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This video deserves its own thread. Thank you @Richard Alpert for sharing it! In this talk Martin tells us how he (as a "practitioner") helped people (clients) to have a profound experience while taking 5-MeO-DMT. In his case there always was a practitioner-client relationship, but I think this could also be effective as collaborative work, where we "pull" each other higher and higher. If anyone is interested around Upper Austria, I would be happy to try this.

:)) Yep, @Azrael, now I know what a breakthrough is. Forget all the bs I said before. Yes, it does make a lasting impression. I am back on Earth now, but I don't think I can ever forget the understanding I just had. Thank you for the motivation!

The very first time I started with 20 mg (vaporized). Less than that just seemed to be too little. It was also the first time trying my scale, so I thought that my scale was malfunctioning. Man, that trip humbled me. When I woke up, I was lying on my bed in fetal position just feeling "it's too much, it's too much, it's too much...". So yes, I think I had a breakthrough, but I don't remember anything from the peak of the trip. Since then, I only tried smaller doses, around 10 mg. The good thing about vaporizing is that you can have two peaks, by smoking also the leftover from the pipe immediately after you come back from the first peak. And it's funny, because the second peak is also as surprising as the first one. You have just come back from the experience half a minute ago, but when you go the second time, you remember that it's the same experience you just had, but you couldn't imagine, that it is that deep. This is why I think that I can't recall the peak of the experience by listening to beats. I can recall the sensory perceptions: feeling my body becoming vapor and the feeling that I exist without the body. But I don't trick myself into thinking that I can recall the peak. Because I know, that the peak surprises me every time with how deep it is. Last time I had a "MeO hangover" the next day. You can call it a lasting impression. I woke up in the morning shaking and I felt like I was on MeO while sleeping. I couldn't concentrate on my tasks until afternoon because my chest was full of energy, and I felt like I will start shaking if I ask the question "Am I aware?" But to be sincere, I don't really know what you mean, when you say "breakthrough". Maybe next time I will try the 20 mg again, let's see what it does to me now.

I can help you. Send me a private message if any of you is interested.

Same with I-Doser. @Azrael Have you tried listening to HoloSync WHILE on the trip? My thinking is that it could help the brain to recall the memory of the experience next time when you listen to the beats.

The TL;DR answer: Bentinho's understanding is waaay deeper than it seems. ===================================================== The long version: Bentinho, at first, doesn't seem to have a deep understanding. My first impression was that he was not an enlightened teacher. His personality is not like Rupert Spira's personality. And if you have seen some videos of Spira, you know that Spira mostly speaks about awareness. Bentinho is different. In different teachings Bentinho speaks about different things, for example some law of attraction stuff, the nature of time and space and different dimensions, and all kinds of stuff. On the Trinfinity Academy he offers two paths. The path of Self-Realization and the path of Self-Empowerment. I have chosen the path of Self-Realization, because this one is about enlightenment, non-duality, infinity. In the beginning, he talks about Presence and the Here and Now. At first it was a little boring to me. Not because of him, but because I already knew about this topic from Eckhart Tolle books. But from the middle of the Enlightenment I, Part 2 it was really powerful for me. He teaches you how to dissolve your person (your ego) in Presence. Everything started to loose its seriousness. I felt like I was lucid dreaming all the time. But when you are dreaming, you can still feel like the victim of the dream sometimes. But then he teaches you, that you are not a victim. The imagined role of the victim is still part of the dream. What you are deep down cannot be hurt by the dream, by "reality". The Awareness that you are is invulnerable. You are not a thing, so you cannot be harmed by a thing. I don't know how to describe this feeling, but you can experience it yourself if you do the Self-Realization courses. But these are only the Awareness teachings. I am most interested in the Infinity teachings which is after the Awareness lessons. The Infinity "experience" is beyond even awareness. About 5-MeO and Infinity: I think I have had the Infinity "experience" on my 5-MeO trips, but I couldn't bring back anything. I don't remember the peaks of the trips. I remember that it is every time the same "experience", but I am surprised every time I get there, because I just can't imagine the feeling when I am down on Earth. I hope that Bentinho will teach me to go to Infinity with meditation, but I am not there yet, I am still on the Awareness part. And yes, of course it seems too good to be true. I mean, he wants to have an enlightened civilization by 2035! This is unimaginable. :)) But if I look back one ore two months, I don't know... My way of seeing life was completely different. Maybe it's all just brain washing, who knows? So I recommend to see it for yourself. Good luck! If you have more questions, I am happy to answer. Maybe because my person is happy to show off. :))

Now I can recreate this "feeling the energy" experience with binaural beats. Has any of you tried it?

That course is indescribable. It really offers what it promises: Freedom. I am not even at the half of the course, but now Barna (the person) can have the worst day possible, and I still feel free, and I still love life. I don't know if it makes any sense... So my short answer is: Yes, I recommend the course. Although I made a pause, because now I'm experimenting with 5-MeO and binaural beats. But I will definitely continue the course in the near future. Maybe today evening.

The legends says, Atlantean people "breathed" through their pineal gland, that's how they stopped ageing. I guess now at least I know where this legend is coming from. But I think I was still "high" when I wrote this post. When I had this experience I felt like the whole existence was just me breathing through my forehead. This is why I felt that this was so important.

@abrakamowse I've already tried that. And if you try that long enough, you realize, that the separation from your thoughts is as much an illusion as the identification with them. I feel like I am in a dream. Everything is made out of me. And I am aware of me (sensations, perceptions, including thoughts and emotions). And every identification and separation is still inside the dream. So if I am aware of that, then I am lucid dreaming. But I am not satisfied with that. I want to wake up. And I can't imagine a faster way then being scared to death. I think it's exactly what 5-meo does, but I will try it, just to be sure.

@cetus56 thank you! My problem is, that I don't feel what I have to let go of. I need a nightmare, so that I can let go of my life. So that's what I am searching for right now. Do you have any tips how can I get scared to death in a safe environment?

Yes, that's what I've found and listened to last night, but it didn't have much effect on me, that's why I asked you, after trying that. But I guess I will have to try it a couple more times. Thank you!

@All_Around_Me What 936Hz beats did you use? Can you send me the link or the file please? And exactly what kind of meditation exercise did you do? I want to create an ego death with meditation before I do it with mushrooms.

When I ask myself if I am aware, the answer is "yes", because I go to my perceptions and I am aware of the sensory experiences (seeing, hearing, etc.) But when I ask if I am self-aware, I have nowhere to go... At this question I am stuck in the self-query meditation.

@cetus56 Thank you for your comment. It's a nice belief. I am more interested in how to experience this. Thank you for the help to all of you. Meanwhile I found a guided meditation which answered my original question: @Leo Gura Thank you for your new video, I really liked this one.

@Leo Gura if you can access the infinite with these methods, does it mean that you are enlightened?

Thank you for the answers to each one of you, they really cleared up some things. (Or not, we will see! ) I feel that Rupert Spira's "Am I aware?" question points to the same direction as my "Am I self-aware?" question. @WelcometoReality thank you for the video. So I'm gonna go with Rupert's question from now on. Now I think I am stuck in the same place, because when I ask Rupert's "Am I aware?" question, I cannot catch myself stepping out of experiencing before I return with the answer "yes". I think this "yes" comes from outside of experiencing, but how can I go there? Or which part of me is able to go there? @Leo Gura what do you think about the origin of this "yes" answer? Is it coming from the Absolute? Besides the 5-Meo, have you found an other way to access the Infinite? I am a university student, so right now this substance is really expensive for me. But I will try it as soon as I start to work.

So now, I guess, I can silence my mind with the question regarding the self-awareness. But what is the next thing I can realize? Has anybody gone through this?

@Bizarre That sounds amazing! Who is your teacher and how can I learn from him? For how long have you been learning from him? And why aren't you free yet? (You don't have to answer the last question )

As I see, most of you don't want to hear about "quick ways for getting enlightened". You don't even want to consider the existence of such things. Maybe it's because you are happy with your personalities. But as you can see, my person is unbearable.

I am just provoking you because I want you to show me that the perspective that I am presenting here is incorrect. Sorry for making you defensive. I thought the "threshold" is much higher on this forum. :-)

This was a beautiful reasoning, you must have a really clever mind, and I am not even being completely sarcastic here. :-) But have you actually thought about what can you "gain" and what can you loose?

@cetus56 There are a lot of nice philosophies about the absolute, but a few "enlightened teachers" talk about a "black hole experience" which changed their life. I just want the black hole, don't you all?

@vizual The teacher has to convince you, that enlightenment is possible. How can a discipline "achieve" enlightenment, if he doesn't even believe that it's possible?

@Maximilian The academy is free now. @NTOgen That method is a little expensive for me, and the recognition, as I understand, not repeatable without the substance. I don't want depend on a substance, but I will definitely try that too.