How to be wise

@Leo Gura

Dude, enough with your offensive comments.

19. Started personal development when I was 16, but I wasted a lot of time in theory rather than practice. Corrected that last year.

@Serotoninluv Of course we are talking about in personal development. I doubt anybody would use 5-MeO recreationally. As for therapeutic uses, there are far better techniques for that. Why waste psychedelics on something you can easily do drug-free.

@Serotoninluv Where else do psychedelics belong other than in spirituality.

@outlandish Everything that I know about psychedelics came from Actualized.org. And no, I haven’t taken them before. In a way that is good because I can speak about them in a detached way. If I had a psychedelic experience, I would be elated by it and would be defending psychedelics. The only reason I think that it’s ineffective is because Leo has been using them for two years and is still not enlightened. I’m sure you could learn a lot from it, but if there is no change to your mind structure, it’s a waste of time. Focus instead on some very strong techniques available on Leo’s booklist.

@Recursoinominado The book ‘Loving What Is’ is a must, I’m afraid.

@FredFred Why not? Reality happens? You don’t question why the sun exists, or why we exist, so why should you question ‘why’ certain phenomena happens. It happened because it did. That’s it. Btw quantum mechanics will not take you to the truth. Ever. The mind can never take you to the truth. Give up on that shit and turn inward.

@EugeneTheSage What worked for me was, keep trying different techniques until you find that one that works really well for you. I found mine, and my results are simply over the roof in just four months! Leo’s booklist is a great place to find those huge range of techniques. Until you find ‘that one technique’ keep on trying different ones. Once you find it, stop all other techniques and go very deep on that one. Research all you can on the author of that technique and follow them deeply. Don’t become a dabbler.

@Ampresus Lol why would it be too much for a teen. I’m a teen myself. Leo’s booklist changed my life. You will probably never stumble over those books ever. The techniques that they bring are miraculous.

@outlandish Look at Leo’s progress. He’s been taking LSD and 5-MeO for more than two years. He’s been doing 5 years of meditation and self-inquiry and he’s not even detached from his body, let alone full enlightenment. In my opinion the psychedelics got in the way. You need to pick one technique and go through with it to the end. Dabbling will not help.

@Thesingularity Leo’s booklist!

@Aaron k Just remember that ‘healing ourselves’ must include healing our desire to save this Earth. All concepts must go, including any will to ‘help people’. It doesn’t mean that you will stop helping people, but you will be detached only because you realised that this planet doesn’t need saving. It doesn’t even exist! Notice that all problems are not in ‘actuality’ but only exist in your mind as concepts. So helping people becomes more of a hobby than a mission. You can take it easy! ☕️

@Anton Rogachevski Just keep in mind that LSD will not give you any lasting spiritual growth. So just what are you aiming for with psychedelics. A good time? An interesting experience? Make sure you’re not escaping the hard work of self inquiry and turning inwards.

@Ampresus I would recommend that you sample around for different techniques on emotional mastery before you make up your mind. Check out Leo’s booklist for that. I think that Leo is very different to most of us because he had a good upbringing and very little problems. Most of us are here because we have a lot of problems in our lives. I would suggest you find authors and teachers who have expertise in the arena of your problems. Leo’s booklist is a great place to start.

@danton Before you start to chase after ideal dreams, it’s very important to fix any problems you have in your life first. That’s what it means to build a foundation. Check out Leo’s booklist for practical information on how to solve any part of your life.

@yasaidasai 1) Why would intelligence video negate no-free will? 3) Journal contemplation is not very useful in my opinion. Try The Work of Byron Katie. It is working really well for me! 4) Yes your idea of a hand is real, but it isn’t your hand, it’s just an image of a hand. Your real hand is what you see when you look at it! Thoughts and ideas exist, but don’t confuse them with the ‘outer world’. Thoughts and ideas are just random images and sounds in your mind. They have no connection with the outer world.

@GeoLura Unfortunately I’m not available.

@GeoLura What’s your real name?

Before I answer those questions we will make one assumption which you must accept. That is: Reality is everything that you are experiencing directly right now with your five senses. Everything else is your thoughts about the situation and is hence not true. Unfortunately this claim can only be proven through your direct experience. But if you accept this, then good. Here we go: 1) Notice that the “I” you are talking about is not a direct experience, because you can’t sense it out there. You have a picture in your mind of this “I”. This picture is not true, it’s just a picture. Notice that beyond the images in your mind, ‘out there’ there is no “I”. 2) Why do you have to assume that ‘somebody’ must be doing this. Notice that that itself is just a thought, a mental image which is not true. Without your thoughts about it, reality is just happening. 3) Right now you are not really acting the way that you want to act, because of your fears. Once all that fear is dropped, you will act the way that you truly want to act. The spontaneous, authentic movement which might make you look strange to outsiders, but you don’t care anymore. I don’t agree with Leo that seeing the truth is enough. You need to let go of your conditioning, which is a lot more work. 4) Again, why do you assume that somebody that somebody must be doing this. Notice that this is just an idea. ‘Out there’ does not demand a ‘controller’ of the body. 5) Again, why do you assume that you must feel it. That is just imagination. Try to position your mind in the outside world. Is ‘out there’ saying that you must feel it. ‘Out there’ is not demanding anything. It just is. Those assumptions are beng created by your thoughts. Just remember that those answers will only make sense if you practice. I understand that traditional self-inquiry is extremely difficult. In that case, just do The Work of Byron Katie. It’s working very well for me. You don’t have to worry about ‘finding’ enlightenment. Just do the process and you will be guaranteed to reach the end.

@GeoLura I have to say it’s quite the coincidence.

@Torkys how did you find @Not Leo Gura they left the forum way before you arrived.

@GeoLura What’s up with the name geo lura? Is that your real name? Or do you admire Leo that much?

@Hafiz Well, just remember that their poetry wasn’t in English. It definitely would have sounded a lot better in their respective languages as that was the one they intended on. I notice that with the Quran as well. It will always sound better in Arabic rather than in any other language. Same to Ryokan.

So much for the don’t-know mind. Also, Sadhguru hates using the word God. Plenty of times he told people that God doesn’t exist. He also says that questioning never ends. So why can’t you question this God even though you experienced him. Are you incapable of that? I understand that it was a profound mystical experience, but can you still not question that? I’m not saying falsify it, but just keep your mind open. Case closed sounds like a pretty bad idea.