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The other day a small awakening occurred, I was able to see how reality was literally all me. I didn’t go far enough to see how I was creating reality or enter a void or anything like that but here are some key takeaways from this experience. - If other kills this body, other dies too - Unconscious is imagined. pay close attention. Your eyes don’t close when you go to sleep (unless you already have them closed). Pay close attention to how reality can dissolve without closing your eyes, bringing you to unconsciousness, which I now understand to be imagined. You never “go” unconscious you imagine yourself to be unconscious or unaware. - There is a “flow” to life that I don’t quite understand how to enter completely, but in this moment, putting ego aside, there is was a flow to life, everything happening without my doing. My phone went off as I was in this state and there was a “flow” about it that I just can’t explain. I don’t understand this fully. Seeing how I’m creating reality will bring this all together, if I am truly creating a reality. I now must figure out the proper questioning to bring about the question of how I am creating. I’m finding that the question has to be genuine. Meaning, one can’t just ask “who am I” (from my experience). One has to get to that question in a genuine way. Also had to go back to square one recently. I used to take truth as a matter of fact. As in, the truth always exist. It does, but as soon as one starts speaking the truth, it becomes a falsehood, creating a duality. So the truth can never be unraveled (spoken) otherwise it becomes false. Example: if I say there is nothing that exist. Well that is true, except as soon as I say it, the truth exists. Therefore nothing is existing would be the truth, in this example, until it is spoken of.

I was thinking about meaning lately as I do on and off for the past four years of doing contemplations. A very helpful and obvious insight came to me this morning. Thought I’d share just in case anyone thinks life has no meaning. So let’s take something smaller like sports. Your team is in the superbowl. For you it means excitement and entertainment and if they end up winning you also get happiness and a sense of being superior somehow to fans of other teams. In the end it means nothing really, but for a short amount of time it has meaning to you. Now let’s take a much bigger (in a relative way). Let’s use war. War can give a huge amount of meaning to both the winning and losing side. In the end even whoever wins will cease to be and be conquered by another eventually. So on the end war does not matter. Now here was the insight. Life has meaning because just like how your human life has a start, so does meaning. So of course at some point the meaning will end. Meaning is required to make another meaning. All meaning has a start, so therefore it has an end. At the same time meaning always exists to the conceptual mind it just changed form to another meaning.

*I am not here to argue. I am here to see where I went wrong in this contemplation* If reality is infinite then all possibilities exist. It must be possible, then, to comprehend the absolute with intellect. If one cannot comprehend Absolute Truth within their intellect then all possibilities do not exist. Unless of course, one were to say that infinity is the possibility of infinite possibilities. But if everything is within the same absolute reality then there is no such thing as impossibilities in any “limited” reality other than the believed limitations. So within this current reality that I am experiencing i as a human can fly. But a limitation is that in this reality humans cannot fly. That would be a believed limitation. So likewise, in this current reality it is a believed limitation that one cannot intellectually comprehend the Absolute. Infinite possibilities suggest that it can be done.

ESV as mentioned is nice but if you want a more literal translation look into NASB. The NET is also another lesser known translation with commentary to the translation. no translation is perfect so it’s best to use multiple when doing studies.

How does one have the caring aspect with unbiased love? seems from my experience one cannot love absolutely without having an uncaring about them. Caring requires a bias. not arguing just genuinely trying to understand how absolute love could have a caring to it without it being biased (finite love). It stumps me

It does. Faith = fides, which is Latin root. The meaning of the two words do not change however. When studying words one has to go deep. The Bible is the example here, any bible you pick up just scroll the New Testament and you’ll find the word “faith”. The NT however was written mostly in Greek so one must use the Greek word for faith here. Most people when they talk of faith especially when they use it in the context of the OP they mean it in the form of a Christian understanding - which is usually wrong. “Oh you just gotta have faith, just gotta believe”. People use these two words as if they mean the same thing and they don’t. Belief comes before faith, that is the point I’m trying to make here.

I often read what you write when I see you post in threads or create your own. They are usually above me at this point. This resonates with me, however, and has me contemplating about it. Never thought about it like that.

@Jenkins Not sure if this will be helpful to you: Faith is not the same as belief. faith = pistis (Greek) = trust, have confidence. believe = peitho (Greek) = to be persuaded. Faith comes once you are persuaded.

I’m not sure this is the forum for this so this will probably get locked. I will say this though, after being very analytical with the Bible for 12 years and looking for some kind of solid evidence that would lead towards proving it is true it eventually lead me to Truth. Christianity is not true, but Jesus tells you how to find Truth.

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If God is no-thing then what would it have to destroy? Destruction is for the finite.

From what I’ve heard it’s just confirmations from people who haven’t actually seen them so far. Even this guy didn’t specifically say he saw them, only interviewed with people who did. I think this will be bigger when the public actually sees one.

What is actual is Absolute Truth and nothing more. What I’m experiencing right now is Absolute Truth. Anything else is imaginary. If I believe someone is having a different experience (which they are) that is imaginary. If someone tells me they experience differently then the Absolute Truth is them telling me they are experiencing differently. Everything I experience right now is Absolute Truth, so I can say that my experience is fully me - Truth. Awakening is imaginary and there is only this here, whatever I am experiencing. The entire experience of every sense, felt emotion, and thought is Absolute Truth. Can there be something more? No that is imaginary. Even if I experience a state that is more or less, that would be Absolute Truth only then. Becoming nothing to become everything, if I ever experience that, is imaginary now and is only Absolute Truth when that is experienced. I guess the question I want most answered is how Truth developed imagination. How do I even contemplate that without imagining?

Does using a word like ground or task 1 imply a starting point? I’m not arguing at all just trying to get a better understanding of words and what words I can use to help all of this resonate better for myself. I appreciate the helpful responses I’ve been getting. Even words like “void” or when someone says become nothing to become everything seems to imply a starting point, which there cannot be if Truth is eternal.

It’s funny in a way because I already answered that in my last contemplation that wrote when I said Truth is eternal. Don’t know how I didn’t put that together. so then collapsing somehow has to be different than ending.

I became a parent about three years ago. I am not the perfect parent so take this for what it is. it is not beneficial for everyone to have babies. Only have one if you want one when the timing is right. you have to be financially and mentally ready. Be ready to support your other half as that is just as challenging as raising a newborn at times. Your other half must be on the same page as you. know that your child will be selfish and have no expectations and also expect nothing in return, not even a lasting relationship. What separates is the willingness and wanting to be a parent for yourself only and willing to love and also willing to let go. parenting can be rewarding, but the rewards are not a reason to want to be a parent. All egos are selfish. You have to ask yourself if this is how you want to be selfish, because you’re only doing this for you.

I have been lurking this forum since mid 2020 really and signed up on this account a few months ago. I mainly came here after discovering that Truth exists. No an awakening or anything, but just a YouTube video that really hit home for me that Truth cannot not exist. I mainly stay on the spirituality forums but thought it was more appropriate to put this here. Sorry if this is still the wrong place. I mainly just read threads, I only have two threads myself and never respond to any threads due to me not being “awake” or having a no dual experience I feel as if I don’t know enough to contribute. I recently signed up for therapy and have my first appointment this week, figure I should start working on some things I’m not so good at - the biggest thing would be communication and patience. I don’t want to be medicated though as when I was on Prozac it did absolutely nothing for me but make my anxiety worse. That’s actually gone away a lot now through my own self doing. I don’t have time to invest time into really doing mushrooms and lsd to really be on a track to how Leo teaches either, as my entire days are filled with stimulation and doing things for others: I rarely have free time. Even this thread is cut short due to being interrupted I want to start posting more, I feel maybe it would be good to start commenting on threads in some way.

*something I’ve been working on, hopefully I’m doing contemplation correctly * When I search for the eternal, it can’t be something I find today or tomorrow, or something I have found. It has to be something that has already been here. If this eternity is all present because of the oneness nature of it, then it can’t be discovered. It has to be something that has been there but has been overlooked or unnoticed. It can only be remembered. How do I know there is something eternal? Because Truth is. Truth has to have always existed because even if there were nothing in existence that would be the truth, therefore Truth exist. Am I assuming eternity has a oneness nature to it? No, because everything is connected and it’s obvious to see. Whether the Big Bang or a Creator God or a simulation or a dream it would all be one when you get down to it. So Truth, as we call it is eternal, but does it describe what is eternal? No, but what is eternal is Truth. Anything that has a beginning is not eternal. Imagination is not eternal. Nor thoughts, nor awareness, nor awakeness, nor wisdom, nor knowledge, nor understanding. I imagine my reality but whatever I imagine is not the eternal Truth. Everything is imagined, in fact, and it is not eternal. So everything that is not eternal is imagined. Even if it is actual in front of this human body I see out of, it is imagined. Science, which is also imagined, even says everything happens in the brain. Nothing that exists is eternal but is noneternal in its form. Everything is eternal it just changes form. Everything contains this quality of Truth because it is within reality. Reality is within Truth. Whatever Truth is, it is in everything, and even knowing Truth is not controlling thoughts, and imagining and manifesting experience. Knowing Truth does not mean you will have your life together and being successful in life does not require knowledge of Truth. Eternity is infinite and that would mean Truth is infinite as well. And Infinite would be infinitely infinite due to it being infinite. So the Eternal Truth would be infinite but also indistinguishable because there can only be Truth. However, being infinitely infinite the vastness would make the indistinguishable Truth seem distinguishable from a finite mind inside of infinite Truth. Infinite and eternal seems to be something that describes Truth. There cannot be a starting point to Truth if it is Eternal but there also can be if it is infinite. *still in progress*

One time I used a well renown book for an essay while I was in college on a topic completely unrelated to anything we talk about here. The topic, while for a class, also was a topic I loved to study at that time. I posted the entire essay on a forum and and few members corrected a part of my essay I got from that book and after doing research it turns out the book was wrong and they were right! This particular thing I got wrong was something I had no knowledge of due to to it being a subtopic that I really didn’t dive into or read about until then. Not making excuses at all, I still read. That has set in a bad way with me though. Especially when one realizes books are written by people who have biases and their own agendas. There’s always criticism of another person for whatever book so I take things as more of an opinion than fact which is why sometimes it may be better to do videos of what multiple “experts” are saying to get a clearer understanding on a certain subject within a subject. For instance in nonduality, for example, I’ve read Jed McKennas “The Damndest Thing” and I’m sure there’s some people here that disagree with his position. When I have to do my own research on a book I give them the same grain of salt I do to any other form of information.

Thank you, sometimes I wonder if I’m contemplating or just ranting essentially lol. I’m still thinking about this statement. It says a lot. The statement implies a duality (ego=fish/Truth=water). A fish can’t live without water.

I used to watch Leo’s videos back in 20/21 all the time but while on a factory line, so I only got to take in little of the information of what he was actually saying. Believe it or not, I had more time at a factory then I do now. The video that helped me the most was his video on what is actual. The last video I watched of his was about 6 months ago or more now and I remember him saying that if you’re not doing psychedelics be prepared for him to leave you in the dust. I’ll comment more on this forum when time allows, giving my thoughts and making sure it can make sense. I also may give details of personal stuff about my story this far via threads and see how that goes. Thank you for your welcoming. I feel that, I just don’t want to post anything or lead anyone down a certain way without knowing anything myself. Especially mainly staying in the enlightenment sub forum, commenting seems silly when I’ve never even had a no dual experience. I may not know anything more than I do now even after the experience

Thank you for the responses. I'll follow such advice and see what happens.

My first ever experience with psychedelics. Wife was my sitter and she had me take two tabs. She had me also smoke THC wax with it. Some nausea, lots of energy in the body. I was able to "step out" from my vision and things got clearer. Everything was as if it's made from light and just shines. Hologram-like. it was as if what I was looking at was being created by light, looked as if it was hollow, and just had a brilliance about it that I don't see with sober vision. It was hard to keep this type of vision though. At times I was the moment or experience. I had the feeling that me being in the moment was me being the actual moment, if that makes sense. Thoughts "ran" the whole time. My monkey mind (or voice in my head) never changed. I still was the observer. Next day lots of fatigue and brain fog. Going to do another soon in a day or two without wax or sitter and I'll be more isolated to observe for this type of work better, and then I'm not sure when I'll have an opportunity to experiment with this again. I obviously want to get the most out of this final dose I have. Any tips? Should I try to keep a notebook while I'm tripping?

Hi all, long time reader, won't post much as I am unqualified to really say much here about this stuff, I'm looking for understanding about past. So, I was thinking about fear and survival, realizing you can't survive without fear. I then went to thinking really every fear is a belief, as it hasn't happened yet. So then, in order to test to see if a fear is true, I would have to experiment. For example, say if I believe that if I don't eat I'll lose weight. It starts as belief until I test the theory. I don't eat, and I see I lose weight. However, if I'm to be open to the past is just my imagination, then I don't know if it really happened. You could say within this dream the past is real, but then when I'm trying to forget my past to awaken the same would imply. Even when someone like Mooji says forget everything and then he keeps talking, my mind always thinks something "I understand what your saying, language was learned in my past, so how can I forget everything?" I realized lately that I'm completely lost in this work and am not any closer than when I started. I used to reduce to Truth is all that exist, but it even seems like even Truth is a concept. I hope this post makes a bit of sense.