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@trenton Would it be more simple, rather than trying to find the right thoughts about your self, to try to find the self the thoughts are about?

@Gianna You already have ideas. Enlightenment is seeing that they aren’t true...seeing what they literally are, what they’re ‘made of’.

I think you got down to the belief there. Might take a minute to ‘spot’ it.

@ivankiss ?? ?

@Ray Go for the direct experience. Quite shocking, the way one indeed does essentially ‘exclude’ the other. In hindsight it’ll be thought & perception, and not even.

The more you experience the impulse or reaction, and meet it with relaxation, breathing through it, the less the reaction is a reaction, the less it occurs just like any other subject matter. This can be rough, but in not-doing and witnessing, thoughts will be noticed that weren’t before, and those thoughts are then seen as the suffering rather than the sensation in and of itself. Keep the body in mind.

@Someone here It all seems like the thoughts you’re focusing on and believing. While it may seem like the way to liberate from causality and reactionary experiencing is to figure it out, to think more...because the duality is only in thoughts, the opposite ‘direction’ of letting thoughts come and go without believing them is the way. Even the thoughts are spontaneously appearing.

@Striving for more

@Rishabh R Practice expressing how you’re feeling emotionally.

@rd5555 If you want to move, move. If you want to stay, hang out when you want, focus on what you want to in your room when you want to. Have your cake and eat it too. Wondering what’s urgent about this, and what the anxiety’s about. Thinking it’s too much concern for other people’s thoughts. No?

Would it be valuable to you to drop the habit of valuing?

No.

Stop with this childish game playing and dig deep. Ideas of you won’t do, and bypassing is for sexual preference, not the truth. Hangs out in bushes, waits for miracle....

@Podie45 You took the meds to ‘solve’ that you were ignoring well being. Talk to your doctor about weening off the meds as slowly as is possible. Over as many months as possible would be ideal. Today, right now, choose well being. Feel the shift in orientation - call that relief alignment. If you don’t feel that relief - let the presently held belief, which is in opposition to it, go. Humble to it. Not it to you. Sacrifice literally everything else, all activities & beliefs which are in discord (you feel it) with well being. Careful not to claim you can’t feel....while you’re paramount concern, is how you feel. You’re feeling alright, absolutely. Feel the truth of yourself... You are patient. You are kind. You do not envy. You are not boastful. You do not degrade, diminish, or dishonor others. You are not self seeking, you are giving, and loving. You do not rejoice in thoughts of discord, but in truth. You are always hopeful, you always persevere. You never fail. All knowledge will pass away, but consciousness, silence, you -will eternally remain. Turn pain into beauty, by allowing the fetters of untruths about you to naturally fall away. Choose to align perspective, with feeling. Pick a tool. Start expressing. Start understanding the emotions you’re experiencing. Blame me. Hate me. That is a good start. Don’t settle there though, go all the way up the scale. Empty the cup, which is filled with unwanted. There is nothing you can do, think or believe, which could make it such that you are not infinitely loved. Stop trying. Stop denying. It’s people like you they fear you know. People that get up. Get up.

What’s a past & present self? Explain that to me like I don’t have one, and want to understand your beliefs.

@Vibroverse Dig a little deeper.

There are not two. Who or what could identify as awareness... and identity...is /are thoughts awareness is aware of too. Where is “things”? Where is that direct experience?

@Loving Radiance Gotta be careful with this not believing thoughts about you stuff, it’s been known to drive people completely happy.

Nope. What’s one more thought?

Easy, send flowers with a card, with forgiveness and an apology.

?? ”I know I want a relationship for selfish reasons”...is a belief about, yourself. Imagine if you were believing the same thing, but about someone else... “I know Jim wants a relationship for selfish reasons”. Reframing the thought about someone else, it’s easy to see that you don’t really know this about Jim, you believe this about Jim. You’re “stuck”, because you claim you know this about you. The Truth sets you free - you don’t know anything about you. You are you. Let the “I know” part go completely, and there is just honesty - “I want...”. The “you” that the belief is believed to be about... is a belief! What is aware of the arising thoughts, ideas, beliefs? You! You don’t know you want a relationship for selfish reasons...you believe you are selfish. That feels “off” because there are not two of you. ? You are neither selfish nor selfless.... those are thoughts. You’re the awareness of the thoughts. It is much, much easier to recognize the feeling of the discord and say, “ok, that thought about me does not feel good...what’s a thought that feels better?”....than it is to create more beliefs to justify why you feel as you do...such as “serious issues”, “hate”, “need someone else”, “satisfy my self image”, “accepting myself”, etc. Keep it simple. “That didn’t feel good....what does feel good?” There’s never going to be “something wrong with you”. That’s never going to happen. If you want to, you can believe thoughts that there is...but you’re the one believing the thoughts. That one can also meditate, etc. This might help with the shift, the reorientation.

Just take the ‘you’ out.

If you created her and she is made of the same as you, what is it you ultimately want? Give her that.

Your friend’s as existent & nonexistent as you & everyone & everything. If you’re going the mode route, casually shift the focus on breathing from the stomach. After a while there’s no more thought, yet everything just keeps aright on happnin apparently. Instead of thought sorting for truth in the literal ‘which thoughts’ are true sense, feel the truth of any thought.