Spiral

I would stay away from brutal stuff, that’s not healthy for you since it involves sexuality. If say the girl is dominant and teasing or whatever that’s fine. If the guy is tied up an whipped a little sure but I think the line goes there. Animated neckbreaking or strangling to a degree that he/she passes out/dies is too much. A problem with dominant females is that it promotes PE if done poorly. Although I do advice you stay away from porn in general.

1. Before you engage in social interaction and social events, pick a goal. It can be to have fun for instance. 2. If it’s a “friendly” conversation try taking topics about the nearby area. Yesterday I was at a party and I saw guy making another girl uncomfortable so me and her friends in a joking manner made up an escape plan. 3. Breath and be relaxed, being nervous is just gonna make it more difficult. If your at a party it’s better to talk to someone that’s not that fun rather than not talking to anyone. Going from alone to a new person is more difficult then going form person to person.

@XYZ Cuddles really are the best

@Aakash Vijayan Be authentic, if you get friendzoned your probably “nice” in a unattractive way.

@billiesimon Come to think of it I don’t really have a word for a promiscuous guy (bachelor?). Player also has a similar meaning and so does womaniser. It’s basically assumed in at least in northern Europe that if your not taken your would at least want some kind of sexual experiences regularly.

When there's nothing wrong with that, go out and have fun. I meant: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fuckboy

Noting wrong with being sexually active but being a fuckboy is a bit unnecessary and unethical. Just be sexual instead of trying to using romance to get the girl.

@kieranperez Well I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree then.

@kieranperez Well would you want relationship advice from someone who’s very unsuccessful? Worse case scenario you’ll get into a worse position then you were originally. They’ll give you bad advice in other words. I think it’s more effective to take advice from someone who faced a issue i do but overcame it. Peterson seems less happy and satisfied with life than me, his advice therefor to has to taken with a grain of salt even if it’s scientific. Leo is not this way so I don’t have a problem taking advice and from him

I don’t get a happy vibe from Peterson whatsoever, this makes me reluctant to take advice from him. I do own his book, but it feel unnecessary long so I haven’t read or applied most of it.

It’s understandably painful and difficult at first, but give it some time and try to be thankful for the new opportunities that now can arise.

Change is hard and takes a lot of work and effort. Most don’t succeed so let’s not pretend it’s easy but it’s possible.

I have a few shit tests, verify whether or not she “kiss and tell”. Ask her about details about some guy she have been with that she knows you know. Ask her to lend you a small amount because you forgot your wallet(not in the first few dates). Ask her about her friends, family and “enemies”. Let her talk about her ex to see whether or not she is introspective. Look at her previous relationships, did all of them last 3-ish months? Get your ass out.

@Mikael89 You can change those things. I was once completely socially inept, shy, insecure and what not. Now that was that a painful and maybe not really worth process sure, but at least it’s possible to change.

Human life is worthless. Both collectively and individually. So is worthless the same as worthless? I suppose. A single person is completely irrelevant from a large scale perspective. In the very end did they matter? No.

I’m a bit conflicted and I’m not familiar with the results it had in the US but in Sweden it’s became really big. Now a lot of people became exposed most guilty, some not so much. On the one hand it’s good that the issue became highlighted and that people who misbehave faced proper legal ramifications. But on the other a lot of people who arguably didn’t do much maybe som guy lightly touched a girls butt 2 years ago also got outed and faced social ramifications that were in my opinion was a bit unjustified. We even had people kill themself due to the social and career ramifications. One guy was later discovered to be innocent for instance. The Swedish media companies also took a blow, due to cover ups and for writing articles without evidence and so on and so forth. Perhaps avoiding names could be preferable next time unless you are talking to the police.

@TheBeachBionic Well you can get to know him first, use a condom and so on. Newbies can be slow to go for sex so that can be why you feel like they don’t want to, it can be beneficial to imply that you want to.

What a minute is that Shin?

I’m the other way around, I almost exclusively hang out with girls. Although I can sympathise with having a not so nurturing/caring mother. I’ve noticed that getting really wasted with a guy can be enjoyable and feels more natural. Maybe you could meet some girls at a bar while out with your guy friends.

@TheBeachBionic You might need to make the first move but generally all girls can get laid assuming you have right “equipment”. Dating apps and so on are great.

@bejapuskas I would hate a lonely life. Although being single is alright in my option. You don’t need a partner to be happy, but you’ll probably won’t be happy as long as you feel lonely. Don’t try to cure lonely with a partner do so with friends and/or family.

These “stereotypical examples of the transitions” are very orange. Looking at things in terms of what is effective or not is as orange is it’s gets alongside individual freedoms.

Children, intimacy, love and being relieved from social stigma when you get older. Most other benefits are things you can technically get from friendships. Misc Financial benefits from living with someone. You might enjoy dating. Tax cuts from being married in certain countries. Safer and easier sex. Assuming you don’t have a friend+.

I would stay out of the MGTOW community but going solo and focusing on yourself is very beneficial.

The book: Self-Made Man: One Woman's Year Disguised as a Man. As the name implies it’s a book about men from the female perspective, it’s a self biography. I while I haven’t read it myself, it intrigued me and surely will give you some perspective on things like pickup. There is a shorter documentary about it, that’s why I know the book. It’s not really about pickup and you might feel that’s “complainly” and MRA/MGTOW although I think It can give you some insights.