt or in discomfort. This can be very powerful in releasing, grounding, or ‘reconnecting’. Abraham Hicks videos are also very insightful in this regard, but may give less attention to healing and understanding the past, than they do the metaphysical actuality of focus bringing more of whatever it is pointed at anyways, and creating what is desired. There are of course many teachers and methods, but I would consider that they all ultimately aim at brining understanding to the mind to the extent that emotional misunderstanding is released bodily, and understanding arises, or fills in. It is these emotional misunderstandings that we are in actuality labeling as “fear”. I would also look at and do a bit of reading on the emotional scale, as well as The Roby Body chart. The information and imagery of these alone can be insightful and stand to trigger connections and ah ha’s, if you will.

I experienced therapy and prescriptions as an attempt to resolve being in a similar situation in terms of emotion, understanding & clarity. Of course hindsight is always clearer, and no one can really tell you which way to go...but just one person’s findings...the therapy & scripts didn’t ‘work’ for me. They added side effects, and I intuitively knew they were impeding progress rather than being a productive or efficient contribution to resolving it. In hope it is useful or helpful for you, the therapists and psychiatrists I worked with did not seem to understand the bigger picture, the ‘emptying’ of emotional misunderstanding from the body, and the alignment of thought (specifically perspectives) & feeling being the resolve for emotional well being. This is difficult to do while experiencing emotional misunderstanding, and requires a certain ‘faith’ in letting go to realize the value, power, liberation, actuality & alignment of letting go. I found when I zoom into the distinction & choice you are faced with acutely, there is a line flirted with between bypassing, or numbing & perpetuating suppression and suffering with therapy & scripts...and bringing fourth the releases of emotion from the body, ultimately revealing the divinity of the body. In either case, in a sense, this ultimately culminates unknowing of & parting with, or at least the realization, that there is not a past. Yet when the past is none the less coloring, filtering or infringing on present experience & therefore future outlook & creation, addressing it is paramount to understanding it, ourselves and others. To ‘make a point’, therapy & more so prescriptions can be helpful to aid, but sometimes slow the releasing down, making the experience more fitting to the responsibilities and obligations of our day to day. You commented that your self help practices are impeded, so that is an indication the scripts might be beneficial to the bigger scheme of your life, if I am to assume those practices contribute beneficially to work, school, or generally feeling good for being productive. Yet, I hope you are realizing that everything you’re doing and have mentioned here is not other-than self help practices. You are helping & healing and transcending, this is it, so to speak. Where you’re at and what you’re doing could rightfully be said imo, to be the ‘real’ work. Thought I’d share that because it might shed light on a different perspective in consideration of the choice you’re thinking over. For some they flat out don’t work, for others they work brilliantly. Scripts didn’t work for me, but they worked well for some people I know closely. However, everyone I personally know who did go the route of scripts, and did benefit from them...found themselves in a place approximately one year later of having experienced much healing, and then were aware of a certain...”micro-disconnect”, or a pinch of numbing & slowing if you will, and they were inclined to slowly taper off. Having said all that, the ‘biggest picture’ I learned, the over arching theme, is turning pain into beauty & inspiration. Another way that could be framed, is a shift from past self to present and future self, in terms of aligned mindset, passion, and enthusiasm for living / creating. I would look for and utilize as many means of expression as you can. Really anything of emotional expression. Songwriting & singing, poetry, & trying new things I hadn’t experienced before worked for me, just to give some specific reference there.

@Galyna ? All of Leo’s videos are chalked full of nuggets imo, but man, that series is amoung the best. It’s like golden punches to the face. (In the good, insightful sense). Practically beats the devil right outta ya. lol. ?

@Meditationdude The breath truly is the breath of life in the metaphysical sense. Infused with intention and sentiment, the breath purifies the body of emotional misunderstanding which lies more surface level relative to intention. I agree, it is an amazing feeling. That you are not labeling this experience as feeling bad or negative as you purify yourself is an all too rare & uniquely delightful thing to hear. Reconnecting so to speak with the prana, chi, (whatever we call it) is an ideal time (if you haven’t) to extend intention & sentiment by blending it with ‘reality’ via a dream board. At the trajectory of your sentiment expressed here, as it is supposition to conception and therefore manifestation, you stand to realize profound effortlessness, synchronicity and a rather visceral intrinsic guidance. Good for you, Godspeed.

@VincentArogya Awesome. Congrats. That might explain a lot of what’s coming up. Take it easy on em.

@Galyna Inspiring thread. ??

@VincentArogya That might have something to do with it. From your own place, they can actually be rather enjoyable. Understanding & compassion relative to them is easier as well.

The two thoughts are really one experience. As you create financial independence you are focusing on what you are wanting, which is really how it is being created.

@VincentArogya Are you independent?

@Max1993 Really beautiful. ??

@Farnaby Yes indeed, for sure. That is the final duality we are all trying so hard to arrive at, awareness and scientific measurements. Congrats.

@RestWithinTheHeart Appearance.

@Farnaby Yes, beyond, prior to, etc...these are really just pointers that thinking will not do. There are no other consciousness states. There appears to be the thought that there are, but the thought “itself” is not even a consciousness state.

It’s not possible for you to trust you, or anything else. It is also not possible to bring your attention to awareness. It is also not possible that there is a truth of who you are. It is also not possible to identify with a feeling. It is not possible to trust direct experience. A never changing part is not possible. Some calling anything your true self, is also not possible.

The quoted portion denotes the addition of a narrative, of a past & individual experiencing the deja-vu. The pluralizing of deja-vu (in the title) denotes a separate subjective self passing through a separate objective time line in which separate occurrences happen to the separate subjective individual. But maybe this is the very message of the deja-vu, the resolve of the “confusion”.

It is. You’re bamboozling yourself into & out of the discord & alignment. Watch it happen, scrutinize what you were thinking about & how you were thinking. Think of the activities of your life like categories, and feel the discord or alignment as you think of them anytime. Generally, the discord reveals perspectives rooted in separation, and alignment from perspectives of unification, or unity. Many live their entire life with discord in categories like time, money, relationships, self, etc, never realizing the discord is with the perspective... or, between the bulb & light beam if you will, rather than between the bulb & the light on the wall (which seems separate). If trust is a consideration of direct experience, scrutinize who is trusting (or not), and who or what is being trusted (or not). Also, scrutinize the sensation as well, in regard to how it relates to trust. Listen to the sensation directly, rather than labeling it. You might think of that sensation as a hot coal, and then there is for you to notice which perspectives are the touching of the coal, and why. You might also think about who, in your life and or past, was and or is always touching their coal, and why / how they learned to, and why they keep doing so. Putting aside all doubts includes what anyone else says, as you can never know if what they say is true. If one is to see the truth it is because one looks for oneself beyond what is seen & heard. One can be plenty skeptical and amply scrutinize direct experience, without ever being cynical of individuals, by scrutinizing the direct experience of individuals.

@Johnny5 Make that sass your Quach, and laugh at the ridiculousness of trying. #4 seems credible.

@Javfly33 Just start saying Sasquatch instead of ‘ego’. That way you are lighthearted, laughing, and noticing it’s just a thought ‘too’. ??

...IS what is, IS ‘the now’...not an identification with it, not an entity incarnated. (Not two)

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@capriciousduck I’m not too familiar. Here’s a list of his books though. Very broad range, I would look them over and see if one appeals to you. In case you haven’t seen, there are quite a few videos of him on YouTube as well. Such a pleasure to listen to.

@Galyna We tend to frame synchronicity as scary & concerning, or exciting & thrilling. Dreamboard is good for this.

And before you know it you’re in a rabbit hole of Philosopher AI.