Mellowmarsh

Perfect! 🙂

Enlightenment can mean different things to different minds. I think of enlightenment as being the state you were in when lying in your mothers womb. But soon after birth you formed an identity to your name and that’s when enlightenment turned into the separate self of ego. To recognise enlightenment is to think backwards to the state before you were identified with your name, enlightenment is indestructible, it’s you, even as you are identified with ego self, it’s still you. Nothing then ever achieved enlightenment. It’s all nothing appearing as everything.

I don’t think thoughts are in the brain in the same context electricity isn’t in a lightbulb. And yet a lightbulb won’t illuminate until electricity makes contact with the bulb. I think thoughts are free flowing everywhere at once and only become things when the brain tunes into them. Nobody owns a single thought, or has originated a single thought of their own, I think they’re all borrowed, as everybody is aware of the exact same thoughts, since absolutely every thing known owes it’s source to thought. Thoughts then must be some infinite field that is everywhere at once, they are neither in nor outside of any body because a body is a thought thing, that’s everything and none locatable. . Sounds weird I know. This is just an idea of mine, I intuitively think thoughts are an infinite field that has no exact location, and I’m not claiming this to be accurately true, I mean, it’s just an Idea but could be totally wrong,

@UnbornTao Okay.

Yes. I agree.

Yes, informed by their ego who pretends to be enlightened. The Trip dissolves the ego, but just like any trip, the trip comes to an end, the return to the ego. It's a two way return ticket. 😲As above, so below.

That's a good idea kieranperez . Once you realise you don't exist it automatically follows that other you's don't either. So you let them be, and not even be, as there's no one to be, there's just pure being. Not ascending, not descending, just simply being.

Aye! It's♾️with an untwistable twist.

Do you mean it’s not a single player game? 😉

Just as we can be conscious of pain. We can be conscious of death too, can you shake the idea that we are conscious of death. What I mean by conscious of death is the appearance, disappearance, and reappearance of the sense of self. Notice that both the sense of self and the sense of pain arise and fall, and there’s something aware of this arising and falling that never arises and falls? There’s something that isn’t even born that can die, and that we can be conscious of that something.

Surly though intelligent infinity would first have needed to KNOW the concepts “misalignment” and “mistake” before there’s any recognition that neither concept could ever exist for real?

Yes I understand that. 👍 The weight is lifted when I consider there’s just indifferent impersonal “suffering happening” compared to “I am suffering “ Awakening doesn’t necessarily mean suffering ends though. Even an awakened one can experience suffering. Anyone who is conscious of knowing is able to reflect. So although trauma grounds itself deep within the mind/body mechanism, we can recognise that we can starve it of any more attention. Or, we can trauma bond with our own body. It doesn’t matter, it’s all just happening so there’s no need to repress or avoid, rather just allow and integrate, by surrender and to fully accept that nothing that is happening is ever personal. To recognise fully that I’m not my thoughts or mind, I am behind, Yes, and knowing the difference certainly lightens the burden when knowing you are conscious of all your projections and therefore the only one responsible for them.

Death is a concept known that knows nothing. You are a concept known in this conception that knows nothing. You are both everything and nothing 'knowing yourself' infinitely for eternity.

There’s nothing wrong with believing or beliefs. When humans are agreeing with each other’s theories they are in belief that these theories are true. Belief belongs to the dream of separation. And the dream is all that can be known. Nonduality is still a belief, it’s the belief that all theories have no credible basis in reality, and that reality is basically unknowable. Belief changes everything to something, even while it’s actually nothing.

Solipsism is a description nothing is describing. Solipsism is simply nothing being everything. There are myriads of ways to describe the ways of nothingness. And they’re all identical. Same yet different.