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@Javfly33 Hear what all of them are saying simultaneously.

That’s loa. Life = you.

What an insight actually is.

Yes of course. It’s again, another ‘both’ scenario. There already aren’t ‘two’, that’s a belief (a repeated thought). There is nothing “wrong”, nor “right” with that, as those are also just thoughts. You might say...I am pointing to that you are creating the WHOLE experience. Even not haven taken Leo’s LP course, I am easily rather absolutely confident in saying there is not a better LP course to be found on earth, and you should most definitely continue it, follow through and finish it. I would also suggest recommending it to every one who will hear you. I am also saying (not ‘instead’) make a dreamboard and this is going to bring ‘dimensions’ of realization in conjunction with all ‘other’ fronts. If that is not understandable...the tldr version is - make a dreamboard and finish the course. When you are challenged with these ‘this or that’ obstacles, instead see the sameness. But of course this is no more than opinion, suggestion...and possibly too gratuitous, but I can not ‘give’ you another perspective than ‘your’ perspective(s) as life, or reality, unfolds for you...but I am trying to the extent offering words and conveying the intention & sentiment behind them is found useful to you. Be mindful of your prior realization - you don’t need to know, have, or be anything beyond what you know, have are are, to proceed. It’s important to recognize a thought about something you need - is not this actual object or thing ‘out there’ which you don’t have. You totally have it...just recognize what you have, is a thought about something. That does not mean there is that something. It’s a thought. You do not need anything whatsoever to proceed. Matter of fact, ‘not proceeding’ is not an option. You’re proceeding in any and all cases. Consciously choosing, that’s what’s in question, and imo recognizing thoughts about stuff that isn’t even actual are just thoughts is most helpful. Guess what’s a really great way to cut through such ‘thoughts of nonexistent stuff’, and focusing on feeling, on what you want?

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“Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.” ― Rumi “Knock, And He'll open the door Vanish, And He'll make you shine like the sun Fall, And He'll raise you to the heavens Become nothing, And He'll turn you into everything.” ― Rumi

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@wk197 Meditation can’t truly be said to be hard, as it is not an act of effort, nor can meditation be measured in any way. Focusing on breathing and feeling for example, is not an act of effort. Focusing ahead of you, if you will, or on perception, is not an act of effort. Focus is effortlessness. What requires effort, and can indeed be hard, is keeping a story going which doesn’t resonate, and feels like a burden. Meditating will change how you interpret, experience, and act in the world, all effortlessly. Prior to the thoughts, is true equanimity. Meditating is The Well & The Being, of well being. People are free to choose, but there is not a source of unwell being. There is only one source. Those scary & unsettling thoughts are not resonating with their source. Therefore, we can at least know two things about their source. You are not ‘spooky’, and you are not ‘unsettling’. If you were, those thoughts would feel just fine. But they don’t feel just fine. They feel in such a way, that you desire to change this in your experience. The only logical non-course of inaction then, is meditation, the source of which is so on your side, that it too is not resonating with the spooky & unsettling thoughts. If you get bored, meditation reveals being in peace. If you get restless, meditation reveals being at rest. If you get scared, meditation reveals being creating.

@Dazgwny Takes many collapsing dualities to reconcile the universe, evolution, time, space, etc and Self, eternity, infinity, etc. The metadventure is the funnest imo. Quantum Mechanics is good for this. The info, yes, but the challenge and expansion it is to the mind much more so. Sooner or later it pops like a balloon that never was.

@LfcCharlie4 Awesome, as usual. ??

@Sorwyn Feelin the love already. ??

I love you. What part? What specific questions arise? That’d help me clarify. Imo the best time for the message is always. Of course, you’re not trying to offend anyone or argue, you’re just sharing the love that you are. ‘Helpful’ is subjectively defined by (in this case) your friend. Yet, who would argue with a statement like “my life, and your life, and this place can use all the love we can realize”. Questions (rather than statements) that come to mind for him might be...“Is there the possibility of an evidence which changes your perspective?”...”If so, what would that evidence be?” Likely, this leads to talking about direct experience. Then at least he has considered this, seeing that it is in his own hands, likely & hopefully in a deeper way which he never has before. Yes, common via psychedelics without proper foundation. What happens following realization is purification. What seems to happen can range from a giant mess of a life and finite mind...to a smoother and more fulfilling series of releases and endless insights. I don’t think it’s a mistake. Love is just crazy. I have a hunch your presence already says the message. The Buddha quote comes to mind, “If someone gives you a gift, which you refuse, to whom does the gift belong?” It works ‘both ways’. (You and friend) ♥️??

Make a dreamboard and they will inevitably both come to fruition and will be realized to be one in the same.

You could remember that you do. You’ve had times in your life where you felt absolutely amazing, and it was precisely due to the fundamentals, exactly what you mentioned there. Right now, you’re playing a role, similar to the guy in Hoosiers who was initially ‘too good’ for the fundamentals. It is what he really wants, and the suffering of suppressing that desire, which led him humbly back to participating in the fundamentals. You can choose to create it, to go in that direction, whenever you want. You can realize you’re on ‘team humans’ with the rest of us anytime. Your question contains within it the statement, that you currently, do not want to do the basics. That’s fine. Don’t beat up on yourself for it. It truly does not matter. Other humans will indeed continue to support you. Be comforted by this, again, don’t beat up on yourself. You can take the healing time you need, and see that you have desire to be part of something bigger than ‘yourself’. All in due time. Heal up, let negative self talk go (like what you said about yourself above). Go one inch at a time. Every morning, wether you actually intend to do any of the fundamentals or not, just say aloud “I can do it, I have the discipline, I have the will power, I have the drive, I will do the basics”. The turn around starts there, intimately at ‘home’, within you. Change the inner-monologue, the self talk, and the world does very literally begin to change right before your eyes. The key imo, for you, is when feeling begins to empty out, when the emotional misunderstandings and negative beliefs about yourself begin to come up & out - (no offense saying this to point to opportunity of healing & progress) you rather immediately not only jump to believing the arising thought story about ‘yourself’, but you spider web it into the biggest worst case scenario ‘my entire life’ picture you possibly can, and you reinforce negative false beliefs about yourself. This is indicative of self-refusal. As a personal example, I went through a self-refusal around introversion and being recluse a good while back. I didn’t realize I was using it as an excuse, and that that was the basis, or root of much misunderstanding emotions and drive. Once I accepted it, all that misunderstanding came up and out. I loved that I am that way, and therefore got to experience that love is not like the ‘things’ of the world, it is magical. Hard to explain, but nowadays, being introverted and recluse pairs perfectly with being social and extroverted. None of these describe me, they never actually did. I had pigeoned holed myself by the thinking the way I, in the personhood sense was, was “wrong”, that this was “something which is wrong with me”. Self-love and acceptance changes reality and how we interact with it. It is transcendent of stuff like “introverted or extroverted”, and any other dualities that might come to mind. Suffering is something you create. Suffering is not the default, which you ‘need’ to escape from. You create your own suffering with what you say and think of yourself. You do this now - or you don’t do this now. Even the thought story “hell of my own mind”, is a cover up which perpetuates the suppression & avoidance of feeling. There is not a ‘you’, a ‘hell’, and a ‘mind’ in direct experience, by which that statement could be true. It’s one thought, which arises, which you believe and share, in a victim mindset. (“I” am the victim of “my mind”). Holding negative beliefs about yourself, and suppressing & avoiding feeling, feels so bad - that you literally make up that story and blame a “my mind”, just to try to make sense of it. But ‘making sense’ simply means feeling. If you were to feel more, you would face the fact that what’s behind all of this, is your belief something’s wrong with you. Nothing’s wrong with you to begin with. I love you exactly as you are, and this is something you can do too. Judgement is a stickler, but it can be purified / let go. Feeling wise, there is an obviousness there which seems to go right over your head. If that were true you’d feel great. Notice your life is sustained, that is to say - notice in this very moment you are living - not because of your own efforts & independence, but because other people are taking care of you. Sort of a must in the single digit ages, but it gets old the older we get. No one will ever force you to appreciate anything per se, with the exception of reality experienced as suffering. If you don’t want to thank someone, express appreciation & gratitude for anything, you certainly don’t have to. But, it won’t feel good, because of who you really are ‘inside’ you might say. There is a somewhat (and more each day) defined criteria and distinction behind that particular diagnosis, and many varying degrees therein. That has been established by the medical profession / industry. If so and to what degree would be a measurement of adjacency to that diagnosis as it has so far been defined. So you would have to go to a doctor, and compare, to see if and to what extent you meet that diagnosis. I would only caution not to go down any thought paths of it being ‘something wrong with you’ or someone else. In my personal estimate so to speak, it is just another indication of the extent to which we truly are ‘all in this together’, as ‘no man is an island’, and no finite mind is in actuality individual.

@Tim R Shot in the dark here... If he were to self realize, purification of karma (or adversely / alternatively, a ‘new’ awareness ‘he’s’ carrying a ton of emotional resistance & denying it for the duration of ‘his’ lifetime) follows. Experientially, that’s no ‘small potatoes’ we’re talkin about, that’s ‘his’ life (to ‘him’). It’ll change everything in his entire life, and simultaneously it changes nothing because it’s what was already the case (no self, no lifetime to begin with). From ‘your’ or ‘my’ perspective, it might be a much welcomed perpetual delight of love, relief, release, healing and understanding...from his perspective it might be a total nightmare you’re hinting toward him unpacking. Can you honestly say you are in touch with that suffering he is experiencing, evidenced even by his consideration reality could just as well be Hate? ? Can you really ‘go back that far’ so to speak to actually share his experience / perspective / discord / suffering? I would argue that you can not. You can not unsee, unfeel, this love, and ‘get back there’. Which is why you’re wanting him to ‘know’ this love. So in a way, you’re saying ‘come on over here dude it’s unbelievably awesome!’... and he’s denying (himself) that. Anything come to mind, that might come to mind in his shoes, in his life, which he may not be ready to experience the purification of? There are countless examples, but to draw out an extreme example for communication, imagine Hitler’s purification of karma compared to a guy who say, basically worked hard at a gas station to provide for his family his whole life. I would imagine that Hitler would respond at least a hundred times in deflection of the truth being shared with him, as not to feel how ‘off the mark’ the actions of his life have been. Again, ?. Whereas gas station guy could ‘hear’ more readily, because he could just continue working as he has been, Hitler’s whole day to day is going to have to completely flip. Every thought, every relationship, every activity of his every day. The karma of “maybe I could’ve lived more to my potential, and loved more” is not quite the same as “oh my fucking God I murdered people”. In the ‘final analysis’ of course, there is no difference, but the purification of karma in getting there is quite experientially different. So, it’s possible that beneath the thinking & talking chatter, your friend does ‘hear’, but is not ready to ‘hear’. It’s good to stay mindful that one never actually knows what actual thinking is transpiring in another, or really, to the degree, if it actually is. Also of course, it’s possible I’m completely off. It just came to mind. If this is ‘on’ though, you could see that he is “keeping it up at the thinking level”, so that it does not encroach upon “the feeling level”, or his “my life”. I can appreciate the neo advaita approach-less approach, yet I can also appreciate and feel compassion for the suffering or ignore-ance, or, the complete dismissal of addressing the purification & karma. Jim Newman for example, hysterical, I laugh my head off every time. But if I was listening to him sitting next to Hitler, I might ‘laugh inside’ so to speak, because of understanding.

It’s a habit of self referential thinking. Notice when you are thinking about yourself, and think about what you are wanting to create, and why, instead. It’s a habit of judgement. On both accounts, notice you are making an arbitrary measurement and distinction which is not in your favor, and does not feel inspiring. You would have to isolate a specific segment to call the beginning and end, by which you could establish you ‘failed’, or ‘are doing enough or not’, or ‘are delusional or not’. Notice that you are imposing that view and do not have to. You could also say in recognizing that, that there will always be something next, you will never reach a ‘done’ point, and so you could never ultimately establish if you ‘failed’ or ‘succeeded’, or ‘did enough’ or ‘didn’t do enough’. This points back to the only point itself, which is life for the experiencing of life. That is the joy of being. Anything else is icing on a miracle. “Think Less ? Love More”.

Truly, you can be all these things and infinity more, which is precisely why you are appearing as this universe exactly as it is. There is even the potential to fully remember and be fully aware that you are. Imo, this is most worthwhile. This is no small feat however, as all conditions & identification with the body mind will be transcended. That is to say, you will experience the undoing of what you are presently forgetting you did. It can get crazy but again, I can’t recommend returning home to your true nature enough. For the time being, I would focus on positive statements as to why you want these things you do. I would weed out any motives, any desire which is really a desire of avoiding something for holding a perspective of fear. Be most articulate in stating in the form of positive vision & affirmation, as it makes all the difference. What you are focused on is being banned from the forum. If what you really desire is other-than participating on the forum, do not resist that desire. Perhaps it is a natural intuition that you want to focus on something else more so. Again, focus, positive vision & affirmation imo would serve you really well. It’s a direct experience ‘thing’, so you’d have to sincerely give it a go.

Revisiting your initial title, “Can Creativity By Itself Be A Life Purpose?” Yes, and that isn’t the same as “Can I Be Someone Else Who Is Creative?” If you want to understand reality at it’s deepest level, and can be lighthearted, curious, and genuinely interested...inspect direct experience until you unequivocally know exactly why you are not being Jimi Hendrix or Dr. House. It would be wasteful and limiting, imo. This is ‘accomplished’ by no longer believing thoughts Which do not resonate, like needing to be gifted or not, or needing to be left handed or not. Without these limiting beliefs, play guitar right handed, and start learning some of Jimi’s songs. You’re experience his essence as you do, and learn a lot. If you want to be a med student, take the first step, see what’s required for you to do. In a rudimentary way, you’re believing you’d have to already be something, or be doing something, to begin doing something. Notice no one is standing in your way. Most people, at least most people here, are rooting for you 100%. Then make them for the sake of making them, wether it’s initially income related or not. Again, you’re creating no matter what you do, you’re choosing. Denial of this is not transcendence of this. Dreamboard is a fun easy way to do these things you want to do. Start with meditation & detaching from thoughts which aren’t serving you, and learning how to play Jimi’s songs right handed. If what you really want is to make money, and to do so doing what you love most...using both to do neither isn’t going to accomplish either. Do either with your heart leading and you’ll inevitably end up doing both.

“But everything on my dream board would be a distraction from what’s above self transcendence, wouldn’t it? “ Well we’ve struck gold there. No. What you really want would not be a distraction from anything, it is The Point. The more you are expressing desire genuinely, aka what you really want, whatever that is for you, the more you are connecting directly through the feeling of desire, the source of which, is the love that you truly are, appearing as any thing or experience that you could ever want - plus - “you” are essentially ‘baked into’ this. If you literally do nothing, you are creating the experience of doing nothing. You can not get ‘out from behind’ creating, because you are the creator. Think about it this way...if there is God, Source...if there is Infinite Being...what it’s “doing”, is this - but it’d be “doing” “this”, be Being “this”. By being ‘you’! So by God man, be you to the absolute fullest extent you can dream up. You’re creating either way, because our creating is just the continuation of Being being this place, and us. You’re made of creativity, you experience and create preferences (effortlessly, intrinsically), and express and create. You’re designed perfectly for this. If for no other logical course - create the life you most want, because you’re creating by default anyways.

“But everything on my dream board would be a distraction from what’s above self transcendence, wouldn’t it?“ Well we’ve struck gold there. No. What you really want would not be a distraction from anything, it is The Point. The more you are expressing desire genuinely, aka what you really want, whatever that is for you, the more you are connecting directly through the feeling of desire, the source of which, is the love that you truly are, appearing as any thing or experience that you could ever want - plus - “you” are essentially ‘baked into’ this. If you literally do nothing, you are creating the experience of doing nothing. You can not get ‘out from behind’ creating, because you are the creator. Think about it this way...if there is God, Source...if there is Infinite Being...what it’s “doing”, is this - but it’d be “doing” “this”, be Being “this”. By being ‘you’! So by God man, be you to the absolute fullest extent you can dream up. You’re creating either way, because our creating is just the continuation of Being being this place, and us. You’re made of creativity, you experience and create preferences (effortlessly, intrinsically), and express and create. You’re designed perfectly for this. If for no other logical course - create the life you most want, because you’re creating by default anyways.

It is not possible that there is a loving way to ‘kill yourself’, for the very same reason these perspectives you are focused on do not feel good. It’s like saying “is there a loving way to kill love?”. Choose to love instead, which is to say, let the beliefs about yourself, the perspectives about yourself go - simply and plainly because of how they feel. You are love. You will never not be. The perspectives however, you can change. Even if you say you can’t, you’re choosing that perspective. So stop trying to be something you’re not. Stop trying to be what the thoughts are about. Stop trying to be some way you think other people think you should be. Just be you, love, and all is well. Some different perspectives.... ”I really fucked up”....I have really learned something profound here about the importance of aligning feeling & thinking from this particular experience. I see what suffering is. I see how I’ve been doing this to myself. It took a wake up situation like this, someone I really care about...but in seeing this, things can only get clearer and easier for me. It takes time, but I now see how I create my suffering. Apologies & forgiveness however, do not take time. I realize I can feel better right now, if I choose to. “I lost a good friend because I thought he didn’t care about me I had convinced myself he hated me” ....I learned that when I think on behalf of other people, I realize they have their own thoughts, and their own feelings, and I don’t need to think or feel for them, and they aren’t thinking or feeling for me. Going forward, this makes life a lot easier and lighter. This also, is, well, awesome. It’s more fun not knowing what other people are thinking. Spontaneous, interesting, exciting. I also realized how important it is not to convince myself of things that don’t even feel good, to me. If I do that again, I’ll be aware of it, and I’ll inspect why I’m doing it. I’ll uncover core beliefs, and in doing so, let them go, and that means I’ll be feeling better & better & better. “I have always struggled with this. I push people away because I feel so hated,.so unloved.”....I’ve been doing this, this focusing on perspectives which don’t feel good to me, for a long time. I am seeing more clearly that how I feel is the direct result of the perspective I am holding about myself. I am seeing that I project this onto others. It took a lot to get me to see that I’m doing this, but now I am positioned to consciously choose how I look at things, via how perspectives feel, and to let limiting beliefs about myself go. I won’t be afraid to feel anymore, and that is going to make all the difference. I’ll put feeling first, and thus I can not go wrong. “A lot happened in my childhood it really hurt growing up you guys.”....Now I’m starting to get what it means that I am “already on the path”. I’m getting a glimpse of what people mean when they talk about how we identify with the past, and that is how we hold limiting beliefs of who we are. My experiences don’t define who I am - I say who I am. I say this, now. I also learned the body seems to have stored up emotional misunderstanding, and I want to heal, and I want this body to heal. Just as I recognize that some perspectives don’t feel good - because - there is much love within me...I can also recognize emotional misunderstandings held in the body do not feel good - because they aren’t resonating with the love within me - and it only makes sense then that as I lighten up and let go of these perspectives which do not feel good, this love and source of all well being within me will flush the pain of misunderstanding and identifying out. I welcome it, and willingly allow it, as I am done creating suffering, and ready to heal and love. “Now I fear that feeling all of the time.“....It is becoming so clear to me that the perspective doesn’t feel good...and that I have been blaming and labelling feeling all along. It might take time, but I’m going to love feeling, and refrain from judging & labelling it. I will listen to it, like a student, and I will liberation in spirit as I do. I’m beginning to realize feeling has always been there for me - and because of a culture and environment where people did not recognize this within themself, I inadvertently took on their perspectives. But their perspectives suck. I now see how much they were suffering inside, and how much they really just want to be at peace with the love they truly are. They didn’t choose to be the student, to listen, and that is where they failed. I will not. I’ll listen, I won’t quit, and I won’t blame. I’ll heal, and in doing so, get to know this love intimately, and even intricately. I have a hunch this might lead to wanting to know a whole lot about this love within me. “Sometimes I think the most loving thing to do would be to kill myself. I keep hurting "others" and myself.”....Now I”m really starting to see how this would be the least loving thing I could possibly do. I’m realizing that is indicative of the environment I grew up in. I’m starting to see how that led me to develop those perspectives which never felt good in the first place. I’m not going to continue in that direction, as frankly, it sucks. I’m realizing that I’ve got some healing and love work ahead of me, but I can do it. I can feel how awesome that will be, right now, in how awesome it feels to realize that I can indeed do this. I think I’m done with the hurting. I think I’ve looking to escape feeling, and feeling was loving me the whole time, which is why perspectives like this one do not feel good. I don’t wanna hurt anymore, and I don’t wanna hurt anyone else with my words or actions anymore. It takes all of us Hyruga, we can’t do it without you. We need ya on team love my man. In many ways this world is astray, it’s a mess. But it’s us doing it. This is what we’re all waking up to, or from. We all gotta change somethings, individually & together. We are all in that boat with you, you are in that boat with everyone. There are lots of resources, practices, and help available. Take it easy on yourself, and utilize what’s available to you, and be a part of this whole, this love, this inherent intention of well being, healing, and loving. We love you, and we do indeed really actually need you. It takes every single one of us.

@billiesimon If I need something, I am recreating the experience of an “I” which “needs”, and that is the lens upon all else. You can’t possibly have something you believe you need. If you already have it, you’re not believing you need it. If I want something, and have no need for it, I experience it. You = the present moment. Moment = the present. It’s all quite FUBU.

Those are beliefs, and only beliefs. The beliefs do not point to some ‘other thing’ or actuality, but are the resistance. A belief is a repeated thought. “Thought” is “itself” not ‘some separate thing’. Thought is creation, appearance. In direct experience, thought appears, and this experience appeared. You create resistance, by repeating thoughts which don’t even feel good. You do this because you deeply assume there is something to know, and that that is needed. But “it” is you, and so “it” can not be needed, or known. You aren’t finite, you’re infinite. You aren’t aware, you’re awareness. You aren’t intelligent, you’re intelligence. You aren’t conscious, you’re consciousness. You aren’t loving, you’re love. To ‘get lost’ in yourself, claim those as ‘yours’, and measure yourself and others with it. That will ‘keep “you” stuck’ in relativity, and indirectly establish you are separate from ‘it’. Yet, without that belief of a you, “the measurer“, “the comparer”, none of the content of the op is possible to experience.

If there is resistance to the truth, then that resistance must be belief(s). Make sense? If it does, you’ve just outline the hamster wheel of beliefs; states, ego, and death. As you previously mentioned, you’re feeling resistance without psychedelics. But you fill that ‘gap’ with psychedelics. What if there weren’t any? What if you never heard of them? I’m not suggesting you do or don’t use them, I’m suggesting you see how you’re psychologically using them as a crutch when not on them. You could consider reversing the relationship, since you’re making it up in each moment anyways, like taking a trip as a reward for kicking ass in life, rather than thinking of them as what will enable you to kick ass in life. You could inquire into people who are awake and never took them to balance your perspectives with a bit of ‘reality’ in that regard. The main point here being not to continue the beliefs / duality of tripping vs sober. Shapes and distinctions are thoughts not perception. Perception can’t be thought, just as thought can’t be percieved. Of course a “me” is going to need a lot of work. The “me” isn’t ‘there’ without the story supporting it, because the “me” is only the story. That you’re doing what you want, is easier than believing it’s because of need. What’s “it”? I think if you read this, and then read your op again, you’ll see it’s all Mind in every case.

Appreciation. Gratitude. Momentum is actual. Appreciate. Try em, you’ll find they actually do. Everyone has ‘evidence in their reality’ which matches perfectly what thoughts they believe and focus on. The fundamentals of daily morning meditation, utilizing a dreamboard, eating clean, exercising, and choosing better feeling thoughts & perspectives is still liberation. The choice is still, and always in every moment, yours.