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Many vegans will consume products that greatly reduce androgen sensitivity and/or the conversion of testosterone into much more androgenic hormones (DHT, then androsterone, androstenedione…). These products are Tea (especially green), polyunsaturated fats, lauric acid (coconut oil), certain edible seeds such as pumpkin seeds, brown rice, certain nuts (apart from fats)… So even though they may have normal and sometimes even high testosterone levels, they may become more effeminate in their behavior, way of thinking and appearance over time. The effect is all the more dramatic on children and especially adolescents where a high level of DHT and downstream hormones is essential for the. masculinization. Most of the vegan boy kids I see on YouTube look like chicks.

@Enlightement @Thought Art Weird. For me it has always been pure chaos/nihilism. Not mean, but meaningless. Even 4 HO MET which was supposed to be a nice enough tryptamine was actually more serious/deep to me. I don't have that with other tryptamines. Maybe too much sensitivity to the dopaminergic agonism of LSD and that skews the trip. I dunno.

You forget to specify that the sardines and the pork are only one ingredient, possibly salt. Men are not herbivores, no one wants to eat beans and brown rice, this is incredibly boring especially if your calorie demands are high, plus it gives you gas, possibly poorer cognition due to endotoxins etc. So you're obviously going to cheat by making "bean and oatmeal patties" armored in spices that vaguely resemble meat to make it more edible. With baked potatoes, because obviously you don't like the stuffy starchy texture of potatoes and baking them in the oven allows you to pass it all off because the taste of the thin cooked layer due to the reaction of mayard on your potatoes reminds you of the unami taste of animal proteins. A little ketchup and you're ready to eat then post on actualized.org that veganism is awesome, like the sjw "supremeyingyang" above you who supposedly literally blocked me for politely feeding my own topic, because he didn't like my questions. -> Stop lying to yourself

Just because something improves LDL cholesterol markers doesn't mean it's healthy. 1) Your vegetable oils are already largely rancid (oxidized) when they are sold in supermarkets, even olive oil rich in oleic acid and therefore supposed to be more resistant to oxidation is easily oxidized. They are simply not products that can be bottled for a long time and you will smell it anyway with a bitter dirty taste. 2) You can't deny that eating high amounts of polyunsaturated fat is modern. Even if you subscribe to the vegan thesis that humans are starch eaters you are automatically in favor of the oxidation of saturated fats because the fats created from glucose are overwhelmingly long chain saturated fats and oleic acid (omega 9). Muscles at rest consume a lot of fat and these fats are preferentially saturated 3) Polyunsaturated fats are estrogenic and carcinogenic. https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/the-carcinogenic-and-estrogenic-effects-of-pufa.22048/ You can see ray peat's other works.

why no fruit ?

I always want to jerk off on LSD.

Sorry I'm not awake yet, but if you believe in solipsism why are you asking people on this forum questions when they don't exist. Or do you think that in another dimension god dreams of them and that ultimately it comes down to the same thing? something like that ? + tomorrow I have 300ug of lsd waiting for me normally, I'll think about it

Lol, I regularly play with my hormones and am regularly over 1200ng/dl of testosterone. I'm not at all more aggressive unless my e2 is out of control. What is true, however, is that testosterone can make you meaner, not by making you more aggressive or angry (because androgens tend to calm you down) but by making you more permissive. The more testosterone you have, the less guilt you have in your actions and have an "I do what I want" mentality. You won't want to be vegan, you won't want to be part of a charity, you won't want to follow a religion, you won't want to be orthorexic, you won't want to welcome migrants to your country and be kind to criminals, you will not want to be prevented from using and selling drugs, you will not want to be prohibited from being homosexual or part of a social minority etc etc etc. It's the hormone of libertarians if you will.

Testosterone does not increase aggression, it just makes you more confident and therefore likely to assert your anger/displeasure on an ad hoc basis. Testosterone also increases the release of cothecholamine so you can be more impulsive. Otherwise testosterone and androgens actually make you more relaxed and sociable, the sometimes observable association between testosterone and aggression comes from testosterone converting to estrogen (particularly estradiol), which is actually the cause of increasing aggression AND manic libido by increasing the signaling/release of serotonin, histamine, and other neurotransmitters involved in this type of behavior.

Paris is a very expensive shit hole, ethnically replaced by Africans, and sometimes dirty. There is also regularly a huge traffic jam at rush hour if you live in the outskirts or even outside the Ile de France. If you come to France, go to cities like Bordeaux or Strasbourg, or even better in the provinces (Alps, Périgords, Gers, Pyrenees-Orientales (not Perpignan, it's a shit hole!) etc).

You say nonsense, I literally spent two decades in France (all my existence in fact) and I have never heard of orgies, as in all countries there must be some but in an extremely marginal way. And there are also no "frog soups" there are restaurants, sometimes, that offer frog legs, usually cooked with butter and air like snails. Do you have a problem with this. And there is no hint of Nazism in Germany, it's just in your head. And the French are actually probably more conservative than the Germans, on average.

I may have misunderstood your answer, but I meant romantic in the philosophical (and artistic) sense of the term. "Idealist if you will" Nihilists do not commit suicide, they are idealists in cognitive dissonance who do. This idea of suicidal nihilists in the collective unconscious comes from a sociological bias, the majority are (even unconsciously) idealists, both by attavism and by cultural background, and are ultimately confronted with nihilist ideas only in troubled situations see dramatic. You are nihilistic if you embrace, accept, this vision of life and of the world. Although obviously the worldview is more complicated and subtle than these terms.

I'd rather be a nihilist than a romantic, which induces a form of idealism.

What do you mean by "death is imaginary"? Saw it from Leo and other people. What will happen when I'm old and my body is going to fail, my brain is going to malfunction, etc. This question has been asked several times but I haven't seen a clear answer.

You don't have to answer me on this topic, no one has to answer me. I'm not a spammer so I'm not getting any replies I'll stop and that's it. I just ask, in a polite and simple way, to have it explained to me why my nihilistic "ideas" are wrong, but all I get in return seems fuzzy and irrational, and if I dig I get surprisingly hostile reactions or calls for silence, whether here, at the university, etc.

Atypical things attract atypical people

So it's also "selfish", the purpose is not "animal welfare" but to feel good. The difference being that if an average person will take more pleasure in eating animals, while you, because of your guilt, will rather take more pleasure in depriving yourself of this consumption and feeling proudly virtuous. No ? That's what I meant, I may have expressed myself badly, I'm not an English speaker. It's true that you can be too sensitive to kill an animal and eat it for environmental and genetic reasons. But suddenly it's not "ethics", it's just that you can't, it's a limitation that comes down to hardware (your mirror neurons, balance of neurotransmitters...) in the same way as a quadriplegic is not "ethical" if he cannot do the same thing. Do you think, if you actually act out of empathy, you are more "ethical" than someone who simply has less empathy? You haven't really answered, why do you absolutely want to minimize your impact on animals if it ultimately has no repercussions on your life?

why ? i don't understand.

Why ? What will this change in your life? You don't want to be hit because it's "immoral", you don't want to be hit because it bores you. But you're not that animal, you're you, so what's the problem with killing an animal to eat it since you don't feel its pain and you're not afraid of being punished by a superior entity? There is no double measurement. Besides, do you pay so much attention to animals, including humans, in other sectors other than the consumption of animal flesh? Do you pay attention to where you buy your exotic fruits (annanas, bananas, dates, certain nuts...) which often exploit precarious Third World workers or even children? Are you panicking at the idea that thousands of small animals still end up literally squashed in cereal monocultures? Are you careful not to take a phone so the CPU was not manufactured in foxconn, qualcomm or other factories known for the number of employees who died by suicide?

What is your "ethics" based on if it has no bearing on your life? If you are not religious then who decides on ethics? where is it written? in the clouds?

Are you a woman or a man? The only reason that would push me to cheat is sex, and it's precisely because I don't have a big libido that I don't consider it. + why are you talking about pornography?

More than ketamine ?

No, there is the whole nuance. I mean that men from the south of france (and from southern europe as a rule) had less problems committing actions punishable by law and considered by a certain number of people to be "immoral", including deceiving his wife. Cheating on your wife is not "moral", the French are not polygamous, it's just that I observe that the French and even more from other European countries around the Mediterranean attach importance to respect for the government and cultic norms ("morale") in a much more conditional way. I don't understand why cheating makes me bad, because I don't hurt my wife, especially obviously if she doesn't know about it (logic of omerta, indeed). I said I was trolling in the sense that I was having fun teasing you, but my question is sincere. 1) Trying to hurt me will be the last thing you do in your life. 2) More seriously, why are you so interested in what I could possibly do and which concerns only my private life?

So what is the point of such considerations? Why not kill (at least indirectly through purchase) any animal you choose to eat?

@Devin @Something Funny @something_else lmao, I don't even have a big libido and I don't necessarily "want to cheat". I'm just defending a pragmatic and vain worldview, and trolling a little along the way. It is also in this kind of discussion that I realize cultural differences, I come from the south of France and the majority of people I have met have a similar vision. The biggest clashes I've had are actually on the internet, against people from northern/central Europe, or Anglo-Saxon countries with a much more romantic vision. This sentence seems incredibly strange to me